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Post by sweat83 on Mar 8, 2021 15:36:00 GMT -5
Am ok with Spencer moving on. It opens the possibility for attracting a player/transfer. My real question is whether this potentially massive transfer process for the team will lead to more than 16 pages of posts like we had for Ed First point...agree. Big disappointment that he wasn't the impact player that I thought he would be. Second point... at least wait until we hit double digits in pages to bring this up.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 8, 2021 15:43:57 GMT -5
Is he going to also ride the bench for a Big East school? The problem with Ed's move (for me) is that it didn't make sense. Still doesn't make sense. Doesn't this entirely depend on what happens next year and where it leads him to professionally?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 8, 2021 15:45:14 GMT -5
Is he going to also ride the bench for a Big East school? The problem with Ed's move (for me) is that it didn't make sense. Still doesn't make sense. Doesn't this entirely depend on what happens next year and where it leads him to professionally? If he's playing 15mpg next year, sure. If playing a couple minutes a game at Providence leads to more money overseas, great. But plenty of guys have had overseas success from La Salle. A 25mpg, 14ppg, 10rpg player from La Salle gets paid in Europe.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 8, 2021 15:54:41 GMT -5
He's going to get paid either way and he's proven what he can do at the A-10 level so the Big East is likely upside or stagnant. Even if he's not starting, there's resume logic there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 15:58:09 GMT -5
He's going to get paid either way and he's proven what he can do at the A-10 level so the Big East is likely upside or stagnant. Even if he's not starting, there's resume logic there. If he averages 2 points and 2 rebounds a game shooting 24% from the line again. He will not get paid.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 8, 2021 16:07:15 GMT -5
I'd certainly be willing to put a little message board wager on this one. He's a proven A-10 big and A-10 bigs get paid. Even if he doesn't play at Providence, he's got the Big East on his resume too now.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 8, 2021 16:08:51 GMT -5
He also blindsided the team by quitting during the season. Ooof. I'm sorry I replied on Ed. Let's not go down this rabbit hole here. I think Spencer might go bigger than La Salle, but in a smaller role.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 8, 2021 16:24:07 GMT -5
He's in the same boat as Kimbrough to me; he might go up to play a back-rotation role for higher stakes or down for more usage but little NCAA upside, but he won't stay at this level.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Mar 8, 2021 17:29:02 GMT -5
In the 2nd half of the Villanova game Ed was under the Providence basket with two Nova players during a Providence miss. Everybody sprinted down the court while Ed was loping. He arrived late and was still getting into position when the Nova player drove right beside him. Ed's back got in his way and he drew a foul. Cooley yanked him right away. You could see Cooley animatedly saying "What are you doing?". IMO he needs to shed some weight and get in better condition if he wants more time next season.
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Post by Fastchuck on Mar 8, 2021 18:25:15 GMT -5
disagree with elite shooter observation, not consistent, his overall game was soft! As a senior, his leadership skills were not apparent... He shot 43% this season and 44% from three last season. His in conference numbers even better, 51% this year and 47% last year. He averaged 1.31 points per three taken (the highest average for any shot La Salle took this season). That is ELITE! Go pick apart any other part of his game if you want but there aren't many better three point shooters in the country. He was a good shooter when he got open and had his feet under him. Despite good size he did not post up smaller players. He did not have the handle and quickness to get his own shot. He never took it to the rim so it was hard to tell if he could finish. He had success because the offense was geared toward quick passing and finding the open man. To me he was too passive and slow to shoot. If he did move off a screen to catch and shoot he never seemed to get his feet right or his body square to the basket. As for the bigs, who on the coaching staff played at 4 or 5 and can teach the fundamentals? Of course you can be a point guard and and know how the position is played but how much cred do you have?
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Mar 8, 2021 19:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by 23won on Mar 8, 2021 20:43:02 GMT -5
Bright lights and more pocket money fellas. Doesn't always make sense in the long run.
That later realization worked for Ramon and Tyrone, and then they came home - to La Salle. Let's hope we can mine some more gold like that. When Ramon committed to come in, we weren't exactly lighting up the A10 IIRC.
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Post by gymrat67 on Mar 8, 2021 20:43:56 GMT -5
I won't pretend to know the system or Howard's instructions or Spencer's own willingness to fire, but it sure feels like Spencer's usage was about half of what it should be for a player like him. MisterD : I would substitute the words impact / contribution on offense for the word usage above.
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Post by vital on Mar 8, 2021 20:54:03 GMT -5
more than 16 pages of posts like we had for Ed Is he going to also ride the bench for a Big East school? The problem with Ed's move (for me) is that it didn't make sense. Still doesn't make sense. Sometimes it's not your job you hate it be the people or your boss you want to get away from!
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Post by gymrat67 on Mar 8, 2021 21:19:26 GMT -5
Bright lights and more pocket money fellas. Doesn't always make sense in the long run. That later realization worked for Ramon and Tyrone, and then they came home - to La Salle. Let's hope we can mine some more gold like that. When Ramon committed to come in, we weren't exactly lighting up the A10 IIRC. Let's not forget to mention the contribution of Rutgers junior transfer 6'-5" guard Earl Pettis who, after having to sit out a year, played in 2010-11 ( 9.1 ppg ) and 2011-12 ( 15.4 ppg ), when he outscored Ramon ( 14.1 ppg ), thereby helping to set the table for the Explorers exciting 2012-13 Sweet Sixteen season.
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Post by 23won on Mar 9, 2021 5:37:22 GMT -5
The power of great transfers (and yes Earl helped one year)
Pre-Ramon A10 record
2010–11 6–10 v our 6-11 record this year
Post-Ramon A10 record 2011–12 9–7 2012–13 11–5 (Tyrone helped here too)
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 9, 2021 6:00:54 GMT -5
Those two years were a fascinating mix of personality and talent. Lightning in a bottle. Duren was an important influence on those teams. Super underrated.
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Post by glorydays on Mar 9, 2021 6:30:17 GMT -5
How about a trade? One of our 2 recent transfers to UD for Dylan Painter.
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Post by coqui900 on Mar 9, 2021 9:08:18 GMT -5
I have no idea if Shawnta's kid is any good. But Shawnta might have been the best player in the A-10 during my undergrad years. I guess the right answers might be Camby since UMass was ranked #1 my freshman year (our first A-10 year and we were terrible but actually had them on the ropes in a game) or Odom during his time at URI. But Shawnta was just incredibly fun to watch. He hit a game winner (I think maybe at the buzzer) during one of the first games at Gola right in Donnie's face. Shawnta was A-10 POTY his final year and averaged 20.7/6.8 assists and a pretty remarkable four boards. And over 3.5 steals. URI also during that era had an incredibly backcourt with Tyson Wheeler and Cat Mobley. They made the Elite Eight one year and had a pretty terrible collapse in the final minute or so against Stanford, which had a really good point guard in Arthur Lee who led the way. I think the most remarkable thing from the A-10 during that era was Pepe Sanchez was the conference POTY in '99-00. This makes sense in memory but his stat line his senior season... and I kid you not... 5.6 PPG/8.0 APG/5.5 Boards/3.4 steals. That is historically weird. And on another random note: The UMBC team that upset Virginia had a 5'4" point guard named Joey Rodriquez who was really good. I guess Odom really likes those tiny PGs. That was actually a trend in the 90s - Earl Boykins at Eastern Michigan was ridiculous, and there was a guy named Keith "Mister" Jennings at East Tennessee State who was 5'6" or so and a second team All-American his senior year. Enough with my bizarre ranting. I watched one half of La Salle hoops this year.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 9, 2021 9:49:04 GMT -5
God I hated Pepe Sanchez. He was either the best bad player or worst good player. If you told me he scored half of his career points against La Salle I'd believe it.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 9, 2021 9:55:34 GMT -5
Second this ⬆️
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Post by MisterD on Mar 9, 2021 9:57:06 GMT -5
Although without Sanchez, we wouldn't have been able to spend full games telling Quincy Wadley he should be playing instead. So I guess Pepe wasn't all bad.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 9, 2021 10:06:24 GMT -5
Sophomores Jamison Battle and Chase Paar from GW entered the transfer portal. Both were starters for GW. A third GW player entered the portal today - 6-9 forward Sloan Seymour. Sloan saw more of the bench than the court for GW.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 10:14:44 GMT -5
Seymour started 32 of 33 games at Siena as a freshman and averaged 9 points a game. FWIW
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 9, 2021 10:22:29 GMT -5
Seymour started 32 of 33 games at Siena as a freshman and averaged 9 points a game. FWIW 3 colleges.... always a good look.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 9, 2021 10:26:34 GMT -5
Seymour started 32 of 33 games at Siena as a freshman and averaged 9 points a game. FWIW 3 colleges.... always a good look. Didn't Pookie do that?
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Post by MisterD on Mar 9, 2021 10:32:54 GMT -5
No.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 9, 2021 10:37:23 GMT -5
Traci Carter, Aaric Murray, Khalid Lewis, Scott Spencer, the Dusan Euro kid that we had during that trip to Prague, and I believe the Lopez kid from Washington Twp.
I don't think Demetrius Henry played anywhere else after G kicked him off the team.
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Post by las71 on Mar 9, 2021 10:59:44 GMT -5
3 Colleges may be the future of college basketball as kids try to find their best fit. If the NCAA does away with the sit out a year rule which I believe they will since the power conferences will need to restock every year, 3 Colleges may be the new normal.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 9, 2021 11:36:06 GMT -5
Its also not something that should be held against anyone. Kids should pursue whatever is best for them individually.
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