Stukes production

[jellybean]

I wanted to get thoughts on what are expectations for him this season. I will use Tyreke Duren's FR season as a fair benchmark. Would you be happy with matching those numbers? 80%? 70%? Higher than Duren's FR year?

Duren 33-30 1115/33.8 105-233 .451 17-53 .321 95-122 .779 93rebs 2.8 146a-88to 9blk 62stl 322pts 9.8

My feeling today is 66.6 to 70% of that benchmark would roughly be 22.5 mins 6.5pts 2 rebs 100a/60to 40stl 215 6.5

The reason I say 66.6 to 70% is because I think Lewis and Shuler will find time at PG (take the remaining 17.5 mins). I don't see two of the three playing together too much with shooters like Price and Roberts and hopefully Goodman.

[explorerman]

Depends on his jump shot development.. If he hasn't improved then he is in trouble..

Next year if the wings shoot as well as we believe they can then the PG should have some open looks for 3. Which guard is going to make those open looks?

Shuler was an above average perimeter and free throw shooter in HS.

Stukes was neither but has the advantage to develop and work on his game for a season.

[broderickpresident]

I'd be thrilled with anything nearing a 2:1 assist/to ratio

[luhoopsfan]

Seems to me like we're going to have plenty of guys with the ability to put the ball in the basket next year in a variety of ways (Perimeter, Drive, Post) and for me, all i care about is a PG that can facilitate that offense well and not turn the ball over or give the ball to guys in bad spots that ultimately leads to THEM turning it over. I look for production to come from Stukes in terms of assists and defense. Let guys like Roberts, Price, Wright and maybe/hopefully Goodman be you primary scorers. Shuler, Stukes, Zack, Peterson, Brown, Davis can be guys that all do certain things for you on the floor other than scoring. Shuler/Stukes as your PGs, Zack as your true center Big Man to rebound, block shots, set screens and put back O-Rebs, Peterson and Brown to defens and rebound and Davis to spell Wright or Zack for 10 mins a game would be an ideal use of the players in my mind.

[MisterD]

Apr 12, 2014 17:55:23 GMT -5 broderickpresident said:

I'd be thrilled with anything nearing a 2:1 assist/to ratio

Given that Duren was at 1.86 last year? Absolutely.

[lwc4591]

Hoopsfan don't forget about T.Washington who could surprise.

[sweat83]

What about K. Lewis? Did he leave, or is he just destined to be a non-factor next year?

[a10champion15]

Apr 14, 2014 12:32:25 GMT -5 sweat83 said:

What about K. Lewis? Did he leave, or is he just destined to be a non-factor next year?

I think he will be a major factor next year. We never got a real look at what type of player he is. Also, there didn't seem to be a defined role for him which was a problem with this year. He played some games really well and is hands down our best defender. However he was fighting off injuries most of the season and his shot suffered as a result. I think he will improve just a matter of how much.

Just going to say this of we are able to land goodman, this could be one hell of a team.

[luhoopsfan]

Apr 14, 2014 11:45:04 GMT -5 lwc4591 said:

Hoopsfan don't forget about T.Washington who could surprise.

Jesus Christo!

Good call, and I forgot about Khalid Lewis. Man, this team is really deep next year at just about every position. Will be interesting to see what kind of chemistry and flow they can generate. Let's dream and pretend Goodman comes to 20th and Olney

PG: Shuler, Stukes, Lewis
SG: Price, Roberts
SF: Goodman, Peterson, Brown
PF: Wright, Washington
C: Zack, Davis

I know some of those guys can play multiple positions, but one could argue that we are 2 deep at every position except maybe Center.

This program has come a long, long way since 2004.

A floor set of Shuler, Price, Roberts, Goodman and Wright would be a very athletic and entertaining group.

[MisterD]

If all are as billed, I'd want 3 PG/SG on the floor most of the time. Looks like a couple solid upperclassmen will have a bit of a numbers squeeze in a (macro) best case scenario.

[explorerman]

Apr 14, 2014 13:30:49 GMT -5 luhoopsfan said:

Apr 14, 2014 11:45:04 GMT -5 lwc4591 said:

Hoopsfan don't forget about T.Washington who could surprise.

Jesus Christo!

Good call, and I forgot about Khalid Lewis. Man, this team is really deep next year at just about every position. Will be interesting to see what kind of chemistry and flow they can generate. Let's dream and pretend Goodman comes to 20th and Olney

PG: Shuler, Stukes, Lewis
SG: Price, Roberts
SF: Goodman, Peterson, Brown
PF: Wright, Washington
C: Zack, Davis

I know some of those guys can play multiple positions, but one could argue that we are 2 deep at every position except maybe Center.

This program has come a long, long way since 2004.

A floor set of Shuler, Price, Roberts, Goodman and Wright would be a very athletic and entertaining group.

This will be the fairly interesting part… If Goodman jumps in the squad, we are talking about adding the most athletic big man (taller than 6'7) since probably Vernon..

I would be fairly intrigued by this playing time situation… I feel most on this board overrate the abilities of our big men, while Goodman is no perfect college big man he would represent an upgrade in athleticism over Wright and Zack. It was mentioned on his board earlier by a poster that a knock against Goodman is that he plays more like a guard than a low post player (by not playing in the paint but around the perimeter). No competitive basketball team can afford to have one of their big men on the outside when a shot goes up. Players are too athletic now to have 1 player battle 2 or 3 players for a rebound.

A big man with the ability to shoot in the 2012-13 offense would have absolutely lethal…

Imagine this lineup Stukes (6'3), Shuler (5'11), Roberts (6'5), Price (6'5) and Goodman (6'8)…

I seriously would have no idea how you would stop that offense… Dribble penetration and shooting from all 5 positions with post up ability at the guard position from Price (which would be a mismatch in itself against another guard). Before people say that this team would be too small, remember the sizes of the players during the NCAA run this projected lineup would be 5-6' inches TALLER than that team...

[1801olney]

Apr 14, 2014 12:40:36 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

Apr 14, 2014 12:32:25 GMT -5 sweat83 said:

What about K. Lewis? Did he leave, or is he just destined to be a non-factor next year?

I think he will be a major factor next year. We never got a real look at what type of player he is. Also, there didn't seem to be a defined role for him which was a problem with this year. He played some games really well and is hands down our best defender. However he was fighting off injuries most of the season and his shot suffered as a result. I think he will improve just a matter of how much.

Just going to say this of we are able to land goodman, this could be one hell of a team.

What exactly gave you the impression that Lewis will be a "major factor" next year? I just dont see it. He wasnt great at Delaware (he had the game of his life against La Salle so everyone was really high on him) and did nothing last year that made me think he can be a major factor at this level. Delaware seemed to be ok without him....

[jellybean]

Just to remind everyone. God willing Goodman comes to La Salle. Think of him as a 6-9 GUARD. Okay SG or SF. He would be in his own category. I believe you have to go back to Joe Bryant to see someone 6-9 with these set of skills on the perimeter. (JB at 6-10 played C at La Salle and outside in the Pro's.)

[goexplorers]

Goodman sounds like the type of player on UMass' squad this year...like Putman or someone like that. I'm not sure I'm nuts about those types of guys. Too many bad shots that disrupt the flow of the offense.

[calidelphia]

I can think of one player for la salle in the last 3 years that was about 6-10, hung out around the perimeter and sometimes thought he was a guard. Before him there was Rasual who never played as a guard but could shoot the lights out similarly at 6-7.

[luhoopsfan]

I would take ol' Razzle himself any day in this program.

[ck]

So what are the chances of Jordan Goodman choosing La salle? Apparently he's had offers from Temple, New Mexico, and Oklahoma State, among others. And does he have a good outside shot? It would be something to have a 6.8 guard knocking down threes.

[jellybean]

Murray in no way has Goodman's ball handling ability.

As for chances, he was on an official this past weekend. Temple just before the Final Four. Not sure if he will visit others although New Mexico seems to be trying to get him out there.

He is legit 6-9.

[coachd]

I think now that he sees what we have, he will seize the opportunity to help lead this team back to NCAA Tournament.

[a10champion15]

Apr 14, 2014 14:40:45 GMT -5 1801olney said:

Apr 14, 2014 12:40:36 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

I think he will be a major factor next year. We never got a real look at what type of player he is. Also, there didn't seem to be a defined role for him which was a problem with this year. He played some games really well and is hands down our best defender. However he was fighting off injuries most of the season and his shot suffered as a result. I think he will improve just a matter of how much.

Just going to say this of we are able to land goodman, this could be one hell of a team.

What exactly gave you the impression that Lewis will be a "major factor" next year? I just dont see it. He wasnt great at Delaware (he had the game of his life against La Salle so everyone was really high on him) and did nothing last year that made me think he can be a major factor at this level. Delaware seemed to be ok without him....

Just like what I saw, great defender and I think his shooting was a problem assisted by his broken wrist early on. Don't think it is fair to rule him out as a "significant" contributor 15-20 mins after one year where he had injury issues and shown he was capable in a couple A10 games, such as UMass and VCU. Also, he is only a sophomore, there was no clear role for him last year, and I don't think he really blended with the guards last year. Lets just say I have a little faith he will improve on the offensive end next year. Always feel like sophomore year to junior year is when players make the biggest leap in their play and I think Khalid could be one of those players.

[a10champion15]

Apr 14, 2014 15:40:48 GMT -5 jellybean said:

Murray in no way has Goodman's ball handling ability.

As for chances, he was on an official this past weekend. Temple just before the Final Four. Not sure if he will visit others although New Mexico seems to be trying to get him out there.

He is legit 6-9.

Also, I know that he is leaning to stay in Philly. Most of his family is located in the city. 

It is going to come down to us or Temple so we shall see.

[sweat83]

Apr 14, 2014 14:40:45 GMT -5 1801olney said:

Apr 14, 2014 12:40:36 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

I think he will be a major factor next year. We never got a real look at what type of player he is. Also, there didn't seem to be a defined role for him which was a problem with this year. He played some games really well and is hands down our best defender. However he was fighting off injuries most of the season and his shot suffered as a result. I think he will improve just a matter of how much.

Just going to say this of we are able to land goodman, this could be one hell of a team.

What exactly gave you the impression that Lewis will be a "major factor" next year? I just dont see it. He wasnt great at Delaware (he had the game of his life against La Salle so everyone was really high on him) and did nothing last year that made me think he can be a major factor at this level. Delaware seemed to be ok without him....

Lewis was a disappointment this year. I personally expected more production from him, but his FG% sucked. G gave him minutes through mid season, but the production just wasn't there, and his PT diminished. He's got nice size for a guard, and I saw some him create nice plays last year, but just too inconsistent. He'll need to work hard during the off season.
Lewis was a Frosh at Delaware. Would't expect much from a frosh at any D-1 school. Even UD. But it's make or break for him in 2014-15

[broderickpresident]

Hard to compete with dirty programs like Oklahoma state and New Mexico

[blueandgold]

Goodman's twitter plus folks all over in past couple hours mention he will be visiting New Mexico shortly. This summary is helpful.

From everything I gather (mostly outside Explorertown), seems he is likely to come to Philly. Can anyone confirm if Maryland has any scholarships left?

I have to think we offer an attractive situation with obvious need for a SF with overall an experienced team plus what I think (knock on wood) will turn out to be a better group of guards than even last few years (with or without Ramon).

thelobolair.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53195&s=9692439760df57d8b1a1bb7f523db2ef

[broderickpresident]

Maryland has had 3 players decide to transfer, so they should have some schollies available

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Apr 14, 2014 16:24:07 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

Apr 14, 2014 15:40:48 GMT -5 jellybean said:

Murray in no way has Goodman's ball handling ability.

As for chances, he was on an official this past weekend. Temple just before the Final Four. Not sure if he will visit others although New Mexico seems to be trying to get him out there.

He is legit 6-9.

Also, I know that he is leaning to stay in Philly. Most of his family is located in the city. 

It is going to come down to us or Temple so we shall see.

Not sure where you're getting your info from, but I'm 99.999% sure that Jordan Goodman does not have family in the Phila area. Jordan grew up in Florida and went to high school in the MD/DC area.

And if you think it's down to La Salle and Temple and he wants to stay in the area, then why is he taking an official visit to New Mexico this weekend?

I think you're confusing him with Savon Goodman, who Temple is considering bringing in as a transfer from UNLV. Savon is a Philly kid who played in the Public League and at Academy of the New Church.

[a10champion15]

Apr 15, 2014 13:50:38 GMT -5 @kjmac12 said:

Apr 14, 2014 16:24:07 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

Also, I know that he is leaning to stay in Philly. Most of his family is located in the city. 

It is going to come down to us or Temple so we shall see.

Not sure where you're getting your info from, but I'm 99.999% sure that Jordan Goodman does not have family in the Phila area. Jordan grew up in Florida and went to high school in the MD/DC area.

And if you think it's down to La Salle and Temple and he wants to stay in the area, then why is he taking an official visit to New Mexico this weekend?

I think you're confusing him with Savon Goodman, who Temple is considering bringing in as a transfer from UNLV. Savon is a Philly kid who played in the Public League and at Academy of the New Church.

“@beengettinchose: Livin In Philly nobody understand Me. And They Always Tellin Me im Country. Smh”

There multiple tweets about philly and at his sister specifically talking about philly. Not sure who and how many family members are in philly but clearly he has "some" family here. My guess some family lives up there seeing that he was at harcum. 

Also he tweeted Maryland isn't recruiting him but he love to be a terp. 

[Deleted]

Apr 15, 2014 14:44:53 GMT -5 a10champion15 said:

Apr 15, 2014 13:50:38 GMT -5 @kjmac12 said:

Not sure where you're getting your info from, but I'm 99.999% sure that Jordan Goodman does not have family in the Phila area. Jordan grew up in Florida and went to high school in the MD/DC area.

And if you think it's down to La Salle and Temple and he wants to stay in the area, then why is he taking an official visit to New Mexico this weekend?

I think you're confusing him with Savon Goodman, who Temple is considering bringing in as a transfer from UNLV. Savon is a Philly kid who played in the Public League and at Academy of the New Church.

“@beengettinchose: Livin In Philly nobody understand Me. And They Always Tellin Me im Country. Smh”

There multiple tweets about philly and at his sister specifically talking about philly. Not sure who and how many family members are in philly but clearly he has "some" family here. My guess some family lives up there seeing that he was at harcum. 

You're kidding, right? Your source is his Twitter page?

He tweets about Philly because he goes to school in the immediate vicinity. Not once did he mention his family is living in the Phila area or he is leaning towards transferring to one of the local 4 year colleges, so I'm not sure how you know he "clearly" has family here and will probably pick between La Salle and Temple.

So which is it, do you "guess" some of his family lives here, do some of them "clearly" live here, or does "most" of his family live here like you stated in an earlier post.

What is clear is that you (and probably no one else other than his close friends) have no idea about his family or which way he's leaning. It would be great to get a commitment from him, but he's doing a great job of taking his time and keeping his thoughts on the recruiting process close to the vest while getting his visits in.

[MisterD]

There's actually more kids from MD on Harcum's roster than PA. That seems weird.