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Post by broderickpresident on Aug 12, 2021 12:00:21 GMT -5
This is the kind of schedule you make when your coach is desperate to point to a .500 or better season
Can't knock it too much given the pandemic situation, though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 12:26:28 GMT -5
How are we on year infinity of this and half the board is still unable to comprehend that La Salle can't write its own schedule? Pretend for like 30 seconds you're Virginia or Syracuse or most of that list ... why would you play La Salle? What, at all, is there to gain? I didnt say all of them, I simply said within driving distance, NONE of them would have La Salle? I find it hard to believe. Most of those have played us in the last 10 years. Add flights within 3 hours, and you have about 100 teams and NONE of them? Not buying it. If you tell those teams, "we play at your place twice, then neutral site for 1 year"- most of them take it. Oh, and you'll make a couple hundred thousand from that.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 12, 2021 13:40:45 GMT -5
How are we on year infinity of this and half the board is still unable to comprehend that La Salle can't write its own schedule? Pretend for like 30 seconds you're Virginia or Syracuse or most of that list ... why would you play La Salle? What, at all, is there to gain? If you tell those teams, "we play at your place twice, then neutral site for 1 year"- most of them take it. Oh, and you'll make a couple hundred thousand from that. 1) No, none of them take it. Believe me. 2) Who is paying whom...now I'm confused.
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Post by hykos1045 on Aug 12, 2021 13:54:37 GMT -5
Couple hundred thousand? That's football type money.
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Post by MisterD on Aug 12, 2021 14:25:47 GMT -5
If anyone wants to say "we should have found a tournament", I'm totally fine with that. "Schedule majors", as if we wouldn't want to play Penn State or whoever, is just ignoring reality.
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Post by coachd on Aug 12, 2021 14:41:40 GMT -5
We don't need a Duke, but maybe one more top 100 NET team other than Villanova would be nice to maybe get some mentions in March for an NIT bid. Final Net rankings for our OOC schedule for teams that played last year: Villanova 11 Drexel 147 Temple 160 Albany 216 Delaware 220 Bucknell 225 Holy Cross 228 FDU 256 Sacred Heart 270 Ash has to get us a winning year in 21-22 or it is skidoo for Mr. Howard. Recruits only care about a winning record... not that you beat the top 2 teams from 5 major conferences.
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Post by coachd on Aug 12, 2021 14:43:06 GMT -5
If anyone wants to say "we should have found a tournament", I'm totally fine with that. "Schedule majors", as if we wouldn't want to play Penn State or whoever, is just ignoring reality. Yeah, there are still plenty of openings in the Wuhan Classic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 15:04:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 15:07:30 GMT -5
If you tell those teams, "we play at your place twice, then neutral site for 1 year"- most of them take it. Oh, and you'll make a couple hundred thousand from that. 1) No, none of them take it. Believe me. 2) Who is paying whom...now I'm confused. They've taken it in the past. We played 2 at PSU for one back at the Palestra. Same thing with Miami. That's just what I have off the top of my head as well as a game a Pitt a handful of years ago.
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Post by weston2 on Aug 12, 2021 15:07:40 GMT -5
Is this a schedule for a team "a year away from being a year away"? Just win some games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 15:17:29 GMT -5
Is this a schedule for a team "a year away from being a year away"? Just win some games. probably. But you shouldn't be a year away from being a year away in year 4 as a head coach.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 12, 2021 15:25:36 GMT -5
1) No, none of them take it. Believe me. 2) Who is paying whom...now I'm confused. They've taken it in the past. We played 2 at PSU for one back at the Palestra. Same thing with Miami. That's just what I have off the top of my head as well as a game a Pitt a handful of years ago. We played PSU because their roster was chock full with Philadelphia guys and Chambers was a Philly guy. Same thing with Larranaga. He had Davon Reed (played in the league for a hot minute). Ja'Quon Newton. The game in Reading was a showcase for Lonnie Walker.
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Post by glorydays on Aug 12, 2021 16:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 12, 2021 16:26:29 GMT -5
Last guy to get La Salle to the A10 semis so
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 12, 2021 17:11:46 GMT -5
They scheduled the Villanova Palestra game on an Eagles Sunday - 1:00 at NY. I'm already annoyed. I suppose that's what I get for re-upping my season tickets before seeing the schedule. Hope for a 4 pm tip. Watch Eagles at New Deck.
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Post by glorydays on Aug 12, 2021 20:14:25 GMT -5
Joe, my comment was not meant to flatter Hahn. It was to point out that we took the cash to play up with a young team at that time.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Aug 12, 2021 20:31:58 GMT -5
I hate the schedule release thread every year. I tend to side with Joe and MisterD on the 'who would schedule us' side of the argument. My counter (for this season anyway) to those who want a hard schedule/better teams, is who the f* cares?
There can't be a single member of this board who thinks we have a legit shot at the postseason. If we did, then yeah, I want a tougher schedule with more quality teams, but that isn't the case. And in reality, whatever mix of 'cupcakes', normally scheduled games or elite opponents we schedule, there will always be someone bitching on the strength or weakness of the schedule. This year we have those arguing that the schedule is too weak, but if we have, say, 5 games against power 5 schools, people will say Ash is crazy and is gonna get his head beat in. Everyone needs to chill on the schedule, it ain't the end of the world.
That's my 2 cents and my centrist take.
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Post by blueandgold on Aug 12, 2021 22:11:43 GMT -5
Did anyone else feel like the school’s release of this slate was written with the same brevity and lack of enthusiasm as NBC10’s last two seconds of the sports segment where they give the obligatory La Salle result?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 13, 2021 4:10:38 GMT -5
I think their target audience was the social media video which was a little corny but fun.
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Post by sweat83 on Aug 13, 2021 6:53:11 GMT -5
I think Ash is in the same situation he was in a year ago. May need to figure out what rotations work best, and we'll likely see a 9, maybe 10 players get minutes. Didn't really work last year. But best to figure it out against the "cupcakes". Playing the cupcakes doesn't always result in easy W's as we've seen in recent years.
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Post by explorer88 on Aug 13, 2021 7:47:29 GMT -5
This is Ash's last year for me to prove he should lead this program. Not asking for a post season bid but I need to see some path toward improvement and hope for the program. It would help if school made a commitment to upgrading Gola but not holding my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 8:00:36 GMT -5
I hate the schedule release thread every year. I tend to side with Joe and MisterD on the 'who would schedule us' side of the argument. My counter (for this season anyway) to those who want a hard schedule/better teams, is who the f*&# cares? There can't be a single member of this board who thinks we have a legit shot at the postseason. If we did, then yeah, I want a tougher schedule with more quality teams, but that isn't the case. And in reality, whatever mix of 'cupcakes', normally scheduled games or elite opponents we schedule, there will always be someone bitching on the strength or weakness of the schedule. This year we have those arguing that the schedule is too weak, but if we have, say, 5 games against power 5 schools, people will say Ash is crazy and is gonna get his head beat in. Everyone needs to chill on the schedule, it ain't the end of the world. That's my 2 cents and my centrist take. Well there is some happy medium between all bottom of the barrel schools and all P5 schools. I don't care so much about OOC record (seems to be Ash's only concern) but are you telling me NET 256 Fairleigh Dickinson really gets you ready to play a top 25 Bonnies? When you look at a pretty weak '19-20 We went 9-3 in non-conference, with the 3 losses being Big 5 games. Then went on to lose 8 of the first 9 A10 games (Fordham being the win). When I looked at it, I looked at more than just pure rankings and history, there's just nothing for fans to get excited about whatsoever. Which isn't great when you are trying to get some buzz/energy around the program.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Aug 13, 2021 8:18:34 GMT -5
They scheduled the Villanova Palestra game on an Eagles Sunday - 1:00 at NY. I'm already annoyed. I suppose that's what I get for re-upping my season tickets before seeing the schedule. Hope for a 4 pm tip. Watch Eagles at New Deck. If I don't go to East Rutherford, I will join you for this...5 PM tip.
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Post by a10champion15 on Aug 13, 2021 8:26:08 GMT -5
I think Ash is in the same situation he was in a year ago. May need to figure out what rotations work best, and we'll likely see a 9, maybe 10 players get minutes. Didn't really work last year. But best to figure it out against the "cupcakes". Playing the cupcakes doesn't always result in easy W's as we've seen in recent years. This is exactly my thought as well. However, there is definitely a lot less to figure out and I think it's relatively smart to get your ducks in a row before A10 play. SJU and URI played pretty tough schedules last year and I don't think it really benefited them or got their fanbase excited when they got blown out. About half the schedule relatively on par with A10 play so it's not as much of a cake walk as some are suggesting. If anyone had any inclination this year would be a year to put together a tough schedule and shoot for a at large bid they were mistaken. And again, the OOC schedule might not be done yet so this nonsense could be premature.
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Post by MisterD on Aug 13, 2021 8:29:46 GMT -5
If I don't go to East Rutherford, I will join you for this...5 PM tip. One of the few good things about the past 18 months is my company closed their office in that area. Even once per week was far too often.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Aug 13, 2021 8:34:12 GMT -5
This is a very Giannini like schedule. In 20 years of following the Explorers, probably 16 of them have been this type of schedule. This type of schedule does very little to prepare us for A10 play. It's similar to the schedule of 2 years ago. Come out like a bat out of hell with 8 or 9 wins, and go 6-12 in the A10. Again, I realize that I nuts with OOC scheduling. Unless it's an old school Temple schedule, I'm rarely happy with it.
I understand that we are in a pandemic, but get the team and staff vaccinated and be smart. The fact that this virus is kicking our ass with vaccines present, is a GIANT fucking alarm, that social media has been a net negative for society in general. It's made us dumber as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 9:10:38 GMT -5
This is a very Giannini like schedule. In 20 years of following the Explorers, probably 16 of them have been this type of schedule. This type of schedule does very little to prepare us for A10 play. It's similar to the schedule of 2 years ago. Come out like a bat out of hell with 8 or 9 wins, and go 6-12 in the A10. Again, I realize that I nuts with OOC scheduling. Unless it's an old school Temple schedule, I'm rarely happy with it. I understand that we are in a pandemic, but get the team and staff vaccinated and be smart. The fact that this virus is kicking our ass with vaccines present, is a GIANT fucking alarm, that social media has been a net negative for society in general. It's made us dumber as a whole. If you look at his schedules, there were usually 1-2 P5 schools. His lower level match ups were typically top of their conference teams. Bucknell most of the time when we played them were pretty good (they havent been since paulsen left) and if you look at where they were in pre season rankings, usually they were top 3 or so in their conference which is important. FDU, HC, Bucknell, Albany, Sacred Heart - they arent even top half of their conference teams.
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Post by hykos1045 on Aug 13, 2021 11:02:51 GMT -5
1) No, none of them take it. Believe me. 2) Who is paying whom...now I'm confused. They've taken it in the past. We played 2 at PSU for one back at the Palestra. Same thing with Miami. That's just what I have off the top of my head as well as a game a Pitt a handful of years ago. Two games at Pitt, actually. No return game, however. As for PSU, Chambers is gone and as he and G left, that traditional series disintegrated. Even a game that was on our schedule, we were replaced with NC St. Remember? Show us where we have been able to get a 2 for 1. It doesn't actually exist anymore because many of the conferences have gone to 18+ games, it's even rarer than it ever was.
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Post by 23won on Aug 13, 2021 11:39:46 GMT -5
Not crazy about Albany, Sacred Heart and FDU. Would rather see Siena over Albany, Manhattan or Iona over Sacred Heart and American or Howard over FDU to give the DC kids a trip home if you do home and away
should be easy Ws with Albany, Sacred Heart FDU Holy Cross. Drexel and Delaware likely Ws. Should beat Bucknell. Same for Penn but Ash has a history of being out coached v Penn.
A good coach would go 9-1 or 8-2. We’ll see how Ash does
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Post by glorydays on Aug 13, 2021 15:23:18 GMT -5
Not crazy about Albany, Sacred Heart and FDU. Would rather see Siena over Albany, Manhattan or Iona over Sacred Heart and American or Howard over FDU to give the DC kids a trip home if you do home and away should be easy Ws with Albany, Sacred Heart FDU Holy Cross. Drexel and Delaware likely Ws. Should beat Bucknell. Same for Penn but Ash has a history of being out coached v Penn. A good coach would go 9-1 or 8-2. We’ll see how Ash does Unsure of a likely win at DE. They have some talent...Jameer, JR., Dylan Painter (the kid might be old enough for Social Security), Ryan Allen, Anthony Ochefu??...hey, these are names but I am unsure of the talent....everybody knows that I am a fan of their coach - Martin Ingelsby....
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