Zero coverage by Inquirer, does La Salle have an SID?

[louth]

I have a digital subscription to the Inquirer as I live in SC, in order to follow La Salle BB. My opinion regarding lack of coverage is probably going to result in my cancellation. All local schools as well as women’s local schools get coverage, not La Salle. We have a high profile coach, a winning record and no respect locally. Apparently our new AD does not take this seriously, as he is from a high profile school for the previous 7 years. Shouldn’t he have access to our esteemed(sic) media? Buehler…

[belfieldhappyhour]

This is an age old issue Louth. Nowadays, the issue isn't us, in my opinion. Jeff Neiburg is the main college hoops writer for them and they are using the COBL guys to supplement coverage. I don't have a subscription, but outside of Villanova, how much coverage do away games get for the other city 6 schools? The deadline for the print addition of then paper is earlier than ever so even the C edition of the paper, which I bought, only had the score. There are D and D* which are later editions.
In the past, the Inquirer would use the AP story for our game last night, so if there wasn't an AP writer there, they'd grab the recap sent out but the school. Figure with a 6pm game, that recap was ready at 9 (estimating here), and that may have been after the deadline for the C edition of the paper. If they did put a few graphs in later editions of the paper, who knows why it isn't online.
When I worked in the athletic department many moons ago, we had a meeting with the Inquirer guys and were basically told we were like 9th in the pecking order of coverage. 4 major sports team, 5 other city schools to deal with. They had much bigger staffs back then too, so fighting for coverage now is even harder.

[gymrat67]

Louth : On the Phila. Inquirer online / digital homepage, use your mouse to go up to top left side margin ( to the extreme left of "The Philadelphia Inquirer" masthead logo ) and click on the topics list icon, when your list of choices are displayed scroll down and click on "college sports", when it opens scroll down the list of local colleges on left until you reach No.5 " La Salle "and the accompanying display of several of the most recent Inquirer articles on La Salle MBB and WBB. [ Also note ' more ' arrow shown at top right. ]  Hope this helps.


( September 22, 2023 ) CoBL partnering with Philadelphia Inquirer for hoops coverage

www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/show/1285206

[walkon]

The inquirer is just about useless. Shame what they have become, as it was one of the best major city newspapers in the country. I cancelled my subscription for several reasons, but one of them was the issue you are referencing. Not only is their writing poor, the app is really pathetic. College hoops coverage is nothing but a summary of boxscores with old stock photos. 

[23won]

Inqy has no content now. Long decline.

[DE-LSU84]

Living in Sussex County Delaware, even the Washington Post edition that I got Sunday morning had zero coverage of the GW v LaSalle game.

[hykos1045]

The best (and pretty much only) sources for La Salle basketball info these days are not even in print. See below:

3. Goexplorers.com articles, rife with play-by-play runs that look often appear as though they were drafted by Artificial Intelligence

2. #A10Twitter

1. The Gola Standard podcast on Spotify, Apple, etc.

[explorer88]

This board by far has the best La Salle content. Gola Standard reads this board for much of their content.

[JoeFedorowicz]

My old editor Aaron Bracy has been writing Big 5 again (I built his site) big5hoops.com/

At the moment, he’s writing a weekly column with some supplement stories. Trying to cover games when he can but he’s doing a book on ‘03 St Joes team.

[1801olney]

Jan 29, 2024 20:21:26 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

My old editor Aaron Bracy has been writing Big 5 again (I built his site) big5hoops.com/

At the moment, he’s writing a weekly column with some supplement stories. Trying to cover games when he can but he’s doing a book on ‘03 St Joes team.

Aaron seems like a good guy and like his work, but his stuff never seems to get much traction. Maybe “we” overestimate the demand for big 5 content? The teams don’t have beat writers with the Inquirer, the athletic never filled the Big 5 writer position after the out of town guy they hired moved on, etc. All the diehards would read but is there much casual interest?

[JoeFedorowicz]

Enough demand to run a website pro-bono. Not enough to get paid for it.

[talkinbball]

It's way past time to call it the Big 5. Cherish the memories~

[hykos1045]

Jan 31, 2024 5:09:25 GMT -5 talkinbball said:

It's way past time to call it the Big 5. Cherish the memories~

Whaddayacallit? "City6" aka "Soccer6" (RIP, Philly Textile) is a recreational softball league. The participants discussed and decided it should still be the Big5 because of all the equity in that brand would be difficult to usurp by changing the name this late. I believe their added justification was that in this Era of the Big10 and etc. having 11 to 14 teams, it does not so much matter who the "Big5" are called, does it?

[explorerburger]

Jan 29, 2024 8:43:40 GMT -5 DE-LSU84 said:

Living in Sussex County Delaware, even the Washington Post edition that I got Sunday morning had zero coverage of the GW v LaSalle game.

Two quick points:

1. The Washington Post has broadly deprioritized local reporting since Bezos took ownership. It's had a terrible impact on sports coverage. (It's hard to say if that would be any different if the local teams were competitive, but I'm inclined to say that it would only slightly matter).

2. Reporting is suffering because Americans of all demographics have come to believe that they are entitled to free content. No problem paying for a $6 cup of coffee or a $20 glass of Scotch. But heaven forbid we actually financially support the intensive process that is required to bring credible news stories to life. (Feel free to disagree, but my opinion cannot be changed about this: we pay for what we value, and we largely refuse to pay for news).

[JoeFedorowicz]

Stupid kids won't pay for media who doesn't actually speak truth to power and basically ignores them in favor of Baby Boomers and Gen Xers.

[theneumann64]

There is also the problem of all these VC people buying legacy publications and essentially expecting to turn them into profit centers with little regard for anything else. I saw a tweet a few months back that said something like "If you wondering why we don't have something great that we use to have, it's because it's not providing a 600% ROI to the worst people in the world."

[MisterD]

Jan 31, 2024 14:15:42 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

Stupid kids won't pay for media who doesn't actually speak truth to power and basically ignores them in favor of Baby Boomers and Gen Xers.

Is it because reporters no longer believe in doing so or because the Boomers have bought a majority of the legacy outlets and can dictate coverage? I think the cause and effect here are reversed.

[JoeFedorowicz]

How news is consumed has changed. Who is going to seek out the La Salle basketball gamer in the Inquirer. 12 people? Throwing the SID under the bus sure is something. They were having students cover the games on a freelance/intern basis. We've covered that here as well. With the internet, and later with Twitter, the need for a print gamer for La Salle vs Rhode Island is non-existent.

In terms of larger news consumption, the political divide has poisoned the well in terms of getting actual objective news. You can't say "TRUMP DID BAD THING" now without 35% of the country calling you a liberal shill. It's why NY Times Pitchbot is such a great follow. The shit they make up often passes for real life because there is some kind of yearning need to reach the "middle" whatever the hell that means.

Everybody has self-selected their own media and there is more media to consume. The Philadelphia Inquirer serves up 1% of what you can already find on Twitter or amongst other outlets. Is it better written? Yeah most of the time. Is it different? Not really to me.

So if you're 65-years-old and you read the paper you got delivered every day for 45 years...more power to you. I've never paid for newspaper delivery. I used to have an Inquirer subscription but killed it when Jensen quit. I really only used it to read his stuff or go find archived things. The desire for local journalism isn't there because other things have supplanted it. Ownership doesn't matter...at least what I think.

[MisterD]

Paragraph 2 and the last sentence are massive contradictions. The reason pitchbot's centrist nonsense tweets work is precisely because of who ownership is and who their articles serve. Money does not want objectivity or accountability.

[JoeFedorowicz]

Jan 31, 2024 14:49:47 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Paragraph 2 and the last sentence are massive contradictions. The reason pitchbot's centrist nonsense tweets work is precisely because of who ownership is and who their articles serve. Money does not want objectivity or accountability.

Give me the perfect business model for the NY Times to increase readership though...not money, but to just get eyeballs. I don't think there is one that moves the needle in a meaningful way.

[MisterD]

Aside from "don't charge", bundling it with something people already pay for (prime, netflix, etc) seems like the easiest way to do what you're asking.

[JoeFedorowicz]

So ‘you can read 2000 words on the Middle East by someone you’ve never heard of’ will be a better sell to a 25-year-old if they bundle it with Netflix. Maybe, but not by any measurable amount I’d say.

[talkinbball]

Jan 31, 2024 8:04:18 GMT -5 hykos1045 said:

Jan 31, 2024 5:09:25 GMT -5 talkinbball said:

It's way past time to call it the Big 5. Cherish the memories~

Whaddayacallit? "City6" aka "Soccer6" (RIP, Philly Textile) is a recreational softball league. The participants discussed and decided it should still be the Big5 because of all the equity in that brand would be difficult to usurp by changing the name this late. I believe their added justification was that in this Era of the Big10 and etc. having 11 to 14 teams, it does not so much matter who the "Big5" are called, does it?

Let me try a different way to make my point. When someone other than the 7 regular posters to this board, manage to even stumble upon the phrase Big 5 in relation to college basketball, what percentage of the conversation/thought that takes place after that, is about anything other than what it "used to be"?? Or, rephrased, what percentage of the conversation/thought that takes place after that is about "today's" Big 5? For example, wonder who (fill in name of school here) is playing tonight?? When the overwhelming conversation/thought about your product is about how good it was in the past, that does not seem to be a great way to build your "Brand" TODAY. Just sayin'.

[thelasallelunatic]

What is wrong about objectively presenting the facts from a centrist viewpoint? We centrists still exist, even if our parties left us a decade ago.

[explorerburger]

Jan 31, 2024 14:15:42 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

Stupid kids won't pay for media who doesn't actually speak truth to power and basically ignores them in favor of Baby Boomers and Gen Xers.

Joe, I like you, but that is precisely the opposite of what I wrote. If it were only stupid kids refusing to pay, that would be a smaller crisis than this broad rejection of the subscription model across all demos and the consequential epidemic of media illiteracy across this country.

[JoeFedorowicz]

When it comes to news media, do you expect people under the age of 35 to pay money for written news?

[talkinbball]

Jan 31, 2024 19:07:25 GMT -5 talkinbball said:

Jan 31, 2024 8:04:18 GMT -5 hykos1045 said:

Whaddayacallit? "City6" aka "Soccer6" (RIP, Philly Textile) is a recreational softball league. The participants discussed and decided it should still be the Big5 because of all the equity in that brand would be difficult to usurp by changing the name this late. I believe their added justification was that in this Era of the Big10 and etc. having 11 to 14 teams, it does not so much matter who the "Big5" are called, does it?

Let me try a different way to make my point. When someone other than the 7 regular posters to this board, manage to even stumble upon the phrase Big 5 in relation to college basketball, what percentage of the conversation/thought that takes place after that, is about anything other than what it "used to be"?? Or, rephrased, what percentage of the conversation/thought that takes place after that is about "today's" Big 5? For example, wonder who (fill in name of school here) is playing tonight?? When the overwhelming conversation/thought about your product is about how good it was in the past, that does not seem to be a great way to build your "Brand" TODAY. Just sayin'.

The other thing that was WAY more relevant in the case of those other Big (Fill in the Blank) Conferences maintaining their names is that there was/is WAY more MONEY involved with those names. With the name Big 5 there is only nostalgia. I know you don't want to face it and, if I had my druthers, it would not be the case either but, it's not the 1970s anymore.

[DE-LSU84]

Hey, at least NBC/Sports Philadelphia had highlights of the LaSalle game. To bad they didn't give the continuation foul on Brantley's last shot.

[lasalle69bestever]

OPEC and the BRICS nations are using OPEC+ and BRICS+ as new members are added. How about Big 5+. lol (but maybe not).

[coachd]

Jan 28, 2024 21:38:14 GMT -5 louth said:

I have a digital subscription to the Inquirer as I live in SC, in order to follow La Salle BB. My opinion regarding lack of coverage is probably going to result in my cancellation. All local schools as well as women’s local schools get coverage, not La Salle. We have a high profile coach, a winning record and no respect locally. Apparently our new AD does not take this seriously, as he is from a high profile school for the previous 7 years. Shouldn’t he have access to our esteemed(sic) media? Buehler…

The Philly Inq and Daily News died a quick death. Up until the late 90's they were still relevant as far as Sports coverage. Surprised either is still in existence... all newspapers and most magazines are no longer what they once were.