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Post by ltrain38 on Jan 15, 2014 21:26:04 GMT -5
We can get UMass up there if things break our way. Nothing about their performance of late scares me.
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Post by sweat83 on Jan 15, 2014 21:38:13 GMT -5
I know we haven't hit the meat of our schedule yet, but can we go 8-5 the rest of the way in A-10 play?
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 15, 2014 23:29:58 GMT -5
#16 Massachusetts 3-0 #24 Saint Louis 3-0 La Salle 3-0 George Washington 2-1 Saint Joseph's 2-1 Dayton 1-1 VCU 1-1 Richmond 1-1 St. Bonaventure 1-2 Duquesne 1-2 Rhode Island 0-3 Fordham 0-3 George Mason 0-3
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 18, 2014 17:03:04 GMT -5
Duquesne up on VCU at the half after URI beat George Mason in OT earlier. Crazy conference play continues
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Post by coachd on Jan 19, 2014 10:31:32 GMT -5
Pomeroy ratings have us at 75 just behind the Bonnie's and hawks. 9 A10 teams in the top 75 is impressive.
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Post by vasalos on Jan 19, 2014 11:22:06 GMT -5
La Salle and St. Joe's are officially among the first 12 out of the NCAA tournament. Dayton's weakness is leaving the door open. It's there for the taking. My updated bracket: wp.me/p3lXz3-bR
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Post by stlexplorer on Jan 19, 2014 11:32:50 GMT -5
La Salle and St. Joe's are officially among the first 12 out of the NCAA tournament. Dayton's weakness is leaving the door open. It's there for the taking. My updated bracket: wp.me/p3lXz3-bRYou're a temptress vasalos
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Post by durenduren on Jan 19, 2014 11:34:00 GMT -5
La Salle and St. Joe's are officially among the first 12 out of the NCAA tournament. Dayton's weakness is leaving the door open. It's there for the taking. My updated bracket: wp.me/p3lXz3-bRYou're a temptress vasalos He couldn't resist... Fuel on the fire.
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Post by vasalos on Jan 19, 2014 11:59:35 GMT -5
I have a reputation to protect...
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Post by ltrain38 on Jan 22, 2014 19:59:29 GMT -5
Duquesne is holding a slight lead over SLU at halftime, 36-34. If we're concerned with our RPI (which may be a bit premature, especially if we lose tonight), we should be pulling for an upset (also premature, it's only two points at halftime) because we play the Dukes twice.
Also, Dayton down 9 at home to VCU. They seem to be on track for the usual surprisingly strong OOC performance, followed by a long string of losses in the league that push them well off the bubble.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 22, 2014 20:50:31 GMT -5
UMass has been living on the edge lately. It may finally burn them.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 22, 2014 21:03:01 GMT -5
Richmond takes down UMass 58-55.
SLU holds on against Duquesne by 4.
Joe's beat URI to go to 3-1 in the A-10.
VCU is killing Dayton.
Fordham-Mason is close with 3 minutes to go.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 22, 2014 21:05:32 GMT -5
Fordham beats Mason for their first A-10 win. MAson down to 0-5.
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Post by cpico on Jan 23, 2014 7:03:09 GMT -5
I know we haven't hit the meat of our schedule yet, but can we go 8-5 the rest of the way in A-10 play? Well, after last night's performance unfortunately I think the answer to your question is a resounding no.
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Post by sweat83 on Jan 23, 2014 8:25:53 GMT -5
There are going to be nights like the Bonnie game. The key is, not to do it 2 games in a row, and at home. That being said, VCU will be on the road for the 2nd time this week. Hopefully we'll have a big crowd on hand, and control the tempo. VCU is athletic, they move the ball on offense, and are relentless on defense. They hound you on D from the moment you inbound the ball. And they were hitting 3's early and often in the first half. I didn't see much size up front, but anytime Dayton fed the ball inside, all defenders converged on the big. Usually resulted in a missed shot or a TO. 40 minutes of this. I don't think they pay any attention to the shot clock on offense either. Good rotation, and if a guy has an open shot, up it goes. We have our work cut out for us on Saturday.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 25, 2014 11:17:12 GMT -5
Today's slate:
VCU @ La Salle, Noon (ESPN2) GW @ George Mason, Noon (NBCSN) Dayton @ URI, 4PM (CBSSN) Joe's @ Richmond, 4PM (NBCSN) Bonnies @ Duquesne, 7PM
Then tomorrow: Fordham @ UMass, Noon (NBCSN)
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Post by SICguy84 on Jan 25, 2014 17:57:03 GMT -5
Well at least City Line Ave got spanked in Richmond.
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Post by ltrain38 on Jan 25, 2014 18:21:49 GMT -5
Watching Dayton slide off the bubble cheers me up a bit after today's game.
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Post by cpico on Jan 25, 2014 21:40:32 GMT -5
And just to rub salt in the wound after our monumental collapse today down the stretch and in the first overtime in our loss to VCU, the powerhouse that is St. Bonaventure - you know the team that manhandled us down the stretch earlier this week and beat us going away by 15 points - just lost to Duquesne. That's right they just lost to Duquesne. What a bad week for our team, underperform against an average St. Bonaventure team, and then a heartbreaking collapse against a good VCU team. I'm afraid of what our record will look like after the next 5 games.
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Post by Gnocchi on Jan 26, 2014 11:05:24 GMT -5
Amazing end to the Duquesne game. Bonnies up 1 shooting 2 FTs with about 3.9 seconds left. Guy misses both and after getting the rebound Duquesne calls a timeout. Sound familiar?
Ball under the basket, Dukes get it in to Colter and he streaks up the floor and hits a shot just outside the 3-point arc as the ball leaves his hand with about .2 seconds left.
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Post by durenduren on Jan 26, 2014 11:44:59 GMT -5
After yesterday, I want everyone to lose.
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Post by lwc4591 on Jan 26, 2014 18:06:50 GMT -5
Duren maybe I am wrong but I just don't think the A10 is any match for last season's A10. This season I only see two maybe three teams worthy of NCAA consideration (St.L., Mass. and maybe GW). Forget VCU because our biggest win over GW is bigger than any of their 16 wins period. Some may say sour grapes but I say tell me which win or wins were a big deal for them. Despite the horrendous officiating and foolish move of G going into stall ball with five minutes left I will pull for the A10 teams but I do not kid myself into thinking that we are that good this season. If team doesn't give up will probably win minimum of 9-10 games in A10 in a year that we are a NIT team.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 26, 2014 19:04:25 GMT -5
Duren maybe I am wrong but I just don't think the A10 is any match for last season's A10. This season I only see two maybe three teams worthy of NCAA consideration (St.L., Mass. and maybe GW). Forget VCU because our biggest win over GW is bigger than any of their 16 wins period. Some may say sour grapes but I say tell me which win or wins were a big deal for them. Despite the horrendous officiating and foolish move of G going into stall ball with five minutes left I will pull for the A10 teams but I do not kid myself into thinking that we are that good this season. If team doesn't give up will probably win minimum of 9-10 games in A10 in a year that we are a NIT team. You realize the A10 is debatably a 5 bid conference this year. Not that I respect Martelli that much but I respect Jon Roth a lot both of which said this is the strongest year for the A10. SLU, VCU, GW and UMass are pretty much locked in barring a complete meltdown. Dayton wasn't far off either until they collapsed in conference play. I bet on one more team scrounging up a fifth bid right now it looks to be Richmond but will see. With La Salle, Saint Joes, and Dayton maybe St Bona making the NIT. BUT if you really interested in their wins here are some. Gonzaga, Cal, Virginia, Creighton, Belmont, BYU, Clemson, New Mexico, Providence, LSU, Indiana State, Maryland.
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Post by db on Jan 26, 2014 19:05:26 GMT -5
VCU's win at Virginia is better than any win La Salle has including at home against GW.
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Post by lwc4591 on Jan 26, 2014 20:49:29 GMT -5
db welcome aboard. I commented yesterday on Virginia being their (VCU) best win but Virginia has fallen back from #24 rating it had at start of season. Truth is it doesn't matter because GW already has beaten VCU along with us if not cheated out of victory yesterday. I am not saying VCU isn't a solid team but they are living off past results and simply put have a ton of wins against so so teams. As it stands now I believe VCU has one win against a top 50 team 20 games into the season and that may not remain if Virginia falls a little. To put it in perspective this time last season La Salle had three wins against top 50 teams and all three remained in top 50 for duration of season. La Salle ended up with four or five wins over top 25 teams at seasons end I doubt VCU will end up with one and keep in mind I only count where a team is rated at end of season not some Bull Sh.. ratings at start of season when no games have even been played.
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Post by lwc4591 on Jan 26, 2014 20:57:13 GMT -5
Champion15 I stated that St.L., Mass., and probably GW were worthy but I will not bite on VCU for reasons stated on my previous post. Dayton is flat out not a NCAA team and VCU is very debatable not in the sense that they won't get in due to past few years but on the fact that they just aren't that good. Maybe this will help we were pathetic in the first half and they were only four ahead and we basically were taking their heads off in the second half at one point out scoring them 40-26 before G mad a terrible mistake with 6 minutes remaining with a lot of away cooking from the bias refs.
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Post by db on Jan 26, 2014 23:41:59 GMT -5
db welcome aboard. I commented yesterday on Virginia being their (VCU) best win but Virginia has fallen back from #24 rating it had at start of season. Truth is it doesn't matter because GW already has beaten VCU along with us if not cheated out of victory yesterday. I am not saying VCU isn't a solid team but they are living off past results and simply put have a ton of wins against so so teams. As it stands now I believe VCU has one win against a top 50 team 20 games into the season and that may not remain if Virginia falls a little. To put it in perspective this time last season La Salle had three wins against top 50 teams and all three remained in top 50 for duration of season. La Salle ended up with four or five wins over top 25 teams at seasons end I doubt VCU will end up with one and keep in mind I only count where a team is rated at end of season not some Bull Sh.. ratings at start of season when no games have even been played. Virginia is currently #22 in the RPI ahead of anyone in the A-10 save UMass. Falling a little doesn't drop them out of the top 50. They'd have to collapse. They're #16 in Ken Pomeroy's ratings as well, which is ahead of anyone in the A-10 including SLU and UMass. Quite frankly it's the best OOC true road win in the A-10 and it's not even close. VCU was only 3-6 vs. the top 50 last year and got a 5-seed. We have 6 more top 50 games in our last 11, 2 at home. It's not our fault we haven't had our top 50 A-10 games yet. It's not like you guys drawing Butler and VCU early. The only difference is when you got the chances to play for those wins. VCU hasn't had that chance yet, so it's a little disingenuous to compare apples to oranges and portray them as apples to apples. VCU could very well have 3 top 50 wins (and probably should) by the time we actually get to play our A-10 top 50 games. Using your own criteria, the only win over the final AP Top 25 (the only poll that actually counts) teams was against Kansas State and that was in the NCAA tournament, not 4 or 5. None of your regular season wins were over anyone ranked in the final top 25 poll.
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Post by ltrain38 on Jan 27, 2014 0:28:39 GMT -5
db welcome aboard. I commented yesterday on Virginia being their (VCU) best win but Virginia has fallen back from #24 rating it had at start of season. Truth is it doesn't matter because GW already has beaten VCU along with us if not cheated out of victory yesterday. I am not saying VCU isn't a solid team but they are living off past results and simply put have a ton of wins against so so teams. As it stands now I believe VCU has one win against a top 50 team 20 games into the season and that may not remain if Virginia falls a little. To put it in perspective this time last season La Salle had three wins against top 50 teams and all three remained in top 50 for duration of season. La Salle ended up with four or five wins over top 25 teams at seasons end I doubt VCU will end up with one and keep in mind I only count where a team is rated at end of season not some Bull Sh.. ratings at start of season when no games have even been played. Virginia is currently #22 in the RPI ahead of anyone in the A-10 save UMass. Falling a little doesn't drop them out of the top 50. They'd have to collapse. They're #16 in Ken Pomeroy's ratings as well, which is ahead of anyone in the A-10 including SLU and UMass. Quite frankly it's the best OOC true road win in the A-10 and it's not even close. VCU was only 3-6 vs. the top 50 last year and got a 5-seed. We have 6 more top 50 games in our last 11, 2 at home. It's not our fault we haven't had our top 50 A-10 games yet. It's not like you guys drawing Butler and VCU early. The only difference is when you got the chances to play for those wins. VCU hasn't had that chance yet, so it's a little disingenuous to compare apples to oranges and portray them as apples to apples. VCU could very well have 3 top 50 wins (and probably should) by the time we actually get to play our A-10 top 50 games. Using your own criteria, the only win over the final AP Top 25 (the only poll that actually counts) teams was against Kansas State and that was in the NCAA tournament, not 4 or 5. None of your regular season wins were over anyone ranked in the final top 25 poll. Why are you here? Your team wins a game and you feel compelled to snuff out any doubts about their greatness on the other team's board?
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Post by db on Jan 27, 2014 0:39:42 GMT -5
VCU isn't great. We're decent and a team that would be dancing if the season ended today. All I did was post the reasons why that is since the poster I was responding to is convinced that we haven't done anything to deserve that.
Am I not allowed to post accurate information when someone posts things that aren't true about my team? Is it threatening for some reason?
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 27, 2014 1:48:28 GMT -5
no not threatening, in fact on this board we welcome good conversation from opponents that are informed. Its just that you approach it like your username suggests. Your not doing your fan base any favors with your posts.
VCU does only have one win against a top 50 rpi team. At years end, they have to win tough games in conference to prove that they are a tournament quality team. Can they do it? Sure. But are they in right now, absolutely not. I don't know if that deserves a rant as such.
If you're a stickler for accuracy then you would realize that Dayton's win against Gonzaga, Richmonds win against Umass, GW's win against Creighton are all comparable to the win against Virginia.
Regardless, good luck with the rest of the conference. now scram.
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