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Post by fvp47 on Dec 3, 2013 19:36:52 GMT -5
We know from last year that they can shoot. I did an analysis, I think after the Northern Iowa game, and when I posted the data it got mangled but.
FG% Duren from 45.6% to 38.8% Wright from 57.9% to 50.0% Garland from 42.2% to 35.1% Mills from 40.9% to 36.0% Zack from 54.5% to 50.0% Petersen from 39.6% to 38.9%
3 Point % Duren from 39.0% to 24.1% Garland from 27.8% toi 30.6% Mills from 37.9% to 39.3%. Peterson from 40.0% to 12.5%
This of course does not take into account number of shots, etc. Also I agree with the earlier posts in how we are not chasing the opposition off the three point line.
They need some confidence builders. Go Explorers.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 3, 2013 21:24:06 GMT -5
Just win. Because this sums up how we all feel lately. NSFW for language.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 4, 2013 8:50:17 GMT -5
7 games and ready to bail on the team? Couple of positives: 1 - players were/are confident they'll return to the tourney; not hoping, but confident... 2 - the players worked hard this summer to improve their game and take the program to the next level (consistent post season appearances) 3 - talks of our big men showing improvement It's very possible that the players worked on their individual games at a level they never previously had done before and were overly excited to show-off their improvements which has caused sloppy play and tendencies to playing outside of the style that got them to the tourney in the first place. It's also very possible that the players were expecting teams to rollover to them because they're a Sweet 16 team. We've seen the team come on really strong in spurts. Zack become a legit double-double threat every game; Wright has been getting better in terms of shooting from the field which will only help as the season goes; Duren/Garland are both able to get in the lane at will, eventually those shots inside will fall; Mills has seen a slight improvement in his 3pt shooting; Jury is still out on Lewis since he's coming back from an injury that hampered his shooting ability and still trying to get in game-shape. Disappointing? For me, it's the lack of development or the inability for Davis to get ANY playing time really outside of garbage time. If the team is struggling inside or to grab boards and Zack or Wright are on the bench for any reason, it's disheartening to see Brown come in over Davis. Granted, Brown has a nose for the ball but he's not big enough to bang with bigs. Comparisons to Zack seem to be completely off at this point. Zack was not a major contributor by any means as a freshman, but he saw playing time every game. Davis has been in only half the games while only getting 1 minute against Northern Iowa in a blowout and 4 against Morgan State in another blowout as a Redshirt Freshman! There's plenty of season left and this team will likely improve as the season progresses. Will the team roll through opponents? Doesn't look like it, but this team is still very capable of making another run towards the end of the season. I think you nailed a lot of good points here. We certainly are not geling as a team. But Coach G's team generally have shown improvement over a season. They get better. We need to keep the faith. But this has been ugly. It was a rough Turkey holiday. Most family gatherings though La Salle alum dominated are mixed crowds. Infidels from Nova, Drexel, St Joes and GW have married into the family. It got more than wearisome hearing, "I thought you guys were suppose to be good". ETC.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 4, 2013 8:57:59 GMT -5
I also subscribe to the theory that the team gets better as the season goes on under G. For some reason we start slow each year. Next 3 games will be telling. We go from fairly easy to difficult with these teams we play (Hartford, SB, Nova).
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Post by coachd on Dec 4, 2013 11:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by angryal on Dec 4, 2013 15:49:34 GMT -5
Much soul searching this Thanksgiving for those closely connected to our beloved program. I just have a feeling, totally gut not brain, that G will turn this around. I hope you're right!
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Dec 4, 2013 18:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 4, 2013 18:42:19 GMT -5
We have to much talent to roll over. To much experience. This is what I keep telling myself anyway. G has got to solve this.
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 20:50:33 GMT -5
I know how depressing Duren injury is and he clearly has been affected by it, his stats prove that.
BUT now with Duren out what does that mean for this team? Can Khalid play 30+ minutes a game. I honestly don't think anyone giving him enough credit. What about Rohan or even Dunn? Anyone have any ideas?
I honestly think the best decision for now if were looking to fight until Duren comes back is to start Wright Zack Mills Peterson and Garland maybe rotate Khalid and Rohan off the bench. Give Dunn some more minutes if he plays well. I didn't understand why Dunn was benched in the Penn State game after hitting two threes made no sense to me.
One line that I think might work relatively well is Rohan, Zack, Garland, Khalid and Petersen. Just a thought.
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Dec 6, 2013 13:33:00 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 6, 2013 13:33:00 GMT -5
Is it to early in the season to watch the Sweet DVD instead of the games? I hope this doesn't turn into a disaster sub .500 season. Back to reality. Back to the middle of the pack. I figured practicing with all these transfers they would be battle ready. Can't really figure it out. TDs injury does not explain everything that's for sure.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 13:44:01 GMT -5
15 your lineup of Rohan, Zack, ... does not have enough offense but then again without TD no lineup gives you enough offense.
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Dec 7, 2013 23:03:14 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 7, 2013 23:03:14 GMT -5
This Nova game is a chance to hit the reset button. I am counting on city pride and the fact that these Big 5 games mean a lot to the Philly players. If we can come together and win this game it could get us back on track. It will be a barometer for where we are before A10 play begins. We need to win the game. We are past the point of moral victories.
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Dec 9, 2013 13:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 9, 2013 13:22:46 GMT -5
Who thinks we have a shot? I have a feeling LaSalle is coming to play. What do you guys think?
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 9, 2013 13:25:53 GMT -5
Who thinks we have a shot? I have a feeling LaSalle is coming to play. What do you guys think? Always a shot but it is going to be very difficult to win this game. Nova is bigger at almost every position, especially on the perimeter. I also can't see anyone being able to handle Pinkston either. All I am hoping for is a decent showing. I think this Nova team is better than both VCU and Butler from last year. I just wish we were 7-2 going into this game rather than 5-4.
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Post by explorerman on Dec 9, 2013 13:28:46 GMT -5
Who thinks we have a shot? I have a feeling LaSalle is coming to play. What do you guys think? The team hasn't hit a perimeter shot all season long and it is a shot that we need to hit on a regular basis because our front court is about to get a handle full… I am cheering for La Salle but I am not optimistic..
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 10, 2013 14:04:13 GMT -5
UMass is sitting right where I thought we would be. 9-0 and top 25. LaSalle has got to man up and beat Nova. No analysis is needed. WIN THE GAME. This is the reset button game. Nova is not going undefeated this year. LaSalle might as well be their first L.
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Post by angryal on Dec 11, 2013 15:48:39 GMT -5
UMass is sitting right where I thought we would be. 9-0 and top 25. I was thinking along similar lines and everyone got bent out of shape because I didn't worship at the altar over a insignificant win over an insignificant Stony Brook team. Which - contrary to other opinions - is NOT a member of the Big Ten or Atlantic Coast Conference - but that basketball strong-hold, America East.
Dick Jerardi is in my camp, based upon his article in the Philadelphia Daily News today, writing, "The updated prediction is 15-15 and 7-9. That is based on how much La Salle's defense has slipped and how poor its shooting has been."
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Dec 11, 2013 15:53:17 GMT -5
Again, I'll make reference to the point that both Sam and DJ do the promos announcing themselves as "shooting guards". I hope they come through as such.
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Post by golasalle on Dec 11, 2013 17:32:27 GMT -5
UMass is sitting right where I thought we would be. 9-0 and top 25. I was thinking along similar lines and everyone got bent out of shape because I didn't worship at the altar over a insignificant win over an insignificant Stony Brook team. Which - contrary to other opinions - is NOT a member of the Big Ten or Atlantic Coast Conference - but that basketball strong-hold, America East.
Dick Jerardi is in my camp, based upon his article in the Philadelphia Daily News today, writing, "The updated prediction is 15-15 and 7-9. That is based on how much La Salle's defense has slipped and how poor its shooting has been."You did some nice creative editing on the Jerardi article to fit your narrative. The next sentence which you conveniently omitted is "I still lean more to the original prediction, but the Explorers have to do it on the court. They have no nonconference résumé at the moment so Sunday's game at Villanova is bigger than big for La Salle." Cannot argue with the article, now that your cherry-picking is put in its proper context. Your ridiculous exaggerations and over-reactions are getting as tiresome as the ridiculous screaming bold-ed font. <<Finger inches closer to "ignore" button>>
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 13, 2013 13:38:04 GMT -5
This Nova game is a chance to hit the reset button. I am counting on city pride and the fact that these Big 5 games mean a lot to the Philly players. If we can come together and win this game it could get us back on track. It will be a barometer for where we are before A10 play begins. We need to win the game. We are past the point of moral victories. This Villanova game is certainly a golden opportunity. What is better than playing a top ten team, who is undefeated, and at the moment the class of the big 5? And we know these guys. We beat them last year. We have reason to think we should be able to compete with them. My nose is sore from holding it. We will certainly need to play a better brand of BBall then we have so far this year. Hard to imagine we can't. There is every indication that this squad had a highly dedicated off season. And, this squad went to the NCAAs and sweet 16 last year, as we all know. They know how to much more consistently execute than shown thus far. They did it last year. They know how to shoot the ball with an attitude and belief----that it is going to go in. Where their collective confidence went appears to be a mystery even to the coach. But I am of the opinion that we will find ourself, rediscover the formula and play a better brand of basketball. It would be super for it to be this Sunday.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:53:16 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 13, 2013 20:53:16 GMT -5
Just watched SportsNite on CSN. They interviewed Wright and G. G seemed real confident. Was very complimentary of our guys and said we have the guards and the bigs to score. We have for to play good D and the team who scores the most points wins. Wright said we remind him of his team and that scares him. I feel at some point they have to lose and we have to have a break out game. Why not Sunday. Let's go EXPLORERS!!!
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Dec 15, 2013 17:05:27 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 15, 2013 17:05:27 GMT -5
G better hit the recruiting trail HARD!!! He has got to ring every drop out of our Sweet 16 run. Doesn't look like that will happen this year. Need some skilled big men.
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 15, 2013 17:49:49 GMT -5
maybe i am being too optimistc but I refuse to just give up on the season. They aren't playing well but I just believe this team is better than what they are showing.
So what needs to happen?
We need to win out the rest of the non conference schedule, beat GW at home on the 9th, beat Temple, beat VCU and not lose a game till we travel to GW.
If we go 11-5 in the A10 with a couple quality wins if not 3 top 50 wins without a bad loss we could still make the tournament. My guess would be beat GW, VCU and SLU all at home. Lose to @umass @dayton, @gw and two more losses from maybe @richmond or @bona. I know it is a long shot but this is my final straw with this team and I just refuse to give up on them just yet. Also, there still in the A10 tourney to pick up a few quality wins.
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Post by ltrain38 on Dec 15, 2013 17:53:13 GMT -5
I don't know man. If we go 11-5 in the A-10 with 3 top 50 wins, that still leaves us with no less than 10 losses and a losing record against the top 50. Even in that best case scenario, that's not a tournament resume. Ten games of bad-terrible shooting is not an accident. I think there is talent on this team, but we've played a third of the season and the pieces aren't fitting together. I hope they improve enough to play postseason basketball of some sort. But I can't see any scenario, short of everything clicking for four days in Brooklyn, where we get back to the NCAAs.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 15, 2013 17:56:37 GMT -5
BROOKLYN OR BUST.
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Post by 1stflooredwards on Dec 15, 2013 18:20:32 GMT -5
G better hit the recruiting trail HARD!!! He has got to ring every drop out of our Sweet 16 run. Doesn't look like that will happen this year. Need some skilled big men. So you've given up on the 4 guard system that everyone was so high on and that took La Salle to the Sweet 16 last year?
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Post by gymrat67 on Dec 15, 2013 18:23:15 GMT -5
How can we realistically expect this year's team to compete at a high level in Div. I and A - 10 basketball when no one on this team can make a shot from 3 - point distance ?
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Dec 15, 2013 18:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Dec 15, 2013 18:29:39 GMT -5
NO!!! We have quality guards already. Wright and Zack are seniors next year. We need to restock the big men. I like the guard heavy system. Look what it's doing for Nova. Look what it did for us last year.
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 15, 2013 22:12:01 GMT -5
I don't know man. If we go 11-5 in the A-10 with 3 top 50 wins, that still leaves us with no less than 10 losses and a losing record against the top 50. Even in that best case scenario, that's not a tournament resume. Ten games of bad-terrible shooting is not an accident. I think there is talent on this team, but we've played a third of the season and the pieces aren't fitting together. I hope they improve enough to play postseason basketball of some sort. But I can't see any scenario, short of everything clicking for four days in Brooklyn, where we get back to the NCAAs. You never know, it depends on a few things. First, how strong other teams resumes are when March comes. Second, if we don't have a bad loss that will help significantly. Imagine if we didn't have that CCSU lose on our resume last year, we would have upped our seeding. Lastly, with a few solid wins, IMO should be 3 or 4 against top 50 opponents than we can get a bid. Our schedule is really favorable in the A10. The teams we play twice are nothing special except for GW. St. Bonaventure always tough to play away and they look like they may be better this year. SJU and the Dukes are really bad. We just got to grab a few wins against a few of the tough guys in the A10. Obviously, that starts with playing better but I still haven't given completely up. If we lose one more in the OOC than I probably will say all chances are over of us getting an at large but until than LETS GO. As of now Brooklyn seems like are only hope right now with the way were playing.
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Post by mookie on Dec 16, 2013 9:08:41 GMT -5
NO!!! We have quality guards already. Wright and Zack are seniors next year. We need to restock the big men. I like the guard heavy system. Look what it's doing for Nova. Look what it did for us last year. The big men are improving and are outplaying the guards right now and have been all season. I would love it if the team was able bring in another big man that can contribute off the back (highly disappointed that Davis is nothing more than a practice body after red-shirting). Look at the stats, the team shot 50% yesterday if you remove the abysmal 3pt shooting. Wright had almost 50% of the team's scoring in the first half yesterday. Our guards struggled mightily against the press and the perimeter defense, especially Duren. Garland took a few bad shots yesterday but for the most part, I thought he was the victim of having his shot swatted...often. Teams know the offense is struggling (that's an understatement) from the field and so they can just play tighter and collapse the lane that much easier. What was a strong point last year has become a glaring weakness this year...guard play. Need shooters...ASAP. Here's hoping the transfers/redshirts are taking notice and working on becoming lights out from the midrange and 3.
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Post by fvp47 on Dec 16, 2013 9:25:03 GMT -5
Unless my math is wrong in the first half, taking out Wright, the rest were 1-7 from three point range and 5-14 from everyplace else. In the second half it was 0-6 and 6-14 respectively. Once Nova backed up so that our guards could not penetrate and dish off they could not hit a shot. Also as you see the number of shots were the same at 14. This is a group that has so lost confidence in itself that no one will shoot the ball except for Garland.
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