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Post by sidclassof69 on Feb 23, 2021 9:04:27 GMT -5
Ash staring to “ feel the heat” on this board( a little more) IMO- He hasn’t been what I expected- I guess I set the bar too high.( with his Villanova background,+ replacing G.(😝😝 Certainly not calling for anything drastic- but I would like to see an improvement ( coaching) in certain areas. Each game seems to be a new adventure+ that shows lack of consistency + discipline ( on both players+ coaches)
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Post by MisterD on Feb 23, 2021 9:22:22 GMT -5
Stats aren't everything. They're an average which tends to elevate the occasional good shooting game ( in that we're talking 30-40% in the first place ). Heck, going by these stats you'd think we were a .500 team or even something better. Not a team with a lousy record losing to Fordham, St. Joes, etc. Stats aren't everything, but that specific shot shows that rate or volume 3 shooting isn't this team's problem.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 23, 2021 9:22:35 GMT -5
Packing it in for the rest of the MBB season. Will check in if there is any interesting recruiting or player movement. Will follow WBB, WSOC and MSOC and make comments on the "other news".
See you in September (God willing).
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 23, 2021 10:39:46 GMT -5
basketball is not brain surgery. part of the coach's job is to game plan, and part of that game plan should be to identify and attack the other team's main weaknesses. that should be drilled into the players' heads when preparing for the game. st joe's (pa) does not have one rim protector. during the first meeting, la salle recognized that and only took 12 threes while kimbrough did layup/dunk drills the entire game, going 12-13 from the field.
so what to they do this game? the team jacks up 12 three's in the first half alone, and only made 3 of them. all 3 were in the first 10 minutes of the game. i re-watched the first half and the three they did make were basically right at the arc (just over 22 feet). two of them were wide open, one was contested. out of the nine misses, only one (by moore) was wide open. the rest were either contested or from between 25-28 feet (and some of them were contested). all but one of them were taken at least 10 seconds left on the shot clock and most with 20+ seconds. it's one thing if someone like osuniyyi is sitting in the lane but against a team with not one shot blocker this is what you settle for?
so going into halftime, it's pretty apparent that maybe the coaching staff should do that thing called coaching adjustments and have the team focus on taking it to the basket for the rest of the game. well if that was even mentioned, the players weren't listening as they took 12 more threes in the second half and another 2 in overtime. none went in.
and defensively, the players started out with trapping and doubling at 3/4 court with little success. i understand that maybe that was done to speed them up so they would tire out faster and rush shots, but instead it led to lots of wide open shots and open lanes for them. very rarely was daly doubled (when he was, it usually produced a missed shot by another player). why not try a zone on occasion to keep daly and hall from getting into the lane. if la salle played even one possession of zone, i don't recall it.
like fordham, this was another inexcusable loss. i think most people on here would be nowhere near as down on the coach as they are now if he was able to win those two games. they would be 7-8 in conference play with a shot at the 9-10 seed and 10-12 overall. not great, but a whole lot better than what they're staring at now.
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Post by DE-LSU84 on Feb 23, 2021 11:20:09 GMT -5
Its been a couple of days since that God awful game and I just can't get it out of my head. But lets looks at this from a different perspective. For as badly as we perceived this team to have played, consider all the free points St. Joe was able to put on the board due to the very questionable technical fouls and we still battled back from what I believe was down by 7 with under three minutes to play. We go on a run, get some defensive stops and take a 1 point lead with about 27 seconds left. Now we can argue that we should of had a two point lead(Ray missed second of two) but either way, we play great defense and force a bad three point shot, box out and grab a big rebound and get fouled with 4.5 seconds left. That is a very positive and productive couple of minutes in the clutch.
Now for the negative that I just can't get out of my mind. The hugs, the smiles and the laughing when game is NOT over. Again, the missed foul shot (Kenney missed second of two) and the total lack of concentration on defense that allows a coast to coast layup is just beyond me. Thats the biggest problem for me. Remember that Coach Howard was not on the floor at that time, he did not have any input into what defensive strategy should have been implimented if the second foul was made or in this situation...missed. Assistant coaches need to be accountable. I would have loved to have been in the team huddle or know what instructions were given from the bench before the last foul shot. I think we all agree that after watching the last couple of minutes of regulation, this was a game we should have won.
I can't say this enough, for this team the little things matter, like letting your man slip behind you for an easy backdoor layup, making only one of two foul shots on three separate attempts, not playing defense on the final play. It all adds up. Players need to be accountable. The glass is not empty but not sure if it is half full either. I want to believe, but my faith is being tested.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 23, 2021 12:07:50 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to check all the teams and past seasons for comps (perhaps I'll have my intern), but I'd guess that our freshman/sophomore minutes percentage (64.9%) is at or near the top of the conference.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 23, 2021 12:11:05 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to check all the teams and past seasons for comps (perhaps I'll have my intern), but I'd guess that our freshman/sophomore minutes percentage (64.9%) is at or near the top of the conference. The coach's fault for having freshmen and sophomores that are better than his juniors and seniors.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 23, 2021 12:13:16 GMT -5
But also for having freshmen and sophomores that are better than other freshmen and sophomores causing some sophomores to transfer.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 23, 2021 13:32:40 GMT -5
But still not as good as the freshmen and sophomores at UMass and VCU
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 23, 2021 13:35:21 GMT -5
very rarely was daly doubled (when he was, it usually produced a missed shot by another player). why not try a zone on occasion to keep daly and hall from getting into the lane. if la salle played even one possession of zone, i don't recall it. Our coaching staff probably read the experts on here proclaiming that Daly stinks, so didn't game-plan for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 13:54:18 GMT -5
But also for having freshmen and sophomores that are better than other freshmen and sophomores causing some sophomores to transfer. The freshmen and sophomores dont get better as they move up so they either transfer or the new freshmen play over them. Next year will probably be the same thing. Welcome to the revolving door of a 11-15 program with promising freshmen that ultimately accomplish nothing.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 23, 2021 14:18:50 GMT -5
This program simply won't be better next year because our freshman and sophomores will be a year older.
We need more talent Better strategy coaching More discipline in our play, both offensively and defensively.
Next year will be like this year and the past 8 years if Ash doesn't change these things.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 23, 2021 14:24:11 GMT -5
The freshmen and sophomores dont get better as they move up so they either transfer or the new freshmen play over them. Next year will probably be the same thing. Welcome to the revolving door of a 11-15 program with promising freshmen that ultimately accomplish nothing How many recruiting classes has Howard had?
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 23, 2021 14:50:33 GMT -5
The worst part of this whole game was the text I received from my St. Joe's alum father today - "I expected a text about the game on Saturday. I guess it slipped your mind?"
Joke's on him though - I was going to use the winnings I expected from the game to purchase a nice Father's Day present for him.
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Post by Gnocchi on Feb 23, 2021 17:30:24 GMT -5
Players need to be accountable. The glass is not empty but not sure if it is half full either.
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Post by walkon on Feb 24, 2021 19:58:47 GMT -5
Hawks just gave Dayton an ass kicking
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Post by 23won on Feb 24, 2021 21:58:51 GMT -5
A lot of coaches/systems explicitly discourage mid-range jumpers. A lot of fair-minded mods put snarky trolls in the penalty box.
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Post by 23won on Feb 24, 2021 22:01:21 GMT -5
Its been a couple of days since that God awful game and I just can't get it out of my head. But lets looks at this from a different perspective. For as badly as we perceived this team to have played, consider all the free points St. Joe was able to put on the board due to the very questionable technical fouls and we still battled back from what I believe was down by 7 with under three minutes to play. We go on a run, get some defensive stops and take a 1 point lead with about 27 seconds left. Now we can argue that we should of had a two point lead(Ray missed second of two) but either way, we play great defense and force a bad three point shot, box out and grab a big rebound and get fouled with 4.5 seconds left. That is a very positive and productive couple of minutes in the clutch. Now for the negative that I just can't get out of my mind. The hugs, the smiles and the laughing when game is NOT over. Again, the missed foul shot (Kenney missed second of two) and the total lack of concentration on defense that allows a coast to coast layup is just beyond me. Thats the biggest problem for me. Remember that Coach Howard was not on the floor at that time, he did not have any input into what defensive strategy should have been implimented if the second foul was made or in this situation...missed. Assistant coaches need to be accountable. I would have loved to have been in the team huddle or know what instructions were given from the bench before the last foul shot. I think we all agree that after watching the last couple of minutes of regulation, this was a game we should have won. I can't say this enough, for this team the little things matter, like letting your man slip behind you for an easy backdoor layup, making only one of two foul shots on three separate attempts, not playing defense on the final play. It all adds up. Players need to be accountable. The glass is not empty but not sure if it is half full either. I want to believe, but my faith is being tested. Good points DEL
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Post by LaSallePal on Feb 26, 2021 6:08:09 GMT -5
I think it's worthwhile to remember that rivalry games can get real wacky real quick... on the other hand, beating Fordham by 37 and then losing by 8 to an interim coach on the job for roughly a week is the kind of prime basketball schizophrenia I've come to know and love from the Explorers.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 26, 2021 10:54:54 GMT -5
...on the other hand, beating Fordham by 37 and then losing by 8 to an interim coach on the job for roughly a week is the kind of prime basketball schizophrenia I've come to know and love from the Explorers. Know? Yes. Love? No.
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