Transfer Rules

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FanRag Sports
Rothstein | NCAA to meet soon about immediate eligibility for transfers
By Jon Rothstein
3 days ago. The NCAA will meet soon regarding immediate eligibility for transfers, multiple sources have informed FanRag Sports. The main point of discussion in these meetings will be that if a student athlete earns a certain GPA, he or she would be eligible to transfer immediately without a sit out year.

One source told FanRag Sports that while “nothing is official,” the expected GPA for a student athlete to earn immediate eligibility as a transfer would be either a “2.7 or 2.8.” Two other separate sources said that if this rule is passed, it would go into effect on August 1, 2018.

One other topic of discussion that will be voted on at NCAA meetings will be guaranteeing a scholarship for the length of the graduate program as it relates to graduate transfers. Most graduate programs are for two years, meaning that if a program wanted to add a graduate transfer it would then have to guarantee the scholarship for two full seasons...This might be a game changer for many programs!!!

[MisterD]

Overall clearly a good thing for the kids, but I imagine this hurts us. If a typical freshman/sophomore major conference transfer is usually leaving for PT and now other majors could take them on for roster holes.

[JoeFedorowicz]

Jan 17, 2018 8:11:07 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Overall clearly a good thing for the kids, but I imagine this hurts us. If a typical freshman/sophomore major conference transfer is usually leaving for PT and now other majors could take them on for roster holes.

I'd love some research on how many college basketball transfers have a 2.7 GPA, but that whole thing makes me uneasy. I already don't like the "Well he didn't clear Clearinghouse" discussions. "He has to sit out a year because of his grades" isn't a fun topic. If they can play for your school academically, why can't they play for another school.

[lasalle89]

Mid majors and lower conferences would become practice squads for the Big Dogs.
“Well we don’t have a scholarship for you so go to this school for a couple of years and if we see growth we will bring you up.”
Horrible idea. It would be a free for all.

[MisterD]

"A kid gets to transfer to Vanderbilt because they have a scholarship open" can't be a horrible idea, can it? Atleast not from the proper vantage point. And the easy way around that would be to stop limiting kids and start limiting schools, only allow 3 transfers in every 2 years or whatever equation best works. (And do NOT make it a net transfer thing or else there are going to be force outs all over the place. Which means the NCAA would absolutely make it a net transfer thing.)

[thelasallelunatic]

Jan 17, 2018 10:14:16 GMT -5 MisterD said:

"A kid gets to transfer to Vanderbilt because they have a scholarship open" can't be a horrible idea, can it? Atleast not from the proper vantage point. And the easy way around that would be to stop limiting kids and start limiting schools, only allow 3 transfers in every 2 years or whatever equation best works. (And do NOT make it a net transfer thing or else there are going to be force outs all over the place. Which means the NCAA would absolutely make it a net transfer thing.)

I agree.

[calsufan]

Were Coach K, Roy, Calipari and Pitino (since departed) on that committee? This sounds like a big school player grab to me.

[lasalle89]

G gave his opinion on this a few years ago and said he likes the one year sit out rule. Don’t know what he would think about it with new rules and regs.

[weston2]

Jan 17, 2018 15:40:31 GMT -5 calsufan said:

Were Coach K, Roy, Calipari and Pitino (since departed) on that committee? This sounds like a big school player grab to me.

Yep, the name on the jersey only means something to the fans/faithful. This looks like it is something for the players, er, students, but it will only enhance the big schools. Minors to the bigs ?? Will we see coaches run kids off (more frequently) since they'll be no sit out rule? Maybe they can have a reverse pipeline. A10 and B10 can have a working relationship? (maybe get some playing dates, too?)

[MisterD]

Oh man, having to offer to play AT the school you're taking the player from would be an amazing stipulation.

[durenduren]

Jan 18, 2018 12:42:01 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Oh man, having to offer to play AT the school you're taking the player from would be an amazing stipulation.

This is about the only part of the entire idea that doesn't suck. That'd create some hilarious drama.

[postup]

Terrible idea. The prospect of sitting out a year makes them ask themselves, "Are things REALLY so bad here that I need to transfer?"

[MisterD]

And that's definitely a question an amateur student should have to ask, right?

[postup]

Yup!

[vital]

Lebron Flow... maybe form a super team at a small major and run the table in March!!!

[weston2]

Jan 18, 2018 16:59:36 GMT -5 MisterD said:

And that's definitely a question an amateur student should have to ask, right?

An amateur "athlete"......................the student should be counting his lucky stars that a sport is getting him a possible college diploma, plus connections, etc,.............and no debt.

[MisterD]

You feel the same about full academic scholarships, correct?

[weston2]

Jan 19, 2018 18:17:12 GMT -5 MisterD said:

You feel the same about full academic scholarships, correct?

Don't really see any connection.

BTW, athletic scholarships are virtual academic scholarship now, if the athlete can comeback at any time after leaving to complete his degree. How much better can you get it.

[MisterD]

You don’t see the connection between “student getting free education from a university” and “student getting free education from a university”?

[theneumann64]

Jan 19, 2018 17:54:12 GMT -5 weston2 said:

Jan 18, 2018 16:59:36 GMT -5 MisterD said:

And that's definitely a question an amateur student should have to ask, right?

An amateur "athlete"......................the student should be counting his lucky stars that a sport is getting him a possible college diploma, plus connections, etc,.............and no debt.

Does the same apply to other things people earn? Like should I “thank my lucky stars” that my job pays me? And I should never look for a better job?

[mookie]

Jan 19, 2018 21:03:59 GMT -5 MisterD said:

You don’t see the connection between “student getting free education from a university” and “student getting free education from a university”?

Well when you put it that way...lol

Your statement had me re-think my position on the whole should athletes be paid or receive a stipend. Do you see a difference in “student getting free education for academic purposes” vs “student getting free education for athletic purposes”?

[MisterD]

I see one as revenue generating.

[weston2]

Jan 20, 2018 10:12:34 GMT -5 MisterD said:

I see one as revenue generating.

At La Salle ? LOL. Might want to put a bid in for that art.

OK, lets go that route, so make 'em employees if you see them that way. Health insurance, 401K's, benefits. Union? Class optional. But you can be let go / fired. Is that how they want a piece of that pie? (then again, it's mostly the media leading the charge here, not really the players).

Meanwhile back in the A10..................

[mookie]

Jan 20, 2018 11:24:36 GMT -5 weston2 said:

Jan 20, 2018 10:12:34 GMT -5 MisterD said:

I see one as revenue generating.

At La Salle ? LOL. Might want to put a bid in for that art.

OK, lets go that route, so make 'em employees if you see them that way. Health insurance, 401K's, benefits. Union? Class optional. But you can be let go / fired. Is that how they want a piece of that pie? (then again, it's mostly the media leading the charge here, not really the players).

Meanwhile back in the A10..................

How much money did La Salle generate from the Sweet 16? Not only did they generate revenue from the NCAA but they also saw spikes in student applications and alumni donations. It may have been short lived but they were reaping the benefits for at least 2-3 years AFTER the fact. It wasn’t just thousands, it was millions of dollars.

Also-I would imagine La Salle makes money for playing games against some of those bigger universities.

[JoeFedorowicz]

I don’t think La Salle is paid very often. MAYBE the Miami game this year.

[postup]

“You bargained with me like a shyster lawyer. You ate every steak we bought, you made us give you a four-year, no-cut scholarship……never once did you ever ask to have your character molded.”

- Coach Moreland Smith to college basketball player Henry Steele in the movie “One on One”

It’s an equal exchange, the school gets the revenue from the team/program; the players are far from “cheated”……they get a degree, exposure to scouts that they wouldn’t get on their own, probably their athletic skill gets them over any academic obstacle that would prevent them from getting in, in the first place. They use whatever leverage they have to squeeze what they can out of a university. Sitting out a year after they’ve collected what they have from the original school is not too much to ask – there’s no halo over their heads, either.

[MisterD]

Never understand people who watch sports while clearly resenting the players.

[mookie]

Jan 20, 2018 12:25:06 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

I don’t think La Salle is paid very often. MAYBE the Miami game this year.

Didn’t expect to have it happen frequently...maybe overstated it unintentionally.

[weston2]

Jan 20, 2018 12:25:26 GMT -5 postup said:

“You bargained with me like a shyster lawyer. You ate every steak we bought, you made us give you a four-year, no-cut scholarship……never once did you ever ask to have your character molded.”

- Coach Moreland Smith to college basketball player Henry Steele in the movie “One on One”

It’s an equal exchange, the school gets the revenue from the team/program; the players are far from “cheated”……they get a degree, exposure to scouts that they wouldn’t get on their own, probably their athletic skill gets them over any academic obstacle that would prevent them from getting in, in the first place. They use whatever leverage they have to squeeze what they can out of a university. Sitting out a year after they’ve collected what they have from the original school is not too much to ask – there’s no halo over their heads, either.

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