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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 8:07:10 GMT -5
or maybe he doesn’t exist. If you’re on here guy, speak your truth. Otherwise, it’s all conjecture. Feel free to ask Kale. Kale's title is "Director of Athletic Development." If there was the potential for another $10M donation being held up by the lack of a cohesive plan, he seems to have the title of someone that could...I don't know...change that. And if he tried and was rebuffed, what are we all doing here because someone clearly doesn't want to be successful for seemingly no reason.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 8:19:28 GMT -5
I love how this has now turned to blaming the successful alum's fault for not giving instead of the school's fault for not having an announced plan to attract donors.
To Kale's credit, he was hustling like crazy with this guy and many others...but with no approved plan to communicate, what could he do? A plan has to go through the BoT for approval and be formulated at higher levels than him. Are you really blaming him for no plan, Joe? That's fascinating
This alum's kids went to St. Joe's, and the Hawks had communicated their plan a few months prior to that meeting, and now they have millions in donations toward it..but hey...let's blame the alum for not blindly donating. That will continue to work for us.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 8:35:29 GMT -5
I love how this has now turned to blaming the successful alum's fault for not giving instead of the school's fault for not having an announced plan to attract donors. To Kale's credit, he was hustling like crazy with this guy and many others...but with no approved plan to communicate, what could he do? A plan has to go through the BoT for approval and be formulated at higher levels than him. Are you really blaming him for no plan, Joe? That's fascinating I'm not blaming Kale at all. I know how hard he works so you can stop that idea right there. It's fascinating that you always go there. If the donor was serious about donating, he'd work with La Salle on what he wanted his gigantic check to go to. If all this is true, I'm sure I'll hear about it privately to which I'll come back and say I'm sorry. But until then, it seems to me that either this story isn't what you make it to be...or La Salle's administrative and development staffs are committing malpractice...no?
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 9:15:24 GMT -5
I'm not blaming Kale at all. I know how hard he works so you can stop that idea right there. ...or La Salle's administrative and development staffs are committing malpractice...no? You referenced his title and said he is someone who could change that {lack of cohesive plan}. Seems you are implicitly assigning blame to him for a lack of a plan. I think the malpractice falls squarely on the past President who brought in multiple consultants to develop a yet-to-be-communicated plan...but you'll never say a bad word about her...despite the numbers. SJU's Pres announced a campus plan in 2019. Yesterday he announced the huge donation. She announced...dog dorms. You seem to constantly revert to things not happening because you weren't there. Believe it or not, there are people who leave their suburban bunkers and do things AT and/or FOR the school. There is a La Salle world outside this message board. If you want more leads on your investigative reporting, Dean MaryShelia was there along with Steve Melick from the Business School giving a presentation on Entrepreneurship. October 17, 2019 at a country club in Chester County. I'm not going to give you the donor's name, and, quite frankly, it would be malpractice is anyone there did, even privately.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 10:40:38 GMT -5
I'm not blaming Kale at all. I know how hard he works so you can stop that idea right there. ...or La Salle's administrative and development staffs are committing malpractice...no? You referenced his title and said he is someone who could change that {lack of cohesive plan}. Seems you are implicitly assigning blame to him for a lack of a plan. Two things. You said this... We have people on staff paid to land those big donors, but the haven't. So maybe I'm confused about what you actually think. Also, is this plan not a plan? (fantastic URL btw). This is what was linked in the stickied post, but I killed that attachment when I mass deleted them. I'm interested to know if plan came out after the meeting in question or before. And if it came out before, what was it missing. And since it exists now, why haven't we heard about the donation. www.hcm2.com/projects/lasalle-univeristy-strategic-facilities-plan/
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 10:59:30 GMT -5
Are you really equating a link to a vendor with 2 paragraphs about their work on a strategic plan (with "La Salle" spelled incorrectly) with the school communicating an official strategic plan vision and direction.
Maybe if the output of that had been communicated with timelines and funding needed...etc...(like SJU's president did in their Alumni Magazine 2 years ago)
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Post by 23won on Jun 30, 2021 11:00:10 GMT -5
The gifts aren’t close to the same. I’m as jealous as anyone of St Joe’s financial prowess but the Maguire’s gift is both pointed and bigger than Glaser’s. And they have more land. And they have other large donors. Different leagues. Some fair counterpoints here but the big problem has been Board and leadership inaction over an 8-year period after receiving a manna-like gift from heaven. Sub-problems of that big problem are failures to share publicly the vision, action plan and master facilities plan. What alum can support, financially or otherwise, an invisible action plan. You have a leadership mindset that it's ok to take four years to replace two CEOs and have no succession plan that would operate in either case. If a public company did that, their value would be decimated. The problem is the leadership inaction is causing our value to decimate. You don't need a stock ticker to show that. Look at enrollment and endowment failures. Look at the nursing program failure. Given this, it's not surprising that the leadership mindset is that it's ok to wait 8-10 years to build value on a lead gift. Meanwhile, you'r main competition is crushing you. Wake up!
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 11:18:09 GMT -5
Sub-problems of that big problem are failures to share publicly the vision, action plan and master facilities plan. What alum can support, financially or otherwise, an invisible action plan. EXACTLY THIS! This is why we can't have nice things.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 11:25:23 GMT -5
The gifts aren’t close to the same. I’m as jealous as anyone of St Joe’s financial prowess but the Maguire’s gift is both pointed and bigger than Glaser’s. And they have more land. And they have other large donors. Different leagues. Joe - in 2016 you said our lack of millionaires wasn't the problem. Now you are saying we don't have enough donors. Which is it? You bet on "Madam Prez"...and blamed past leadership, athletic directors, and the board and were sure it would change...but nothing changed. explorertown.proboards.com/post/52338But to say there aren't million dollar donors out there is wrong. They just haven't been incentivized enough to give.
I think this is all changing. Madam Prez is going to make something happen, I believe in that, and we'll see if it will work. It's something though and there hasn't been something since I started paying attention about 12 years ago. 16 years with the same president, same board and same athletic director will do that....not lack of millionaires.
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Post by explorer88 on Jun 30, 2021 12:25:10 GMT -5
There is no defending La Salle in sharing plans and their vision. They sucked at 30 years ago, the sucked at it 20 years ago, they sucked at it 10 years, and stink now at it.
It is the biggest detriment to their ability to raise funds. Glitter is 100% correct. As an alumni it is so frustrating not being able to see plans for fundraising. I think we can all say La Salle could get more money from us if they shared the vision and plans of what they are asking me to donate for. Why they don't do this is totally perplexing to me.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 13:57:21 GMT -5
The gifts aren’t close to the same. I’m as jealous as anyone of St Joe’s financial prowess but the Maguire’s gift is both pointed and bigger than Glaser’s. And they have more land. And they have other large donors. Different leagues. Joe - in 2016 you said our lack of millionaires wasn't the problem. Now you are saying we don't have enough donors. Which is it? You bet on "Madam Prez"...and blamed past leadership, athletic directors, and the board and were sure it would change...but nothing changed. explorertown.proboards.com/post/52338But to say there aren't million dollar donors out there is wrong. They just haven't been incentivized enough to give.
I think this is all changing. Madam Prez is going to make something happen, I believe in that, and we'll see if it will work. It's something though and there hasn't been something since I started paying attention about 12 years ago. 16 years with the same president, same board and same athletic director will do that....not lack of millionaires.So you are admitting that I was right in 2016, am still right now that they aren't incentivized to give (by your own admission you know a guy ready to drop 10 mil when he sees a plan), and then you go on your soapbox about the previous president...a rant to which I won't respond. Answer the first part of my last post. Who are we paying to do this that isn't getting it done?
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 14:11:48 GMT -5
Where did I admit you were right in 2016? It looks like you can't make up your mind. We had donors but it was the administration's fault...and now we don't have donors so it isn't their fault. Which is it?
To answer the first part of your last post...who are we paying to do this that isn't getting it done?
The "Madam Prez" to which you pledged your blind faith who was "going to make something happen" had 3 heads of Advancement during her tenure...and each year that person was among the top 7 most highly compensated employees of the University - most recently making $275k+ (according to the public filings I linked earlier). These people were HER hires...one from outside who had worked at Villanova in an advancement role before coming to La Salle. You could argue that they didn't get it done....or you could argue that their boss didn't hire properly and equip them with the necessary tools and decision-making to get it done...or it could be mix of both. You can look at the data I posted before about donations and make your own quantitative determination of their effectiveness.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 14:15:46 GMT -5
Where did I admit you were right in 2016? It looks like you can't make up your mind. We had donors but it was the administration's fault...and now we don't have donors so it isn't their fault. Which is it? To answer the first part of your last post... who are we paying to do this that isn't getting it done?
The "Madam Prez" to which you pledged your blind faith who was " going to make something happen" had 3 heads of Advancement during her tenure...and each year that person was among the top 7 most highly compensated employees of the University - most recently making $275k+ (according to the public filings I linked earlier). These people were HER hires...one from outside who had worked at Villanova in an advancement role before coming to La Salle. You could argue that they didn't get it done....or you could argue that their boss didn't hire properly and equip them with the necessary tools and decision-making to get it done...or it could be mix of both. You can look at the data I posted before about donations and make your own quantitative determination of their effectiveness. I mean we do have people willing to donate (you said so), which is what i said, but they won't, which is what I said. And maybe you're right about the last administration. Or the one before that. Or the one before that. Seems like we keep making the wrong decision then.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 30, 2021 14:25:06 GMT -5
Where did I admit you were right in 2016? I admit you were right in 2016
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jun 30, 2021 14:25:33 GMT -5
Willing to donate...BUT....to what exactly? That's the missing piece. The administration needs to COMMUNICATE THE PLAN...if there is one after several rounds of paid consultants.
Even Glaser was astute enough to say...you get the money but you need a plan...I'm giving you seed money to start and I'll give you 10 years because I know things move slowly at 20th and Olney.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 30, 2021 14:29:15 GMT -5
Willing to donate...BUT....to what exactly? That's the missing piece. The administration needs to COMMUNICATE THE PLAN...if there is one after several rounds of paid consultants. Even Glaser was astute enough to say...you get the money but you need a plan...I'm giving you seed money to start and I'll give you 10 years because I know things move slowly at 20th and Olney. I will agree with this post. Best thing you've posted today.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jun 30, 2021 16:52:02 GMT -5
Willing to donate...BUT....to what exactly? That's the missing piece. The administration needs to COMMUNICATE THE PLAN...if there is one after several rounds of paid consultants. Even Glaser was astute enough to say...you get the money but you need a plan...I'm giving you seed money to start and I'll give you 10 years because I know things move slowly at 20th and Olney. I will agree with this post. Best thing you've posted today. I think we need to throw you two into a boxing ring. Loser comes up with the plan for a new arena and winner does the fundraising, or something like that. Sarcasm
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Post by glorydays on Jun 30, 2021 17:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by roaddog77 on Jul 1, 2021 2:13:52 GMT -5
This don't make no sense that St.Joe's can build a practice facility for their basketball program and we still BS around on how we are going to renovated the Tom Gola arena(aka high school gym). I'm already mad about them dropping the baseball program and other athletic program and we still discussing about a new arena. Our only opportunity for a new or renovated arena was after the 2012-2013 season. In the past three season at St.Joe's, their win total was under 10 win per season and they building a practice facility for their basketball program. In my opinion, I need to hit the powerball lottery and donate one-third of my winning to LaSalle for them to build a new basketball arena. The AD need to do less talking and more action in building the basketball program a new arena period.
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Post by glorydays on Jul 1, 2021 8:13:08 GMT -5
This don't make no sense that St.Joe's can build a practice facility for their basketball program and we still BS around on how we are going to renovated the Tom Gola arena(aka high school gym). I'm already mad about them dropping the baseball program and other athletic program and we still discussing about a new arena. Our only opportunity for a new or renovated arena was after the 2012-2013 season. In the past three season at St.Joe's, their win total was under 10 win per season and they building a practice facility for their basketball program. In my opinion, I need to hit the powerball lottery and donate one-third of my winning to LaSalle for them to build a new basketball arena. The AD need to do less talking and more action in building the basketball program a new arena period. Dog, you have hit on the critical point of frustration here.
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Post by hideaway on Jul 1, 2021 23:02:34 GMT -5
Like all fundraising efforts for a building, it is very typical to speak to target donors about the need for a facility in order to raise a certain amount of money (typically half) before going public with the plans. La Salle has talked to me about that need MANY times. And guys, it was public information that Glaser gave money earmarked for an arena 8 ears ago, While his $5 plus million is nice, it is a drop in the bucket towards wat is needed for an arena. No alum is in the dark about this donation and La Salle's desire for an arena. You can be angry about Ls Salle's lack of great facilities but you shouldn't be mad about a lack of direction by the administration regarding those facilities. Maguie made $1 Billion when he sold his company....sorry guys, we don't have a billionaire in our ranks at La Salle or anyone remotely close.
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Post by 23won on Jul 2, 2021 7:04:48 GMT -5
Like all fundraising efforts for a building, it is very typical to speak to target donors about the need for a facility in order to raise a certain amount of money (typically half) before going public with the plans. La Salle has talked to me about that need MANY times. And guys, it was public information that Glaser gave money earmarked for an arena 8 ears ago, While his $5 plus million is nice, it is a drop in the bucket towards wat is needed for an arena. No alum is in the dark about this donation and La Salle's desire for an arena. You can be angry about Ls Salle's lack of great facilities but you shouldn't be mad about a lack of direction by the administration regarding those facilities. Maguie made $1 Billion when he sold his company....sorry guys, we don't have a billionaire in our ranks at La Salle or anyone remotely close. There's zero public information on plans ... for eight years. Leadership is a trainwreck when it comes to planning and transparency. If I understand your post, are you saying Glaser gave $5M and half hasn't been matched, therefore there is no public communication of the plans? I hope not, but seriously saying nothing for eight years when a gift is known and needs to be matched is just ridiculous. The excuses need to stop.
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 2, 2021 7:12:14 GMT -5
Agree with 23 here. I appreciate when Hideaway chimes in and posts on the board as his information is very good and spot on. However, the general alumni and 99% of the donating base from a numbers standpoint and not total donations have very little information or guidance on how to give to this project and what the project entails.
Why cut off 99% of the pool of potential donors? Whether they give just $1M or match Glaser's $5M why would La Salle leave that on the table? It can't defended and makes no sense.
We are not talking a new arena either. La Salle can never raise those funds in this universe or an alternate universe. We need something in the range of $15-20M to renovate Gola. Seems to me La Salle would be better off engaging the 99% of it's donor pool than shutting them out.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Jul 2, 2021 9:35:55 GMT -5
And guys, it was public information that Glaser gave money earmarked for an arena 8 ears ago, While his $5 plus million is nice, it is a drop in the bucket towards wat is needed for an arena. but you shouldn't be mad about a lack of direction by the administration regarding those facilities. Maguie made $1 Billion when he sold his company....sorry guys, we don't have a billionaire in our ranks at La Salle or anyone remotely close. sure, it was a drop in the bucket towards a new arena, but it's not a drop in the bucket towards a renovation of the current facility. i've been told by a couple people that glaser's gift at minimum has grown to the $7m-$8m range and may actually be closer to $10m. la salle will never build a "new" arena. la salle obviously doesn't have a maguire, but there are enough people willing to give 7 figure donations to tag onto the glaser gift so a capital campaign for a $20m-$25m reno can be done. as glitter said on an earlier post, at least one of those people backed out because of the lack of a plan. hopefully they can reel that person back in with a real plan. for that, we have every right to be mad about a lack of direction by the administration.
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Post by explorerentourage on Jul 2, 2021 10:43:46 GMT -5
Getting a practice facility with 4 walls and multiple baskets is more critical to the health of the program than renovating Gola. The players spend 300+ days in a practice facility, while they play 15 games at most in an arena.
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 2, 2021 11:10:02 GMT -5
Getting a practice facility with 4 walls and multiple baskets is more critical to the health of the program than renovating Gola. The players spend 300+ days in a practice facility, while they play 15 games at most in an arena. I can see both sides. You can't portray your program as a real A-10 member playing in a sub-standard high school gym. As a fan I hate watching La Salle on TV at Gola. It looks so bad and we look so out of place. I just don't see how La Salle can portray itself as a player in college basketball without addressing it. I think recruits want both and La Salle can't satisfy that. I would much rather start with the arena upgrade and go from there. St. Bonaventure has no practice facility and have done fine in the A-10. Let's make Gola better and then concentrate of the training facility with the understanding it is important as well.
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Post by calsufan on Jul 2, 2021 11:45:07 GMT -5
I can see both sides. You can't portray your program as a real A-10 member playing in a sub-standard high school gym. As a fan I hate watching La Salle on TV at Gola. That's why I go to the games. St. Bonaventure has no practice facility and have done fine in the A-10. Let's make Gola better and then concentrate of the training facility with the understanding it is important as well. With the school's current financial condition, we'll be lucky if we get one of them built, let alone two. Pick your poison and let's hope one of them is completed.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Aug 27, 2021 12:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Aug 27, 2021 12:42:59 GMT -5
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Post by sidclassof69 on Aug 27, 2021 19:52:06 GMT -5
IMO - The Gola would be a very nice “Practice Facility”- after La Salle builds a real “ Game “ facility🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔- Naaah🤣🤣🤣🤣
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