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Post by jellybean on Jan 28, 2015 14:41:32 GMT -5
Baumann fouls literally on every play. On defense, he has you in an arm lock or is holding. On offense, he constantly moves into the defender and initiates contact while trying to set a screen.
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Post by golasalle on Jan 28, 2015 14:55:45 GMT -5
Gentleman, we get it. Nobody is giving back a win. I guarantee you if St. Joe's won there would be zero talk from thier fan base about giving back the win. First, I questioned Coach's decision not to start Wright at the beginning of the second half as well, until I read the paper today. I also questionsed why Steve Zack was a) at the top of the 1-3-1 zone and b) when they went man to man why he was guarding Newkirk. My thought was if you are going to play the 1-3-1 zone and have a presence at the top maybe use Rohan Brown in that situation. He may not be a gifted scorer, but you cannot question his hustle, determination and athletic ability. And in a game like last night, that could have come in handy. Secondly,I stated to those who sit around me that when we took the 5 point lead at 51 - 46 with 13.7 seconds left, I felt the right thing to do was foul and not let St joe's get a 3 point attempt. At the time, LaSalle still had fouls to give without giving St Joe the double bonus and if St Joe's does hit a 3 they make it a one possion game, they still had 2 timeouts that they could have called to stop the clock and setup on defense so they can foul again, stop the clock and oh by they way we were still shooting 1 and 1, so if we miss its a two to tie and a 3 to win for the hawks. Lastly, if you heard me at the game, I was the guy who yelled Chris Wilson a cheating prick. During both Amar Stukes and Steve Zack's free throw attempts he has a sublte way of causing what I beleive is a lane violation by raising his arms up prior to the shooter getting the ball from the ref and then just as the shot is about to be released he moves his arms and flexes his hands in an attempt to distract the shooter. It seems the refs were oblivious to it. Just wanted to hear your thoughts. I would cheer for the Pakastani debate team( which does not exist) before I would cheer for st joe... Regarding your questions, (a)I would love to go back and look at the replay of the game because IIRC, having Zack at the top of the 1-3-1 actually caused them some problems. It's not like he had to run around back and forth a great distance, he shaded to ball side and raised his arms causing some disruption of their passing lanes. I don't remember it really hurting them defensively, but I could be mis-remembering. (b) Respectfully disagree on fouling with 13.7 and a 5 point lead. I AM a proponent of fouling with fouls to give and a two possession game, but 13.7 is too much time to do it. Time is our friend and fouling early stops the clock. Bembry ate up 5 precious seconds in taking the ball to the hole and while they got 2 points, they only had 7 seconds left and still down 3. Even if they do get a 3, it would be hard to do and eat up less than the 5 seconds they did. I have two issues with the end game. When St. Joe had to foul, Price had the ball and gave it up to Stukes. Price is our best FT shooter and he should have forced them to foul him. Also, on the last inbound, they inbounded to Zack who is a spotty FT shooter. Thank God both young men made their FTs and sealed the win. Regarding Wilson, I did not notice that and if he was doing it it is a rule violation. Considering the amount of foot shuffling that St. Jo got away with, not surprising that the refs let that go to.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Jan 28, 2015 15:25:05 GMT -5
The Fro needs to declare after this year. Is he the best pro prospect in the A10 and City 6? He's really been playing on a high level for a non-competitive team... Is Hilliard better?
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Post by La Salle 08 on Jan 28, 2015 15:47:51 GMT -5
The Fro needs to declare after this year. Is he the best pro prospect in the A10 and City 6? He's really been playing on a high level for a non-competitive team... Is Hilliard better? I think pro scouts would probably reach for Ochefu over Bembry/ EC Matthews/ Traveon Graham. Hilliard right now is probably a little better, but compare them both as sophomores and it isn't' close. Hill had to develop his 3pt game at Nova, Bembry already has it. I know SJU has some decent players coming in, but does he want to stick through another rebuilding year to maybe have another tourney run in 16-17? He gets a degree out of it I know, but getting a pro chance or falling back on Europe isn't a bad option. Seeing what Lang is doing with the right opportunity must be on his mind too. All I know is that 100% of the time I knew where he was on the floor last night.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 28, 2015 15:55:57 GMT -5
The Fro needs to declare after this year. Is he the best pro prospect in the A10 and City 6? He's really been playing on a high level for a non-competitive team... Is Hilliard better? No. Bembry is a monster. He is a better player than Hilliard. Pro prospect yet but I would be worried about his size. If he continues to develop his outside shot he is a no-brainer NBA player. If not, he is in Europe. He has really improved his shot. I love the kid. Plays hard.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 28, 2015 16:14:02 GMT -5
I would love Bembry on my team any day of the week...Like Mik said, he plays hard, can play inside or out. Best player in the A10 and Big 5.
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Post by goexplorers on Jan 28, 2015 16:21:52 GMT -5
He reminds me of Wayne Ellington. If he's able to bulk up a little, he'll be able to make a nice career in the league. He's got a nose for the ball, he plays D, he shoots really well, he's athletic...would love to have him on my team.
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Post by coachd on Jan 28, 2015 16:25:23 GMT -5
That is my point, he is such a distant memory that no one remembers how to spell his name.
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Post by coqui900 on Jan 28, 2015 16:26:43 GMT -5
Phil at his scumbag throw-a-kid under worst:
With the Hawks trailing, 49-46, and 16 seconds left, Miles got an offensive rebound and tried to throw it back out for a three. Amar Stukes picked it off.
"That's my fault," Martelli said. "He hasn't been coached well enough if he didn't realize that was a layup opportunity to cut it to one. He threw the ball backwards."
(No doubt said with sarcasm.)
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Post by MisterD on Jan 28, 2015 17:06:17 GMT -5
Contrast that quote with Giannini's sideline demeanor and tell me which is more toxic.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 28, 2015 17:06:32 GMT -5
That is my point, he is such a distant memory that no one remembers how to spell his name. Oh Steev.
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Post by golasalle on Jan 28, 2015 17:08:59 GMT -5
Contrast that quote with Giannini's sideline demeanor and tell me which is more toxic. You can also add some of St. Phil's precious comments throwing his players under the bus after the Penn game. He is just delightful.
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Post by SICguy84 on Jan 28, 2015 22:01:37 GMT -5
Phillip on Palestra. He is just as hypocritical as the team's fans. “The purist in me says that this game should be in this building with half the crowd for one team and half the crowd for the other,” Phil Martelli said after his team’s 56-52 loss to Penn at the Palestra. “It’s really above my pay scale on who makes those determinations.” “If you wanted to do it, you would have to lock the doors and bring in five presidents, five athletic directors, five coaches and five power brokers, one from each school and figure out a way to do it.” cityofbasketballlove.com/2015/01/albert-bring-big-5-games-back-to-the-palestra/
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 28, 2015 22:32:40 GMT -5
The issue is not making all Big 5 games at the Palestra, that ship has sailed. It's about this game- La Salle-St. Joe's, which had always been at the Palestra until a year ago. Way to deflect the issue Phil.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jan 28, 2015 22:37:35 GMT -5
Sadly, Phil's attempt at humor even fails because those that would make that decision are being paid far less than him.
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Post by jellybean on Jan 29, 2015 7:10:16 GMT -5
In the article that I read Phil never referred to us by name. He said "the other team." Am I correct?
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Post by MisterD on Jan 29, 2015 7:59:14 GMT -5
You know he's yelled at his grandson for imitating him.
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Post by 23won on Jan 29, 2015 8:14:18 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong about the comment
He's saying the suits make the decision and most of all 5 schools suits want to play at home.
If we wanted to lead by example we could play all Penn Games at Penn
Temple plays us at Penn
That would give us half and make the other two look bad
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Post by broderickpresident on Jan 29, 2015 8:50:26 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong about the comment He's saying the suits make the decision and most of all 5 schools suits want to play at home. If we wanted to lead by example we could play all Penn Games at Penn Temple plays us at Penn That would give us half and make the other two look bad The Trmple games at the Palestra was 2-yr thing to get game day. In town last year. As far as I know, it's back to business as usual next year, which is a shame. Those games had tremendous atmospheres
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jan 29, 2015 10:39:00 GMT -5
In the article that I read Phil never referred to us by name. He said "the other team." Am I correct? JB, if you're referring to the Daily News story, yes he mostly referred to us at the other team, but at the end he said "we led Duquesne, we led St. bonaventure and we led La Salle .... " I don't like him one bit, but I think that's one of his things. Does it after every game
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Post by golasalle on Jan 29, 2015 10:45:07 GMT -5
In the article that I read Phil never referred to us by name. He said "the other team." Am I correct? JB, if you're referring to the Daily News story, yes he mostly referred to us at the other team, but at the end he said "we led Duquesne, we led St. bonaventure and we led La Salle .... " I don't like him one bit, but I think that's one of his things. Does it after every game St. Phil, always the politician. General rule of politics, never mention your opponent by name, always refer to them as "my opponent." Using the name infers respect. Method to Phil's madness....
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Post by jellybean on Jan 29, 2015 11:29:01 GMT -5
I didn't read the DN article. It was either the INKY or one of the blogs like COB or Philahoops.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 29, 2015 12:31:56 GMT -5
Phillip on Palestra. He is just as hypocritical as the team's fans. “The purist in me says that this game should be in this building with half the crowd for one team and half the crowd for the other,” Phil Martelli said after his team’s 56-52 loss to Penn at the Palestra. “It’s really above my pay scale on who makes those determinations.” “If you wanted to do it, you would have to lock the doors and bring in five presidents, five athletic directors, five coaches and five power brokers, one from each school and figure out a way to do it.” cityofbasketballlove.com/2015/01/albert-bring-big-5-games-back-to-the-palestra/I don't have a problem with his comments here. I agree with him. The only thing that I will mention is, if we can't sell out a 3400 seat building vs. SJU, how the hell are we going to get anything close to 8700 asses in the Palestra?
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 29, 2015 12:53:33 GMT -5
We do it every year we play them there. Or damn close.
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Post by goexplorers on Jan 29, 2015 12:58:51 GMT -5
The Palestra is a draw. Saturdays are a draw. Doing it on a weeknight, at Gola, sucks. People who live outside of 45 minutes away aren't coming on a Tuesday night, but you can get a 2-3 hour radius on a Saturday.
Plus they did that package to eliminate SJU fans and get LU fans to more than just the SJU game. They didn't make single game tixx available until a week or so beforehand.
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Post by golasalle on Jan 29, 2015 13:47:42 GMT -5
The Palestra is a draw. Saturdays are a draw. Doing it on a weeknight, at Gola, sucks. People who live outside of 45 minutes away aren't coming on a Tuesday night, but you can get a 2-3 hour radius on a Saturday. Plus they did that package to eliminate SJU fans and get LU fans to more than just the SJU game. They didn't make single game tixx available until a week or so beforehand. I think the weather played a role as well. Even though we were spared Snow-pocalyps, I think a lot of people were concerned about driving conditions, especially at night.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 14:59:04 GMT -5
Phil is such a hypocrite. Both games against St Joe's would be at the Palestra if he would have agreed to it. Two years in a row he wouldn't give up his game at Hagan. G was willing to move our home game to the Palestra as long as St Joe's would do the same. Don't believe the bullsh*t about the higher-ups making the decision.
Instead of two sellouts at the Palestra, we end up with empty seats at 3,400 and 4,000 seat "arenas". All because of Phil. If there were 50 Hawk fans at Gola the other night, that was a lot.
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Post by coqui900 on Jan 29, 2015 15:20:37 GMT -5
"This banner works better at The Palestra, Phil."
Or a more basic "This game should be at The Palestra, Phil."
- Sign ideas I am pitching for a student to steal.
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Post by coqui900 on Jan 29, 2015 15:22:24 GMT -5
Also, is there any rivalry in the country where teams play each other twice in one year at a neutral site? That would stand out and constantly get mentioned. There's also a built in "revenge game" angle for the sequel.
This seriously NEEEEDDDS to happen!
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Post by SICguy84 on Jan 29, 2015 15:27:48 GMT -5
Should be on a Saturday and at Palestra. Good excuse to go down and have some drinks in University City.
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