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Post by 23won on Apr 13, 2021 8:17:26 GMT -5
Whose back?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 13, 2021 8:30:49 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 13, 2021 8:37:38 GMT -5
Mamadou injured his back 2 years ago and took a medical redshirt.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Apr 13, 2021 9:32:27 GMT -5
Mamadou injured his back 2 years ago and took a medical redshirt. mamadou showed some promise as a freshman avg 3 pts and 3 rbds in 13 minutes per game off the bench, but after redshirting his soph year with the back injury, he barely played (171 minutes in 31 games) the last two years. possibly it was because he was stuck behind myles johnson and cliff omoruyi on the depth chart but you have to wonder if the back injury played a part. the last two grad transfers we got (diagne and mosely) were never able to help because of recurring injuries. hopefully we get a healthy mamadou looking for a chance to be a contributor. but to expect him to average 6 rebounds is really stretching it. that would have made him the twelfth leading rebounder in the a10 this past season.
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Post by 23won on Apr 13, 2021 9:40:54 GMT -5
6 may be overly optimistic, especially if the back hasn't healed, but it's been two years, he's athletic and young so he should be ok. Do we have a team doctor that consults on these things, lol.
Even in the years he got little minutes he had 1.5-1.7 rebounds in 5 minutes in Big East action. PT will dictate RPG, but if he is a live BE body and not injury plagued, it's plausible he could get 6 rpg in 20 mpg.
Could be a smart move by Ash. If he reels in Earlington, he's got my attention. Gotta stay positive!
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Post by diehardexplorer on Apr 13, 2021 9:50:14 GMT -5
PT will dictate RPG, but if he is a live BE body and not injury plagued, it's plausible he could get 6 rpg in 20 mpg. Gotta stay positive! 6 rpg in 20 mpg ..... smh
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Post by MisterD on Apr 13, 2021 9:57:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't go betting on it, but that's pretty close to Tony Washington / Christian Ray pace versus some insane projection.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 13, 2021 10:35:47 GMT -5
Even in the years he got little minutes he had 1.5-1.7 rebounds in 5 minutes in Big East action. That's about what Ed Croswell averaged for Providence this year. HE WILL BE THE SECOND COMING OF ED FOR US!!!!! TEAM MVP!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 12:29:57 GMT -5
If only he'd gone to St. Joseph's of PA, we could focus on untapped potential or something. Or Bonnies by way of Harcum College Recruited by Mark Schmidt > recruited by Ash. Schmidt has shown a knack for finding under the radar and hidden players. Ash hasn't really done anything particularly positive in terms of recruiting. Sooooo big difference.
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Post by hilarys on Apr 13, 2021 12:53:02 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 13, 2021 13:10:14 GMT -5
Or Bonnies by way of Harcum College Recruited by Mark Schmidt > recruited by Ash. Schmidt has shown a knack for finding under the radar and hidden players. Ash hasn't really done anything particularly positive in terms of recruiting. Sooooo big difference. Sample sizes are slightly different. Did Schmidt do that in his first three years? Maybe you could consider Nicholson, but he was offered by Bonnies before Schmidt was even there. And he’s also Canadian.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 13:18:19 GMT -5
Recruited by Mark Schmidt > recruited by Ash. Schmidt has shown a knack for finding under the radar and hidden players. Ash hasn't really done anything particularly positive in terms of recruiting. Sooooo big difference. Sample sizes are slightly different. Did Schmidt do that in his first three years? Maybe you could consider Nicholson, but he was offered by Bonnies before Schmidt was even there. He committed during Schmidt's first year. Yeah, Schmidt gets the benefit of the doubt. He continues to find guys like that though. Don't think someone he recruits is comparable to this guy Ash got.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 13, 2021 13:19:28 GMT -5
Again, based on 13 years of data for Schmidt.
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 13, 2021 13:21:50 GMT -5
[/quote]Sample sizes are slightly different. Did Schmidt do that in his first three years? Maybe you could consider Nicholson, but he was offered by Bonnies before Schmidt was even there. [/quote]
Joe, your reply is irrelevant. We are talking in the present. So Schmidt of today is recruiting his kids versus Ash of today. We are not having Schmidt from 2010-2011 in his thirds season recruiting Ash. We are talking about a coach with 8 straight winning seasons and recruiting formula that obviously works recruiting against Ash. Big advantage to Schmidt.
That doesn't mean these kids will work that way when all is said and done because it needs to play out. If projecting or laying bets, Schmidt is the obvious choice when selecting recruits to play for the program.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 13:22:03 GMT -5
Again, based on 13 years of data for Schmidt. Nicholson was year 1. Ash had a big that was offered before he took the job... unfortunately he didn't keep him. That kid is now All A10 and A10 DPOY.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 13, 2021 13:28:06 GMT -5
Joe, your reply is irrelevant. We are talking in the present. So Schmidt of today is recruiting his kids versus Ash of today. We are not having Schmidt from 2010-2011 in his thirds season recruiting Ash. We are talking about a coach with 8 straight winning seasons and recruiting formula that obviously works recruiting against Ash. Big advantage to Schmidt. That doesn't mean these kids will work that way when all is said and done because it needs to play out. If projecting or laying bets, Schmidt is the obvious choice when selecting recruits to play for the program. The argument was that one kid is going to be better because Mark Schmidt recruited him vs Coach Howard but that’s based on nothing other than one poster’s dislike of Coach Howard. It can’t be based upon a 13-year sample vs a two-year sample because that would be a stupid way to look at things.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 13:34:25 GMT -5
Joe, your reply is irrelevant. We are talking in the present. So Schmidt of today is recruiting his kids versus Ash of today. We are not having Schmidt from 2010-2011 in his thirds season recruiting Ash. We are talking about a coach with 8 straight winning seasons and recruiting formula that obviously works recruiting against Ash. Big advantage to Schmidt. That doesn't mean these kids will work that way when all is said and done because it needs to play out. If projecting or laying bets, Schmidt is the obvious choice when selecting recruits to play for the program. The argument was that one kid is going to be better because Mark Schmidt recruited him vs Coach Howard but that’s based on nothing other than one poster’s dislike of Coach Howard. It can’t be based upon a 13-year sample vs a two-year sample because that would be a stupid way to look at things. It has nothing to do with like/dislike of Ash. It has everything to do with his resume and the players he's brought in. No one wants Ash to succeed more than I do. But I'm also realistic.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 13, 2021 13:55:39 GMT -5
‘I really want the guy I’ve said they should fire to succeed’ is quite the take.
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Post by MisterD on Apr 13, 2021 14:00:06 GMT -5
Seems relevant to point out that Howard had a hand in recruiting two (2) national championship rosters, so maybe his ability to recruit isn't the real issue here?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 7:59:53 GMT -5
‘I really want the guy I’ve said they should fire to succeed’ is quite the take. Wanting to succeed, while simultaneously acknowledging poor results is a pretty standard take.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 14, 2021 8:50:30 GMT -5
Seems relevant to point out that Howard had a hand in recruiting two (2) national championship rosters, so maybe his ability to recruit isn't the real issue here? And had a hand in recruiting a La Salle team that lost in the PIG. As I've said before...I don't question his recruiting ability. I question his ability to coach and develop the talent he recruits. And...that's kind of what he's being paid for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 8:52:04 GMT -5
Seems relevant to point out that Howard had a hand in recruiting two (2) national championship rosters, so maybe his ability to recruit isn't the real issue here? seems relevant that he had a hand in coaching 2 national championship rosters. How has that coaching worked out without one of the best coaches of all time not able to hold his hand?
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Post by MisterD on Apr 14, 2021 10:34:29 GMT -5
How many coaches will it take before you consider the problem isn't the coaches and that the problem can't be solved by a new coach? Or will you just spend the rest of your life screaming for the next coaching change in an ever-revolving loop?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Apr 14, 2021 10:40:20 GMT -5
‘I really want the guy I’ve said they should fire to succeed’ is quite the take. Wanting to succeed, while simultaneously acknowledging poor results is a pretty standard take. Acknowledging poor results is different than saying someone should be fired. You’ve done the latter.
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Post by theneumann64 on Apr 14, 2021 11:00:49 GMT -5
I really think some of you guys are underestimating how much firing Howard after 3 or 4 years would make this job even LESS attractive to potential coaches. "So not only do I have to coach in by far the worst facility in the league, with less money, less resources, and in a hugely competitive market, if I don't turn things around in a couple years, I'll be out on my ass?"
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Post by MisterD on Apr 14, 2021 11:19:11 GMT -5
Yeah, we'd probably end up with a completely unqualified, no-experience candidate and then we'd all be ... wait ... hold on ...
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Post by explorer88 on Apr 14, 2021 11:40:29 GMT -5
I really think some of you guys are underestimating how much firing Howard after 3 of 4 years would make this job even LESS attractive to potential coaches. "So not only do I have to coach in by far the worst facility in the league, with less money, less resources, and in a hugely competitive market, if I don't turn things around in a couple years, I'll be out on my ass?" 4 years is enough time to make a decision. It has to be done one way or another. For La Salle to extend if he has another losing season is far more damaging than the perception of La Salle is not patient with their coach (which isn't true and everyone knows that it is more patient than most schools).
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Apr 14, 2021 12:06:43 GMT -5
We have to give him a chance to bring in HIS GUYS (shown here)
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Post by MisterD on Apr 14, 2021 12:47:07 GMT -5
YOUR GUYS (shown here):
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Post by 23won on Apr 14, 2021 14:21:21 GMT -5
We have to bring him a chance to bring in HIS GUYS (shown here) View AttachmentThe five white spots are a little misleading. Scott, Dave and Jared would have graduated anyway without COVID. If they were offered to come back next year, they wouldn't have had a breakout year, just more of the same inconsistent and uneven play. Don't think Ash lost sleep over these departures. Yes we lose some youth in Ayinde, but it's to a much better player in Jig. As far as a loss, has Ayinde landed anywhere? Also lose Stone, who didn't prove himself. Two non-core departures with the Portal is pretty good actually. Having said that, we need a scorer and at least two positional players to provide depth around what we have. Also need Clark and Moore to up their game over the summer and Sherif to improve consistency. There's certainly work to be done
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