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Post by fvp47 on Feb 20, 2021 16:30:59 GMT -5
I went back and looked at play by play. We had six fouls at the end of regulation. That included two Techs
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Post by glorydays on Feb 20, 2021 16:34:35 GMT -5
3 for 26 from three, no clue how to play the game! No confidence with coaching staff at this point, Ash cited facilities as a competitive handicap within the league, don't disagree. But lacking the ability to adjust game plan when things are not working is worse! [/qu The lack of facilities was another sign of excuse making in the zoom call. The context of his comment was about the quality of the facilities that the team gets to visit in the A-10 and that his players are aware of the quality of those facilities compared to ours. Now, if I am not mistaken Coach Howard was responding to a question and may not have actually brought up the topic. Getting tossed twice is a sign of a loss of self control. I understand the frustration especially up at Olean but you can only take this so far. See you next year, gents.
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Post by fvp47 on Feb 20, 2021 16:35:24 GMT -5
I should add that does nor excuse allowing one guy to go the length of the floor in 4.5 sec
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Post by kinesiology on Feb 20, 2021 16:46:58 GMT -5
Longtime lurker, first time poster. Class of ‘73, diehard fan since Hubie Marshall. Put up with the know it all moderators to keep tabs on recruits, injuries etc since Philly rags don’t seem interested in La Salle b-ball.
To me, this is a more interesting team than any of Giannini’s years except’13. Brickus, Kenney and Ray are fun to watch and root for. I think there’s promise for the future. Add some pieces maybe we can squeeze a 20 win season out.
That’s the absolute peak I can hope for in my lifetime. La Salle has always been the weak sister of the Big 5, support wise, both students and alums. A new arena, if it should ever happen, would always be half empty. Coupled with Germantown, La Salle can never recruit at even a mid major national level.
Last point, which triggered me to actually post: the clowns on this board who have ripped and downgraded Daly since he was in high school need to man up and admit that he’s a helluva college basketball player.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 20, 2021 16:48:25 GMT -5
I went back and looked at play by play. We had six fouls at the end of regulation. That included two Techs I thought we had 6 as well. The tech hurt in so many ways.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 20, 2021 16:52:59 GMT -5
Last point, which triggered me to actually post: the clowns on this board who have ripped and downgraded Daly since he was in high school need to man up and admit that he’s a helluva college basketball player. I NEVER understood this and would have taken him in a heart-beat. I believe the experts on this board called him, a "poor man's Jordan Price". He lit us up as a freshman at Delaware, and has continued to as a Hawk.
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Post by glorydays on Feb 20, 2021 17:14:01 GMT -5
Last point, which triggered me to actually post: the clowns on this board who have ripped and downgraded Daly since he was in high school need to man up and admit that he’s a helluva college basketball player. I NEVER understood this and would have taken him in a heart-beat. I believe the experts on this board called him, a "poor man's Jordan Price". He lit us up as a freshman at Delaware, and has continued to as a Hawk. Daly was Martin Ingelsby's first recruit at UD. It is my undrstanding that G was underwhelmed with Daly and wouldn't give him a serious look. Let me be honest. When I first saw Daly I thought his body type was not that of a D1 college basketball player. I thought the same thing about Kyle Schwarber (now a sleeker version of himself). What do I know?
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Post by kinesiology on Feb 20, 2021 17:22:03 GMT -5
Daly was Martin Ingelsby's first recruit at UD. It is my undrstanding that G was underwhelmed with Daly and wouldn't give him a serious look. Let me be honest. When I first saw Daly I thought his body type was not that of a D1 college basketball player. I thought the same thing about Kyle Schwarber (now a sleeker version of himself). What do I know? Learning how to do this. Actually he looks like Explorer b-baller Frank Doyle, class of ‘74
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 20, 2021 17:22:54 GMT -5
I’ve heard from a few people that his attitude is suspect. He’s clearly an effective scorer, but he’s going to finish his four-year collegiate career with 36 total wins.
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Post by kinesiology on Feb 20, 2021 17:34:43 GMT -5
I’ve heard from a few people that his attitude is suspect. He’s clearly an effective scorer, but he’s going to finish his four-year collegiate career with 36 total wins. Welp...so much for that manning up.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 20, 2021 17:37:22 GMT -5
Glad you’re here
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Post by glorydays on Feb 20, 2021 18:12:45 GMT -5
I’ve heard from a few people that his attitude is suspect. He’s clearly an effective scorer, but he’s going to finish his four-year collegiate career with 36 total wins. With the Covid rules, maybe he can back for year 6.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 20, 2021 18:34:15 GMT -5
Ash can get thrown out of 10 games a year for all I care, as long as we win...I just can't get over the fact that for the second time in 2 weeks, we laid an egg against a 1 win team. I have to think that's partially because we struggle to shoot threes, yet the offense is heavily dependent upon it, much to my chagrin.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 20, 2021 18:40:19 GMT -5
I’ve heard from a few people that his attitude is suspect. He’s clearly an effective scorer, but he’s going to finish his four-year collegiate career with 36 total wins. With the Covid rules, maybe he can back for year 6. He almost didn’t come back for year five so I doubt it.
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Post by golasalle on Feb 20, 2021 18:55:44 GMT -5
3 for 26 from three, no clue how to play the game! No confidence with coaching staff at this point, Ash cited facilities as a competitive handicap within the league, don't disagree. But lacking the ability to adjust game plan when things are not working is worse! Come on man, they scored 52 points in the paint. Most of those threes were taken in the flow of the offense. The shots just didn’t fall. 52 points in paint shows they were getting it inside when it was available and not just relying on jacking up threes.
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Post by walkon on Feb 20, 2021 19:15:21 GMT -5
Ash can get thrown out of 10 games a year for all I care, as long as we win...I just can't get over the fact that for the second time in 2 weeks, we laid an egg against a 1 win team. I have to think that's partially because we struggle to shoot threes, yet the offense is heavily dependent upon it, much to my chagrin. Been my complaint all season pal.
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Post by festushagan on Feb 20, 2021 19:17:56 GMT -5
Come on man, really Mr. Biden?
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Post by festushagan on Feb 20, 2021 19:28:45 GMT -5
Just kidding, very good point! Bottom line, team not very good, coaching suspect! 8-14 record and losing to a very poor team says it all
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Post by golasalle on Feb 20, 2021 19:29:17 GMT -5
Come on man, really Mr. Biden? Nice comeback Potsie
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Post by fvp47 on Feb 20, 2021 20:20:11 GMT -5
took a look at 3 point shooting. In non-conf games we were 38.3%. In all conf games through today we are at 32.09%. George Mason, 13.04%, St. Louis 17.86% and St.Joe 11.54% are the real disasters. For the last two games we are 14.8% That is after the three previous games with a combined avg of 39.2%.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Feb 20, 2021 20:28:55 GMT -5
It was clear by the look on the players faces that they thought we had the game won in regulation. After playing BB as long as these guys have, it's amazing they could feel that way with a 2 point lead and almost a full 4 seconds left. Did anyone get a really clear view of the shot trajectory on the goaltending? Was it definitely gonna go in? Because we've been known to miss layups on occasion. I believe we should be starting Kimbrough and getting the ball into him early and often. Moore just disappears for minutes at a time an has no animation. When Kimbrough gets an early basket his play seems to pick way up. I just don't get why they didn't use his breakout 24 point game against St. Joe as a recipe for the future. I've noticed he's made some nice pretty nice passes to cutters and his decision making is getting more solid. Maybe it would also free up the shooters a little better. I remember thinking that we finally had a very athletic center with nice hops and some real scoring skill. I don't think he even started the next game (although he might have).
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Feb 20, 2021 20:29:35 GMT -5
took a look at 3 point shooting. In non-conf games we were 38.3%. In all conf games through today we are at 32.09%. George Mason, 13.04%, St. Louis 17.86% and St.Joe 11.54% are the real disasters. For the last two games we are 14.8% That is after the three previous games with a combined avg of 39.2%. I think Davidson was a horrible night too...
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 20, 2021 20:36:26 GMT -5
Every season seems to be Groundhog Day.
I am really concerned with Ash’s handle on this program. It seems like it very fragile right now.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Feb 20, 2021 20:46:04 GMT -5
Ugh, I was not prepared for this loss. Thought we would win by 10, (even with Daly there). Then, position ourselves (so I hoped) for at least 1 win in the next 2 games and maybe lay some claim to being a mid tier A 10 team. And of course be better than the Fordhams and St Joes . Watching this game and the torturous way we played, in short, never able to grab any mo at times when it seemed there for the taking... watching D mistakes and open missed shots evaporate chances presented to gain control of the game at key times, and then giving the game away in the final seconds..... we are just not very good. At this point, obviously, hard to see us winning another game for the remainder. Winners hit key shots, take control, just not sure we have the guys to do that. (I'll leave the coaching critique to others) I cannot fault the fight and effort from our guys. They battle, never seem to give up. But the ability, ability to sustain a winning effort in my view is lacking. As commented all year, consistency, just does not seem to be there with the squad. The younger guys where the bulk of our talent lies, show encouraging flashes but just make too many mistakes and misfires at this point. Not A 10 good enough.
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Post by fvp47 on Feb 20, 2021 20:53:15 GMT -5
took a look at 3 point shooting. In non-conf games we were 38.3%. In all conf games through today we are at 32.09%. George Mason, 13.04%, St. Louis 17.86% and St.Joe 11.54% are the real disasters. For the last two games we are 14.8% That is after the three previous games with a combined avg of 39.2%. I think Davidson was a horrible night too... Davidson was 24%. I only counted games below 20%
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 20, 2021 21:06:16 GMT -5
I am really concerned with Ash’s handle on this program. It seems like it very fragile right now. I started to get concerned about this last season when Ed quit with a few games left. I was mocked on here for openly questioning whether Ash had a handle on the team and if there was a cultural issue in the program. Since then, Stone and Hikim have left the program, Ash has lost his temper twice and been kicked out of two games we were in, and we have lost to the bottom of the barrel in the A10. In year three, we've now gone from 9th, to 10th, to likely finishing in 11th place in the league.
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 20, 2021 21:06:45 GMT -5
Longtime lurker, first time poster. Class of ‘73, diehard fan since Hubie Marshall. Put up with the know it all moderators to keep tabs on recruits, injuries etc since Philly rags don’t seem interested in La Salle b-ball. Welcome to the board. Sorry you've had to "put up" with us all these years. As always, if anyone has specific problems with the board, us as Moderators, other posters, etc., you can feel free to message one of us or all of us and discuss it. We've been doing this since 2013 and doing our best. I rarely ever edit posts or delete things, and any time that does happen, we discuss it first and then notify the poster(s) involved. If you're just referring to us being "know it alls" based on like our individual comments on threads, then I don't know what to tell you. Most of my comments these days are either "We're down 6 with 11:04 left in the game, Media Time Out" or horrendously shitty jokes designed to make people roll their eyes when they see them.
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 20, 2021 21:14:31 GMT -5
I thought the 2nd Technical was pretty weak today, but once you have one, you need to really be on your best behavior. Especially because those FT's right there were costly. It's actually pretty surprising we weren't buried after going down 7 after the 2 Tech's and other Free Throws got made. But he's now been thrown out twice in our last couple games. That's an extreme rarity in college basketball.
I'm trying to kind of consider this whole season just a totally bizarre year and not draw any inferences either way going forward, because also I think we all know there's not gonna be another coaching change in the next couple years barring some really drastic occurrences. But yeah, losing games like today, just a few weeks after the Fordham loss, is enough to kill whatever optimism you may have had after some of our wins like St. Louis and Dayton. I guess the main thing I'm hanging my hopes on is that most of our key guys right now are Freshmen and Sophomores.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 20, 2021 22:10:17 GMT -5
Longtime lurker, first time poster. Class of ‘73, diehard fan since Hubie Marshall. Put up with the know it all moderators to keep tabs on recruits, injuries etc since Philly rags don’t seem interested in La Salle b-ball. To me, this is a more interesting team than any of Giannini’s years except’13. Brickus, Kenney and Ray are fun to watch and root for. I think there’s promise for the future. Add some pieces maybe we can squeeze a 20 win season out. That’s the absolute peak I can hope for in my lifetime. La Salle has always been the weak sister of the Big 5, support wise, both students and alums. A new arena, if it should ever happen, would always be half empty. Coupled with Germantown, La Salle can never recruit at even a mid major national level. Last point, which triggered me to actually post: the clowns on this board who have ripped and downgraded Daly since he was in high school need to man up and admit that he’s a helluva college basketball player. We're all know it alls here. Every last one of us. You prove the point by stating that if someone doesn't agree with YOUR opinion that Daly is a helluva college basketball player than we don't know crap. Daly is a selfish, volume shooting basketball player. That's this know it alls opinion. Welcome to the board fellow clown.
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Post by 23won on Feb 20, 2021 22:50:43 GMT -5
I actually think ash has some good lineups going L and all. He needs to dial in on the coaching game prep and who has a green light on 3s which is something I have been saying for a while.
Yes, we got points in and from touches in the paint. Our 3s from the high volume shooters was horrific. Need to keep going into the paint, cut off ball and work good mid range 2s. If we did that we’d have won by double digits.
We can make some noise with a few caveats. Jig, Kenney and Ray are a great core. Jared seems to play well in that group both passing and finishing. Jack is playing well but his three play in A10 play is horrid as is Beatty. Those two need to take better high quality shots mostly in the 2 mid range where they can get open but don’t go there enough. Gill needs more minutes over Beatty.
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