Marshall Henderson Suspended

[coqui900]

Who had three games in the over/under slap-on-the-wrist poll for Marshall?

espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9893511/ole-miss-guard-marshall-henderson-gets-second-chance-suspension-espn-magazine

[durenduren]

Must have been for conduct unbecoming of a human being.

[expbrady03]

Oct 29, 2013 13:15:07 GMT -5 durenduren said:

Must have been for conduct unbecoming of a human being.

+1

[theneumann64]

Love that we put this guy out of commission last year.

[lasallerules1978]

I love how we took care of ole miss as well., but I'm not going to lie I felt bad for him as I read the article. I hope he can overcome his demons, I just kept having visions of Chris Herron.

[MisterD]

"I'm like, "Well, I'm not a professional, so I don't get paid, so why is partying when the season is over frowned upon? Why do I have to be held to a higher standard? These people I'm with -- future doctors, lawyers, businessmen -- they don't have to take a drug test. Why do I?"

I liked that.

[stlexplorer]

Still a clown

[durenduren]

Counterfeits money to buy weed.
Goes to federal prison for 180 days.
Goes to third college in Ole Miss.
Flips off fans in pretty much every SEC arena and tourney.
Wants to party, but upset over drug tests.
Violates probation when driving without insurance.
Gets caught with amounts of weed and cocain too small to prosecute.
"It won't happen again" said Henderson for the 1000th time.

Yeah, I don't feel sorry. Nope.

[MisterD]

That just makes him a nuisance. Just off what we know, there are plenty of far worse dudes playing NCAAB.

[expbrady03]

Oct 29, 2013 22:18:49 GMT -5 MisterD said:

That just makes him a nuisance. Just off what we know, there are plenty of far worse dudes playing NCAAB.

Strange days we live in when a felon is just a "nuisance."

[MisterD]

Ignoring people who have committed felonies and either gotten off or simply never been caught, if you listed every felon in the country, I'm pretty sure "18 year old who made fake money to buy weed" is right near the bottom in terms of danger and damage to society. Like I said, he's a nuisance until he proves himself worse.

[Deleted]

Oct 30, 2013 8:23:56 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Ignoring people who have committed felonies and either gotten off or simply never been caught, if you listed every felon in the country, I'm pretty sure "18 year old who made fake money to buy weed" is right near the bottom in terms of danger and damage to society. Like I said, he's a nuisance until he proves himself worse.

So you think a guy caught with weed and cocaine in his car is only a nuisance? Luckily for him the local cops looked the other way and let him off with a citation for no insurance instead of doing a drug test (one of the bennys of being a hoops star at Ole Miss). The guy is a train wreck but they'll keep giving him more chances and don't be surprised if someday he gets behind the wheel of a car and kills someone while driving under the influence.

[durenduren]

I know there's people out there that are far more detrimental to society on pretty much every level, and arguably some are more problematic than him playing DI sports... But they also aren't spewing out pity-craving interviews for ESPN Magazine. If you're upset that people need to hold your hand, going as far as random daily check-ins, maybe you shouldn't messed up your 500th second chance. 100% Nuisance, no accountability on his part, and no pity from me. Been given every chance in the world and some, and he's just laughing and/or snorting it away.

[durenduren]

For all of his antics, flipping off all of Auburn and La Salle, sneaking off to bars during the tourney, violating his probation, getting caught with weed and cocain on probation... he's got the longest leash in the world. Halil earned two games for flipping off Nova, and all of that got Marshall 3 games...

[MisterD]

Yes, I think a college kid with weed and coke is just a nuisance. If that's A BIG SERIOUS PROBLEM, then we're just completely screwed.



(Unless all of that is just A BIG SERIOUS PROBLEM because he plays basketball. Then we have a different problem.)

[MisterD]

Don't get me wrong, I don't pity the kid or want to hug him and make him smile, I just think his outrage-to-offense level is insane. Take every kid who drives drunk, every kid who hits a girlfriend, every kid beating the hell out of other students ... they're worse. That's before you get into the ones committing sexual assaults and worse. Henderson is a nuisance treated like far worse because he likes the attention.

[durenduren]

I agree that his actions don't match the level of outrage he faces, but that's what you sign up for when you go to a high level DI school. By the extra attention he's asked for by his constant in-game antics, outspoken social media and interviews, and his repeated slip ups, he's increased the magnitude of that microscope he was already under by being a star. I get your point, and I guess there is a double standard when it comes to star athletes like himself, but gosh he's such a boner.

[MisterD]

Total boner. Absolutely.

[durenduren]

I still can't believe DJ pulled out the shark fin card after K-State. The stones.

[MisterD]

I loved that. And honestly, I bet Henderson loved it too. You can't succeed at being a villain/antagonist if no one is willing to engage you.

[coqui900]

I feel awful that he suffers from some sort of addiction but he's a total j-o at the same time. A lot of people have issues and they don't carry around like he does with his antics. The other thing -- he's not nearly as good as he acts. He's a total turkey burger.

[calidelphia]

dude is destined to throw any NBA career away. fact is dr's and lawyers can only get away with their addictions when it's functional, not breaking state law and due to the fact that they aren't a representative of the school on a national level.

To completely debunk his crybaby "why me" sob story, if he was a normal student i.e. law or medicine, he would not have gotten back into a 3rd school, would not have gotten off with "trace amounts" and would essentially be in jail given the multiple strikes. He has completely thrown away his potential by playing the victim and not appreciating the preferential treatment that he has gotten. + a regular student isn't representing (or tarnishing) the school on a national stage all year long, that's why he's held to a higher standard with drug tests.

Hate to say it but there is little chance that this ends well for the kid when he's fighting it like this. he refuses to let anyone help him including chris herron who has reached out. It's also a shame that ole miss won't deal with him appropriately as he keeps walking all over their schools image. I don't think most schools would offer someone like him a scholarship. La Salle has been embarrassed in the past when we didn't deal with behavioral issues of student athletes correctly and the negative affects it had on "our brand" on a national level was significant.

Sorry if you can't blow lines, smoke a blunt and drink 40'z with your law and med student buddies, but you get a scholarship to play basketball and represent the university nationally. You are a big part of the schools marketing campaign. That's not going to work well if you can't stay out of jail.

I'd love to hear Archie Mannings' take on this joker.

[MisterD]

Yeah, I'm sure Archie didn't watch a second of the tournament team led by Henderson.

[theneumann64]

My thoughts:

It's a joke that these guys get drug tested when not in season, but in my opinion, the whole idea of urine testing is nonsense to begin with. Basically the only thing that stays in your system longer than a few days is the least serious thing. The fact that marijuana is tested for, and illegal, in this day and age, is so utterly stupid...but now we're really getting off track.

Anyway, I can't address a lot of the points on this thread without getting in to drug policy, the NCAA's hypocrisy, etc. But I will say this, Marshall Henderson is not getting "oppressed" any more than any other NCAA athlete, and very few others seem to have gotten so much leeway, or had so much to say, about it.

Long story short, I think he's probably a punk, but the fact that he parties, or smokes weed, doesn't automatically make him so. I'll be honest, I've got a bit of a history that might make a lot of you consider me a punk, or a scumbag, or whatever. That's why I like to believe in nuance, even if a nuanced look at this case does seem to still indicate he's not a great guy. But if getting arrested a few times automatically makes you scum, then you're putting a hell of a lot of people in that box, myself included.

[MisterD]

Ding ding ding.

[durenduren]

I see a lot of similarities between our boy Aaric and Marshall. Talented beyond all hell, but expects much of the world to cater to them, but perceives the world to be the enemy. Could turn himself into a beneficial polarizing figure, but he misses the mark on so many of his actions and causes more harm than good for the Ole Miss program.

And just because, the NCAA = Hypocrisy on so many levels

[Shout out to my Cousin Bern]

I take no joy in seeing Henderson fail, nor do I wish him to fail. Everyone deserves the right to become a better person and not put down as a result of past transgressions.

+ We beat him last year. No reason to dislike him.

[lasalle89]

Ole Miss is keeping him around because he is a winner. He was a major reason they won the SEC Tournament and a tourney game. His confidence spills over to his teammates.
As far as his personal life is concerned I hope he can turn it around. I wish him well and hope he matures. Let he without sin cast the first stone.

[lasallerules1978]

I guess thats why I hope he turns his life around. I was a punk per the definition on this board and I was able to make it. I did alot of stupid shit in life and probably could of led to serious consequences, but I was lucky. I will not judge the kid and hope he overcomes his issues. As far as basketball goes there is no better feeling beating players who leave their emotions on the floor. I would love to beat someone like AI, I loved playing against the best players and succeeding which Im sure our boys do as well.

I still cant believe how people don't realize how smoking weed is like drinking a beer in college. Don't give me what is legal vs what is not. Owning an automatic gun is legal doesnt make it right. We need to wake up before judging college kids.

[coqui900]

I don't want to judge Marshall. He's obviously a kid with a lot of problems.

I will, however, judge Ole Miss. I highly doubt they're doing the most they can to help this kid steer him into living a productive life into his adulthood. If they were, his punishment for driving around with cocaine in his car wouldn't be a three game suspension. There might be stuff behind the scenes with him that we'll never know but I don't trust a big SEC school to do the right thing.

I admit that I don't exactly know what the right thing is. But I would hope drug counseling, someone mentoring him, etc. might be in order.