Freshmen and Sophomores forced to live on campus

[20thandolney]

What a disgrace. 

clubs.lasalle.edu/collegian/?cat=10445A

[expbrady03]

The only disgrace I see here is the use of the term "Big 6" yuck...

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[durenduren]

Going to go with "not a big deal" for 500, Alex. Lucky we can even do that, other schools aren't able to provide that.

[explorerman]

Yeah I don't get what the big deal is…

[theneumann64]

This is one of those things where I don't love the principle, but I like what it will do for the school. Keep kids on campus nights and weekends. That said, might hurt a lot of local kids who want to commute. I think it's a sacrifice worth making.

[theneumann64]

Oh, I just read the article and now I do hate it honestly. It's just aimed at kids who live off campus. Don't like. Will elaborate more later.

[MisterD]

File me under don't mind it / understand it. Housing is a big part of a campus and if you aren't filling housing, you're losing a ton of revenue.

[durenduren]

It's all about revenue. End of the day it's a business, so I get it.

We could be like Temple where housing is guaranteed for only 1 year.

[SICguy84]

How will this be enforced? University officials following students home to make sure they are sleeping under same roof as mom and dad? Honor system that kids will not claim to be commuters while "commuting"/living on Uber, Wister or 20th Streets?

[Gnocchi]

Overbrook has the same policy.

'Nuf said...

[calidelphia]

This is def in the wrong area of the site.

Alas, this has really bad implications for any kids that may have any sort of violations. In my experience at la salle the biggest penalty before expulsion was revoking on campus housing privileges. Now anyone who gets in trouble in the dorms is liable to get kicked straight out of school. This counts for anything like multiple noise violations etc.

To require students to live in campus housing and eat the B&G food (read gruel circa 99') is an admission that perceived value is lower than the cost.

On the positive, there will be a much more active on campus life. Something I aimed for when I was there, home being 3.5 hours away.

Is this due to Freshman and sophomore students moving to ogontz manor and off campus homes?
Is there a vacancy problem in the dorms?
are students learning to cook and being healthy and budget conscious?
Is B&G unable to operate profitably without being required?

All I know is that if there is no choice by the client/ student/ customer, then there is no motivation for the service or product to improve and there may be a reason if students are looking for alternatives.

[theneumann64]

Just FYI, anything relating to the University at large can comfortably go in here, as it is the main board. I'm even fine with any Explorer sports stuff going in here, as long as it's not too much. For example, the "Fall Sports Thread" could have gone in here and it'd have been fine. A thread on every soccer game would probably be overdoing it, and should go in the other part of the site.

Something about like the Eagles (band or football team) always belongs on the other board, but it's about La Salle, it's generally going to be OK in here.

[lasallescreamer]

Just another of the growing infringements on liberty in USA.What if we have a returning soldier who does not live w folks but has a place in NE Philly. Does he have to sell his home and move on campus. Lots of other issues.I think its embarrassing.

[SICguy84]

Hmmm Aramark somehow involved with the suggestion of this new policy?

[durenduren]

Nov 21, 2013 20:31:23 GMT -5 lasallescreamer said:

Just another of the growing infringements on liberty in USA.What if we have a returning soldier who does not live w folks but has a place in NE Philly. Does he have to sell his home and move on campus. Lots of other issues.I think its embarrassing.

that's called a commuter student. this only applies to students requesting to live "on campus" as a freshman. There's ways to skirt this if you think about it.

[MisterD]

And why do we infringe on students' rights by forcing them to take religious classes, right???

[lasallerules1978]

Nov 21, 2013 22:28:10 GMT -5 MisterD said:

And why do we infringe on students' rights by forcing them to take religious classes, right???[/

Because its part of our philosophy. Stupid is as stupid does. I love sarcasm. People can disagree with a new policy it's part of what makes us human beings.

[gymrat67]

Nov 21, 2013 20:27:54 GMT -5 theneumann64 said:

Just FYI, anything relating to the University at large can comfortably go in here, as it is the main board. I'm even fine with any Explorer sports stuff going in here, as long as it's not too much. For example, the "Fall Sports Thread" could have gone in here and it'd have been fine. A thread on every soccer game would probably be overdoing it, and should go in the other part of the site.

Something about like the Eagles (band or football team) always belongs on the other board, but it's about La Salle, it's generally going to be OK in here.

Sorry Neumann but, with all due respect, I completely disagree with this sudden, unilateral change of philosophy. IMO this thread belongs on the " Other Discussion " board, as did the earlier thread about a private developer building an apartments complex just off campus. As it's name clearly connotes, this is the La Salle basketball messageboard. To now open this board up to " anything related to the University " represents a significant departure from the original ground rules which should at least be put to a vote of all board members. I would like to see / hear how others weigh in on this subject. Many thanks. Gymrat67

[durenduren]

Christ, everyone's losing their cool over the dumbest stuff lately. Who gives a damn what part of the forum it's in, not like the internet can inconvenience you that much. Smile folks, come on.

Thanks much. The Hamburglar.

[jellybean]

I read the Collegian piece about the new Business School. To paraphrase, they raised a concern that with the new buildings ( Science and Business) that University was placing a greater emphasis on "occupations" rather than Liberal Arts.

If I have time I will either post the link or get the paragraph from the paper.

[Deleted]

So much as I understood, this policy has long been in place for freshmen, and they are extending the rule to include sophomore year. Reasons could include:
1. Dorm/cafeteria Vacancies demand it. The opposite problem of when I attended which was when a students needed to acquire "points" for the privilege of renting on campus apartment/townhouse and in particular the one of your 1st or 2nd choosing.

2. Students may have left housing before age 21 to skirt the strict on campus alcohol policy

3. They may try to justify the position by using "studies" of academic and social benefits to common housing (though, different people are motivated differently and I myself have never conformed to any study group). This is a case of what (may be) best for a few is best for all, and La Salle has no wherewithal for enforcing off campus housing of sophs on a case by case basis (especially if that may be perceived as discrimination).



A lot of people on this thread assumed reason #1 triggered this policy to happen but I think #2 has a role in it as well.

[MisterD]

Nov 21, 2013 23:56:57 GMT -5 lasallerules1978 said:

Because its part of our philosophy. Stupid is as stupid does. I love sarcasm. People can disagree with a new policy it's part of what makes us human beings.

Just contending the "rights" angle. La Salle is voluntary, you follow La Salle's housing rules.