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Post by durenduren on Jun 19, 2013 15:40:27 GMT -5
What is the prognosis for the immediate neighborhood? The gentrification you spoke of isn't going that direction. The city isn't pumping money into that neighborhood like they are to areas like Powelton Village, University City, and Graduate Hospital/Point Breeze. Powelton is a slam dunk for the next big neighborhood, but even those less great areas are important to a city's fold. I'd wager that Olney will remain what it is. Olney only has La Salle, while the aforementioned areas having juggernauts like Penn, Drexel, CHOP, HUP, Presby, USciences, UArts, Hipsters, etc all fighting. It really is group effort here, I see it every day. And even with that, it's proving to be an uphill battle.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jun 19, 2013 16:55:26 GMT -5
I don't think Philadelphia has much chance at an Olympic bid, but DurenDuren is right about that creating a sort of outside force to get things done. I think there's always the temptation to get carried away, and I think one time we had basically a "build your dream arena" thread, which was right around the time of one of these massive lottery jackpots (which none of us won sadly), but I think being realistic is important. With regards to the bar/restaurant thing, it's not going to happen any time soon. Places like Chili's and Friday's aren't shy: if they think there's a market for something, they'll be there. The fact that there's nothing like that anywhere near La Salle isn't because no one has thought of it- the market can't support it. While I hate when the neighborhood gets vilified, you have to be fair. It's not a place where people are going to fill up a restaurant, even a "chain" one, every Friday and Saturday night year round. Ann having 15 or 16 basketball games a year there, when at least 7 or 8 of them are on weeknights, in the middle of Winter, doesn't change the equation. Are you really going to go Friday's on Wednesday, January 9th, at 9:30, after La Salle- James Madison, just because it's across the street? No: 90% of people are going straight home because they have to work in the morning. And let's face it, the school probably doesn't want a place with a liquor license that close anyway. Neumann, hate to burst your bubble, but I'd guess La Salle has its own liquor license. I went to The Prep and I know for a fact they have their own license to serve alcohol at alumni events like homecoming, though it is limited to five or six events a year.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 19, 2013 17:10:47 GMT -5
That doesn't "burst my bubble" at all. They totally control that and the few things that are open to students for alcohol are incredibly rigid. You can't get in if you're not 21. Some TGI Friday's is not likely to be quite so rigorous.
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Post by a10champion15 on Jun 19, 2013 18:19:17 GMT -5
It is not difficult to get in to those events.... I did it but controlled myself. BUT wait a bar where the church is. That is genius, everyone on campus wishes there was a bar cant believe finnegans didn't go for it.That place be packed not a doubt in my mind just got to control locals in there like Hofstra does. Great place to gather before a game and a great place to hold events.
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Post by coqui900 on Jun 20, 2013 8:53:19 GMT -5
That doesn't "burst my bubble" at all. They totally control that and the few things that are open to students for alcohol are incredibly rigid. You can't get in if you're not 21. Some TGI Friday's is not likely to be quite so rigorous. Of course, you could always do the following to handle official school events with liquor: 1) Have friends who work for student affairs who are placed in charge of distributing drink tickets so they give you unlimited drink tickets even though you're nowhere near 21 yet. 2) Find an honors event going on in Olney Hall with some seniors and recent alum. Hang out on the periphery to scope out the scene. See one of your favorite professors there who catches you in the act (and shall remain nameless) but nods his head and over-embellishes "looking the other way" allowing you to steal a few bottles of whiskey. 3) Hang out w/ some professors in the townhouses for a party involving the communication department when you're a freshman who blatantly ask you why you're not drinking. "Uhm, I'm a freshman." And then they laugh and one of them hands you a beer. All true stories. I did, however, get busted mixing rum and Cherry Coke in the food court once. By that, I was told by someone in food services to stop drinking so I just went to the computer lab and drank there instead. THANKS GARY AND MIKE!
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 20, 2013 9:09:39 GMT -5
You could probably use the same sentence to explain why a lot of this was verboten in my time there.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 20, 2013 9:54:38 GMT -5
I actually TRIED to get written up one year in the dorm by playing my stereo loudly with the door open and trash cans full of ice and beer - and couldn't get myself in trouble. I then was caught standing quietly in the hallway with a beer a few weeks later and got busted...bizarre.
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Post by coqui900 on Jun 20, 2013 10:23:06 GMT -5
It was absolutely spectacular what you could get away with at that school for a very long time.
The Sweet 16 was not the first time 20th and Olney was shut down. There was a bus party that a few hundred kids went to. I did not attend this event but did videotape the aftermath when these kids -- most of whom were more intoxicated than they ever were in their lives -- were dropped off at the same time. It was absolute madness. The cops had to come and shut down the intersection because of the chaos.
I do not have this videotape anymore. I showed it to my friends from home at my parents' house. My mom was babysitting neighborhood kids for extra money and used to sit them down to watch whatever cartoons or movies she had to sedate them. Low and behold, I forgot to switch out the tape. My mom didn't know this either and hit play and, as a result, a bunch of elementary school kids got to see a lot of body functions no one should be exposed to at any age. (And even though I was videotaping things, I was ridiculously drunk and foul-mouthed, which didn't make things better.)
She threw the tape out. It would have had a few hundred thousand hits on YouTube in the modern era.
Does anyone else now in their 30s remember:
1) The crazy fights two of the frats had that resulted in one kid going into a coma for a few days? I saw one of the fights and saw someone -- I think a kid who actually graduated who I vaguely remember may have also been a male cheerleader -- punch out a car window. Total chaos.
2) The girl who got kicked out of school for fighting a whole bunch of other girls one night that resulted in a lot of chaos in LA? It ended up in the local papers. (Uhm, the girl in question was one of my best friends.)
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Post by coachd on Jun 20, 2013 10:56:45 GMT -5
Some things are better off not being written about.
Let's write about the good times!
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Post by MisterD on Jun 20, 2013 19:09:42 GMT -5
Was her first and middle name "Crazy Soccer"?
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Post by thehawkisdead on Jun 20, 2013 20:56:35 GMT -5
Coqui, regarding the bus party you mention. Is that the same one that caused trouble for one of the on-campus priests because he actually went on the trip? Younger guy who didn't last very long after that incident. Spring 98 semester I believe.
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Post by coqui900 on Jun 21, 2013 0:25:30 GMT -5
MisterD -- YES.
THID -- There were a LOT of bus parties in that time frame. I don't know if the one I videotaped is the one in question but I vaguely remember hearing about that priest issue.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 21, 2013 7:53:18 GMT -5
1- I think this marks the first time a thread has veered off course and AWAY from facilities instead if how seemingly every other thread comes back to facilities. I find this new course to be much more entertaining
2- the bus party aftermath was always legendary- at the opening round game in Dayton I was talking to an alum from the 80s that said it was the same thing back the
3- looking back at la Salle in the mid/late 90s, the place was absolute mayhem on the weekends. It appears a much higher % of students stays on campus on weekends now than back then, but those of us who stuck around had an absolute blast every weekend. I'm not sure what the "scene" is these days but pretty much every Thursday-Saturday night had a multitude of options for your entertainment
4- I was at FIJI one night my freshman year when a massive brawl erupted in the middle of a party that was literally packed shoulder to shoulder. Talk about chaos and mayhem, I was on the stairs for some reason when it broke out and the crowd looked like the ocean moving back and forth with the tide as about 25 dudes were tearing each other apart. It then spilled out onto the street and got really ugly
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Post by coqui900 on Jun 21, 2013 8:46:26 GMT -5
1- I think this marks the first time a thread has veered off course and AWAY from facilities instead if how seemingly every other thread comes back to facilities. I find this new course to be much more entertaining 2- looking back at la Salle in the mid/late 90s, the place was absolute mayhem on the weekends. It appears a much higher % of students stays on campus on weekends now than back then, but those of us who stuck around had an absolute blast every weekend. I'm not sure what the "scene" is these days but pretty much every Thursday-Saturday night had a multitude of options for your entertainment This is not accidental on my part. I will do absolutely anything to get away from a facilities discussion. My wife went to school in DC. She and her friends once talked about how they had a wild "40s and shorties" party where they all drank 40s and the like. My response. "We called that Tuesday."
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Post by explorerman on Jun 21, 2013 9:08:21 GMT -5
1- I think this marks the first time a thread has veered off course and AWAY from facilities instead if how seemingly every other thread comes back to facilities. I find this new course to be much more entertaining 2- looking back at la Salle in the mid/late 90s, the place was absolute mayhem on the weekends. It appears a much higher % of students stays on campus on weekends now than back then, but those of us who stuck around had an absolute blast every weekend. I'm not sure what the "scene" is these days but pretty much every Thursday-Saturday night had a multitude of options for your entertainment This is not accidental on my part. I will do absolutely anything to get away from a facilities discussion. My wife went to school in DC. She and her friends once talked about how they had a wild "40s and shorties" party where they all drank 40s and the like. My response. "We called that Tuesday." YES
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Post by thehawkisdead on Jun 21, 2013 9:31:35 GMT -5
4- I was at FIJI one night my freshman year when a massive brawl erupted in the middle of a party that was literally packed shoulder to shoulder. Talk about chaos and mayhem, I was on the stairs for some reason when it broke out and the crowd looked like the ocean moving back and forth with the tide as about 25 dudes were tearing each other apart. It then spilled out onto the street and got really ugly Was there ever a phi kap party that didn't end that way? Perfect description by calling it the 'ocean' that moved all over the room. Best part is, and as scary as that could be, I don't remember anyone ever getting hurt when that happened. It's funny how quickly a bunch of drunk people can tire themselves out fighting. I started to see a change in the social scene my senior year (2000-01). By then it seems a lot of the Greek organizations had gone 'underground,' so instead of having the usual 'established' places to go, the underclassmen were always searching for someplace to go. Since these local chapters were now cut off from national, there really was no incentive for them to police the behavior at these parties, and they'd get out of hand quickly. Maybe I'm overanalyzing, but there definitely was a change. Luckily I was already 21 so I didn't have to find a kegger in order to drink. Kjmac is probably shocked to hear I engaged in such shenanigans!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 13:37:51 GMT -5
Kjmac is probably shocked to hear I engaged in such shenanigans! The security staff at Gola certainly knows about your "shenanigans".
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Post by big5explorer on Jun 24, 2013 14:04:51 GMT -5
A new arena seems like a dream, at least in the short term.
But why in the world can't they:
1. Have a memorabilia store on the ground level of Gola, to sell LaSalle gear to people pre- and post win? Or even have another place at halftime for people to congregate, and spend their money? ( They can use this room/area for other activities, meetings during the other 10 months of the year).
2. Have online ticket sales?
3. Have REAL concession stands? Or, here's an idea: more than one concession stand. I don't need cheesesteaks or crab fries, but some variety would be refreshing.
4. Have areas with looping video displays of historic LaSalle moments. Or, if not video, some sort of historic display. We're a Big 5 team, with a ton of history. Lets show it!
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jun 24, 2013 19:22:01 GMT -5
A new arena seems like a dream, at least in the short term. But why in the world can't they: 2. Have online ticket sales? This is unbelievable in this day and age anymore. Do you know how easy it is to do this today? It's ridiculously easy and requires minimal hardware and ZERO software.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jun 24, 2013 19:34:29 GMT -5
Yeah, this was touched on last year. No excuse for this in this day and age.
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Post by ncaabestin1969 on Jun 24, 2013 19:41:54 GMT -5
There is always an excuse for the "paycheck cashers".
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Post by a10champion15 on Jul 10, 2013 23:21:50 GMT -5
www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/071013aaa.htmlI know we beat this subject to death but I saw this today from Stony Brook, thought some of you would like to take a look. They invested 21 million in renovating a facility they currently had. They created 4,000 seats, some suites and updated the technology. To be honest, it looks great. It would be an ideal path for La Salle in terms of being able to renovate the Gola if the option did present itself.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 11, 2013 10:56:11 GMT -5
literally EXACTLY what we need.
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Post by durenduren on Jul 11, 2013 11:06:32 GMT -5
If someone can put up $21,099,995, I've got the other $5 covered.
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Post by lwc4591 on Jul 11, 2013 11:42:29 GMT -5
Forget about Gola renovations the school should build a new 4600-4800 seat arena which with good future teams would end up being a great investment with a great return.
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Post by ck on Jul 11, 2013 13:26:51 GMT -5
Correct. Build a new Gola (on the armory site?). Assume in the next few years La Salle has several NCAA appearances and wins one game each time. That means for close to a decade you have effectively found money coming in. Plow a good chunk of it into financing a new multi-purpose facility and it becomes financially conceivable and adds to overall campus attraction. Don't waste money on a Gola re-re-upgrade.
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Post by thehawkisdead on Jul 11, 2013 18:48:58 GMT -5
Yes! A new arena. The geniuses have finally figured out that that's what we need. I'll write a check to cover the $60 million tomorrow.
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