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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 26, 2014 10:06:57 GMT -5
JP could turn out to be better than Rodney Green and has a better supporting cast than Rodney ever did.
I had a sense the offense would come on at some point and it would happen quickly
If the core guys play like they did last night and the other guys like Stukes, Roberts and Petersen play like they have early, we will be in a position to compete with UVA Friday
Consistency is key with this team, as Mik said, this group will be a lot better in Jan and Feb... Docs teams typically get better as the year progresses and that should hold with this group too; the ceiling is very very high for them. If they can navigate the OOC reasonably well we could see a dark horse in the A10
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Post by explorerman on Nov 26, 2014 10:43:02 GMT -5
We are 4-0 against teams with a combined record of 5-13 which is horrible. Happy for team which won games it was supposed too but now they have to play real Div 1 teams in Virginia and Nova and it could get ugly. Hope to stay within 12-15 of Virginia, beat Rutgers/Vandy (most likely Rutgers) and maybe give Nova a tough game at home which would leave us at 5-2 or wishful thinking 6-1. Believe team has very good chance of going 9-4 or maybe 10-3 out of conference. If team ends up 10-3 OOC it must go 11-7 to have e reasonable chance at the end of season for Big Dance. Agree with this. I have a hard time seeing us being competitive against Virginia and Nova. Nova we may give them some trouble because it is home game and a Big 5 game and I think we will be sky high for that game but I worry about getting mauled by a defensive team like Virginia. Unlike the first 4 opponents Virginia will show us size and athleticism on the wings and we are going to have trouble running the 1 on 1 offense we tend to show and revert to often in games. Given that Jerrell and Zack are having trouble finishing around the basket we are going to struggle to score 50 points you would think in this game. The positive thing I see is this team should be much better in January and February than it is now. I our guards are going to get much better and you have to think Jerrell and Steve will find a more efficient game down the line than they are showing now. I will take being competitive on Friday at this point. I think we should beat Rutgers if we play them as I think Vandy will take care of them in the first game. Also G needs to have Stukes out there now (especially if he isn't going to play Shuler).. We need to have some semblence of a perimeter game because UVA can simply collapse on Price and force DJP and Lewis to shoot... Flat out, if this team is going to reach their goal of the Dance, they need the high ceiling players like Roberts and Stukes to play up their ability. Roberts outside of 1 game really hasn't but he has shown flashes. Stukes also the same but he gets more play and has shown more of both great and questionable plays.. The ability to hit a shot and drive off the dribble. UVA has a lefty wing, Anderson, that I believe could be taken off the dribble, I would be focus on iso'ing him..
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Post by 1stflooredwards on Nov 26, 2014 10:47:56 GMT -5
Stukes is better suited to run this team. He is a true point guard. Khalid should be coming off the bench to provide a spark in our offense, as he does have the ability to get by his defender and drive to hole. My issue is him over using his cross over to do that. Against better competition that will be a turnover almost every time. When has Khalid ever shown any spark on the offensive end?
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 26, 2014 11:02:50 GMT -5
That's about all you can say about this one. They've played good defense while compiling a paper-thin 4-0 start. Now it's time to take that defense out for a spin against Virginia, Rutgers/Vanderbilt, and Villanova.
We'll see. Knock it off with the large font. Next time, there'll be no next time.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 26, 2014 11:14:40 GMT -5
Stukes is better suited to run this team. He is a true point guard. Khalid should be coming off the bench to provide a spark in our offense, as he does have the ability to get by his defender and drive to hole. My issue is him over using his cross over to do that. Against better competition that will be a turnover almost every time. When has Khalid ever shown any spark on the offensive end? Scoring isn't my concern with Khalid. He dribbles too much and is careless with the ball. If he doesn't score and doesn't set-up his team for better shots I don't think he should be running the point. I like his "D" so I think there is a role for him but not running the show. I think G is fitting the square peg in the round hole again.
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Post by lwc4591 on Nov 26, 2014 11:21:09 GMT -5
Khalid's game is defense if you happen to get a little offense thank your lucky stars. Last night I think his line was 0-5 from the floor, 5 rebounds and 4 turnovers against an inferior opponent while Amar played a solid amount and Johnnie and Tony barely stepped on the floor. Good old G is at it again playing his loyalty game when players like Shuler and Washington should be playing more particularly when up by 12, 14, 16 points. We will pay for this next season if G doesn't change his approach which I believe or at least hope he will as we move deeper into the schedule.
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Post by 1stflooredwards on Nov 26, 2014 11:51:24 GMT -5
Bottom line, IMO, is that Stukes needs to play the bulk of the minutes.
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Post by SICguy84 on Nov 26, 2014 11:53:17 GMT -5
Good old G is at it again playing his loyalty game when players like Shuler and Washington should be playing more particularly when up by 12, 14, 16 points. Game gets out of hand on Friday, Shuler gets serious minutes?
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Post by heftyexpl on Nov 26, 2014 13:39:51 GMT -5
Stukes is better suited to run this team. He is a true point guard. Khalid should be coming off the bench to provide a spark in our offense, as he does have the ability to get by his defender and drive to hole. My issue is him over using his cross over to do that. Against better competition that will be a turnover almost every time. When has Khalid ever shown any spark on the offensive end? I believe the first two games he led our team in scoring for about the first 10minutes. He has the ability, however I'm not calling him Jamal Crawford if that was your interpretation. But I have seen him pull up for a three and knock it down. Or take his man off the dribble and drive to the hoop. He has good ball handling skills but as explorer88 said he dribbles too much and tries to get fancy. I do love his aggressiveness on D. I think he's better suited to come off the bench. Or start him, stukes , price zack and wright.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 26, 2014 14:12:19 GMT -5
Garland had 30-4-3 last year versus VCU.
Terrific all around game by Price last night. He didn't get down on himself early when the shots weren't dropping. Didn't let it effect the rest of his game.
Lewis does not seem to make everyone around him better. Tough to see a PG with only 5 assists after 4 games. G seemed to give some of his minutes to Stukes.
Anyone surprised that Shuler was almost non-existant against St. Francis who had two small quick guards that did most of damage against us? It seemed like La Salle never figured out that SFU ran those guards off a high post pick. They got to the lane for a shot or dish to an open wing or player at the top of the key. I wish G would incorporate that into our system...that is if we have a system.
Finally, can our defenders NOT jump or leap through the air to try and block a 3. I can't tell you the last time they ever blocked a 3 but I know this year we have fouled the shooter three times already and that seems to be at a greater pace than last years.
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Post by thehawkisdead on Nov 26, 2014 14:21:18 GMT -5
Rodney (twice) and Steve smith in the CCSU marathon being the other 2 Ramon had 31 against VCU. Not to belabor this, but I'm going to belabor this. He's the 3rd player to do it since 96-97. I assumed, somewhat logically, that means someone did it in 96-97, and the most likely person to have done it that season was Donnie Carr. Now, it would seem, 96-97 was randomly used as the starting point for this count. I'm sitting here thinking they don't have any records prior to 96-97, because the records were destroyed (accidentally or intentionally) during the Hayman renovation, which took place from 96 to 98. How "La Salle" of them would that be?
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Post by broderickpresident on Nov 26, 2014 17:10:10 GMT -5
Ramon had 31 against VCU. Not to belabor this, but I'm going to belabor this. He's the 3rd player to do it since 96-97. I assumed, somewhat logically, that means someone did it in 96-97, and the most likely person to have done it that season was Donnie Carr. Now, it would seem, 96-97 was randomly used as the starting point for this count. I'm sitting here thinking they don't have any records prior to 96-97, because the records were destroyed (accidentally or intentionally) during the Hayman renovation, which took place from 96 to 98. How "La Salle" of them would that be? Nah, no one did it in 1996-97. The seemingly arbitrary endpoint there comes from the fact that this must have been researched thru the STATS Inc. database, which has complete player game logs back to 1996-97. The 2 others, like I had mentioned, were Rod and Steve. The whole 1996-97 thing certainly does make it sound weird, though.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Nov 26, 2014 17:37:30 GMT -5
[quote author=" broderickpresident" The seemingly arbitrary endpoint there comes from the fact that this must have been researched thru the STATS Inc. database, which has complete player game logs back to 1996-97. The 2 others, like I had mentioned, were Rod and Steve. The whole 1996-97 thing certainly does make it sound weird, though.[/quote] That's probably when they started doing their stuff on the internet and just never transferred their old data to an online component. Just a guess.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 26, 2014 18:20:10 GMT -5
and the piss and moaning continues.
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Post by thehawkisdead on Nov 26, 2014 19:51:46 GMT -5
and the piss and moaning continues. We wouldn't have a board with out it! Shit, there probably wouldn't even be an internet.
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Post by broderickpresident on Nov 26, 2014 21:52:43 GMT -5
[quote author=" broderickpresident" The seemingly arbitrary endpoint there comes from the fact that this must have been researched thru the STATS Inc. database, which has complete player game logs back to 1996-97. The 2 others, like I had mentioned, were Rod and Steve. The whole 1996-97 thing certainly does make it sound weird, though. That's probably when they started doing their stuff on the internet and just never transferred their old data to an online component. Just a guess.[/quote] The company itself isn't much older than that. Box score lines older than that are generally just filed away in filing cabinets of the schools unless it's a big-time program that has created its own database (some of the ACC and B10 schools, in particular, have impressive DBs on their sites). But schools mostly weren't even counting things like assists (let alone blocks, steals, TOs, etc) until the mid-80s. For instance, I don't think assists were an official NCAA statistic until 1986-86 or thereabouts, meaning Magic Johnson technically never had an official triple-double at MSU (same with Oscar Robertson at Cincy). I'd love to see La Salle digitize its old stuff. Not many programs have had more historically significant players. Would be cool to pull up old boxes for L-Train, Brooks, Durrett, Gola, etc, easily. A few years ago I noticed Simmons was missing from the NCAA Record book for most career double-doubles and emailed La Salle to see if they could send his total to the NCAA for inclusion. La Salle was great about it and they went through all of his old boxes and sent it to the NCAA and now he's in the record book and showed up on TV a bunch when Kenneth Faried was chasing the record a few years back. If they have Brooks and Gola's #s, I'm sure they would also be on the all-time leaderboard, as well, but I have no idea how readily available those things are.
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Post by mookie on Nov 27, 2014 11:44:35 GMT -5
When has Khalid ever shown any spark on the offensive end? I believe the first two games he led our team in scoring for about the first 10minutes. He has the ability, however I'm not calling him Jamal Crawford if that was your interpretation. But I have seen him pull up for a three and knock it down. Or take his man off the dribble and drive to the hoop. He has good ball handling skills but as explorer88 said he dribbles too much and tries to get fancy. I do love his aggressiveness on D. I think he's better suited to come off the bench. Or start him, stukes , price zack and wright. Lewis has really good ball handling abilities but as 88 pointed out, he overdribbles. He's your classic streetballer, really good handles but very suspect shot and decision making. You're going to see games where they can be unstoppable but 90% of their games will be one dimensional. He's definitely got a role on this team as a defensive pest and a fill-in for when the starter needs a break but he's not suited for major minutes or core player. Lewis is most effective when teams are playing on edge, basically the rest of the team is keeping the D on their toes where jumpers are being hit and teams are worried about all 5 players on the court. That opens up the lane for Lewis to drive and finish or drive and dish. His success is dependent upon others... He can be mistaken for an offensive player or spark because he's quick and can find a way to the rim...unfortunately, he's unable to finish a good amount of time.
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Post by explorerman on Nov 27, 2014 13:46:06 GMT -5
I believe the first two games he led our team in scoring for about the first 10minutes. He has the ability, however I'm not calling him Jamal Crawford if that was your interpretation. But I have seen him pull up for a three and knock it down. Or take his man off the dribble and drive to the hoop. He has good ball handling skills but as explorer88 said he dribbles too much and tries to get fancy. I do love his aggressiveness on D. I think he's better suited to come off the bench. Or start him, stukes , price zack and wright. Lewis has really good ball handling abilities but as 88 pointed out, he overdribbles. He's your classic streetballer, really good handles but very suspect shot and decision making. You're going to see games where they can be unstoppable but 90% of their games will be one dimensional. He's definitely got a role on this team as a defensive pest and a fill-in for when the starter needs a break but he's not suited for major minutes or core player. Lewis is most effective when teams are playing on edge, basically the rest of the team is keeping the D on their toes where jumpers are being hit and teams are worried about all 5 players on the court. That opens up the lane for Lewis to drive and finish or drive and dish. His success is dependent upon others... He can be mistaken for an offensive player or spark because he's quick and can find a way to the rim...unfortunately, he's unable to finish a good amount of time. Good and well throughout post
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