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Post by DE-LSU84 on Jan 19, 2021 15:53:25 GMT -5
Lets try and put some perspective on the last 4 games. Has the team playing below or well below expectations, absolutely!!! Prior to the St. Joe game, La Salle was jacking up three's like it was their job going 7/24, 3/23 and 6/25
respectively. However, even the color commentator stated the we were more disciplined by passing up the three and going to the basket more. Hence we were only 5/12( still a good %) on three's and shot 22 foul shots. I believe this was the most foul shots we have taken in a game this year. The only problem with that was we don't shoot fouls well at all. If you disregard the last 4 minutes and I know that is hard, but we were up 20, this team may have turned the corner. My hope is this new type of play, may not yield a huge difference in wins, but will at least keep us in games and avoid the carnage that we have all witnessed this past two weeks.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 19, 2021 15:54:50 GMT -5
His guy G really had players stick around. You know, except for the ones that didn't. Heard about the Hikim thing a month ago. Didn't post because my sources aren't as solid as they used to be. Don't think this will be the last departure for the team, but maybe the last in-season one. You love just saying G is my guy. But this has nothing to do with G. You just like to use that as a deflector for a coach that hasn't done anything to show even remote promise with a program that continues to go downhill. Try looking at a situation without the lens of G. You might be able to see things a little more clearly and be logical. I mean, I'm looking at a coach in his third year who inherited a team with what, 1.5 A10-level starters on his roster? No Jermaine Thomas or Steve Smith's to inherit for him. So it's a complete rebuild. And he is your guy G. I know that he is. And ever since he got canned, you've been pretty vocal about your dislike for the current coach. Which, fine, your prerogative. The difference between where you're at now and where I was at in 2011 is that your guy G had twice as much time to do nothing of substance. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 19, 2021 15:55:43 GMT -5
I liked his explosiveness and hoped he could be coached up by his junior year to make good decisions and be a solid point guard for us in the A10. I agree he's an A-10 level PG, but the problem is Brickus already looks better. His choice is either to already accept he's a backup or to move on elsewhere to a roster that doesn't have his starting position blocked for the rest of his eligibility. If we got a kid like him the year before Duren, the same thing would have happened. Can't play two 5-10 guys (and I'd bet they're 5-9) the entire game. |
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Post by las71 on Jan 19, 2021 15:57:48 GMT -5
I agree with 23won. The transfer portal with what looks will be immediate eligibility next season has changed everything. Kids want to play. Brickus beat him out and is only a freshman so his minutes were shrinking. Teams give 13 scholarships but 13 kids aren't going to play and once they realize this is not the best place for them they will leave. I think this is as it should be and I don't think it has anything specifically to do with La Salle or Ash. It's happening everywhere and I don't see that changing. I wish him well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 15:59:17 GMT -5
I liked his explosiveness and hoped he could be coached up by his junior year to make good decisions and be a solid point guard for us in the A10. I agree he's an A-10 level PG, but the problem is Brickus already looks better. His choice is either to already accept he's a backup or to move on elsewhere to a roster that doesn't have his starting position blocked for the rest of his eligibility. If we got a kid like him the year before Duren, the same thing would have happened. We had Sam Mills and Tyreek. We also had Ramon. Essentially 3 PGs under 6'2. Sure Ramon was a little more of a SG, but played plenty of point. There is always room on the floor for 2 good point guards. Especially on a team this lost. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 16:01:30 GMT -5
You love just saying G is my guy. But this has nothing to do with G. You just like to use that as a deflector for a coach that hasn't done anything to show even remote promise with a program that continues to go downhill. Try looking at a situation without the lens of G. You might be able to see things a little more clearly and be logical. I mean, I'm looking at a coach in his third year who inherited a team with what, 1.5 A10-level starters on his roster? No Jermaine Thomas or Steve Smith's to inherit for him. So it's a complete rebuild. And he is your guy G. I know that he is. And ever since he got canned, you've been pretty vocal about your dislike for the current coach. Which, fine, your prerogative. The difference between where you're at now and where I was at in 2011 is that your guy G had twice as much time to do nothing of substance. I was optimistic last year. When you lost your own recruits this early in your tenure, it's a red flag. I also was optimistic in Year 1, just thought Shaggy was not going to help us win games in the A10. It wasn't a coaching thing. |
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Jan 19, 2021 16:27:45 GMT -5
I ask again - any comments on the assistant coaches?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 16:41:23 GMT -5
I ask again - any comments on the assistant coaches? I think there should be a ton of scrutiny for them. I haven't seen a single player get better over the course of 3 years. I think Jack Clark will in due time, but the freshman that played a lot last year should have gotten better this year. They did not, and that is why we see 2 already out. I don't know who has each responsibility, but if you look at this roster, it looks like they are 12 guys that showed up to the gym the first time together every game day and the staff is just trying to mix and match pieces with no real plan, strategy, focus, discipline, system or training. Obviously that goes back to Ash, but disappointing to say the least. I think Donnie is probably a decent recruiter. He is a great guy and very like able. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 19, 2021 16:46:24 GMT -5
We had Sam Mills and Tyreek. We also had Ramon. Essentially 3 PGs under 6'2. Sure Ramon was a little more of a SG, but played plenty of point. There is always room on the floor for 2 good point guards. Especially on a team this lost. Yes, we had Mills who never played the point for us and Ramon who wasn't a point guard. That's not the same as having two PG-only types, or atleast two completely incompatible backcourt mates. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 16:52:57 GMT -5
We had Sam Mills and Tyreek. We also had Ramon. Essentially 3 PGs under 6'2. Sure Ramon was a little more of a SG, but played plenty of point. There is always room on the floor for 2 good point guards. Especially on a team this lost. Yes, we had Mills who never played the point for us and Ramon who wasn't a point guard. That's not the same as having two PG-only types, or atleast two completely incompatible backcourt mates. I mean Jhamir Brickus is a 2,000+ point scorer in high school. I wouldnt say he's exactly a pass first guard. Also, the comment was someone saying based on height it wouldnt be feasible. We had Ramon at 6'2, Tyrone at 6'1, Sam at 6'2 and Tyreek at 6'. They averaged over 100 minutes a game. Any idea how that team did? and how much did Ash try Jhamir and Ayinde together? |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 19, 2021 17:06:16 GMT -5
So four players, one true PG, averaged half of the 200 minutes per game. What does that have to do with two under 6'0 players who can't maximize their skillsets together even before getting into the mismatch issues?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 17:12:14 GMT -5
So four players, one true PG, averaged half of the 200 minutes per game. What does that have to do with two under 6'0 players who can't maximize their skillsets together even before getting into the mismatch issues? How many minutes have they played together that allowed you to assess their inability to play together? what was the efficiency on that line up? Two playmaking point guards, one can shoot, both can get to the basket. I'm failing to see the issue. "Mills received a rating of four stars out of five from Scout.com, which ranks him as the nation's No. 21 prospect at point guard." He and Tyreek played a lot of minutes together through 4 years. A LOT. both point guards. Maybe a total of 2 inches taller than Ayinde and Jhamir? seems like a bit of a stretch to say they cannot play togerher. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 19, 2021 17:16:50 GMT -5
Sam Mills was 3" taller than either of the current guys. That's "a lot of inches" in basketball.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 19, 2021 17:18:07 GMT -5
Sam Mills was 3" taller than either of the current guys. That's "a lot of inches" in basketball. not just basketball.... |
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Post by haze202 on Jan 19, 2021 18:09:23 GMT -5
Wish it wasn't happening, will miss him. Gill and Brickus obviously moved ahead of Hikim and were taking the minutes. It will be interesting to see where he lands. I think Gill had 2 of the worst shots i've ever seen in Division 1 basketball yesterday too. Actually maybe over all levels of college basketball. You also saw him score 15pts in 19 min too. |
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Post by 23won on Jan 19, 2021 18:59:32 GMT -5
If the players who can't get solid minutes aren't good enough to go elsewhere, that's damning for his recruiting. If the players who can't get solid minutes are good enough to go elsewhere, that's damning for his coaching. And I'm sure if players who can't get solid minutes are good enough to go elsewhere but don't, that's damning for their self-motivation or something. It's not so binary that these are absolute truths. We're talking teens here during an oddball pandemic year. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 19, 2021 19:00:58 GMT -5
No, I'm talking about from the perspective of some here and how they analyze Howard.
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Post by 3ball on Jan 19, 2021 19:30:53 GMT -5
I think we are recruiting too many of the same type of interchangeable players. Similar to the time G thought he could win with five 6-5 guys such as Rodney, Yves, Barrett, Ruben. Look at how that worked out. We didn’t get better until we combined the Duren, Mills, Ramon group with decent bigs in Wright and Zack.
Brickus is a natural scorer who needs to shoot more. I still think Clark will turn it around. Two years of rust is a lot to work off. Everyone else should have a more defined role, with Ray as your glue guy- like DJ back in 13.
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Post by explorerman on Jan 19, 2021 19:49:09 GMT -5
Does anyone think Hikim should get more PT than Brickus?
That is the answer to the transfer.. Can not blame Hikim at all either... He wants to play.. Any kid would want to.. If Hikim wants consistent time at a A-10 or better his shot has to improve, I was disappointed to see that it did not during his time here..
Having a PG whom struggles to shoot a perimeter shot really hurts the offense... Allows for really aggressive help defense while collapsing down low..
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 19, 2021 20:10:30 GMT -5
If Hikim wants consistent time at a A-10 or better his shot has to improve, I was disappointed to see that it did not during his time here.. 2019-20 3pt% - 26.3 2020-21 3pt% - 57.1 |
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 19, 2021 20:56:17 GMT -5
I ask again - any comments on the assistant coaches? I think there should be a ton of scrutiny for them. I haven't seen a single player get better over the course of 3 years. I think Jack Clark will in due time, but the freshman that played a lot last year should have gotten better this year. They did not, and that is why we see 2 already out. I don't know who has each responsibility, but if you look at this roster, it looks like they are 12 guys that showed up to the gym the first time together every game day and the staff is just trying to mix and match pieces with no real plan, strategy, focus, discipline, system or training. Obviously that goes back to Ash, but disappointing to say the least. I think Donnie is probably a decent recruiter. He is a great guy and very like able. Seeing how it hasn't been 3 years and his first recruiting class is half way through it's second season that's kind of tough. |
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Post by heftyexpl on Jan 19, 2021 21:30:47 GMT -5
Hate hearing hikim is transferring. Loved his energy. What makes me most angry about him leaving is that im sure he was unhappy about playing time. Imo he should have stolen minutes from Beatty and Kenney.
Im not saying this because i dislike those two players, but because id rather a guard who can dribble drive and facilitate over a guard that can just shoot.
This stinks. Ash should have recognized hikim's attribute and played him more
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 19, 2021 21:32:49 GMT -5
You can't play two guys that are extremely short at the same time. So his minutes would eat into Brickus's minutes. Nothing more to it than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 9:52:14 GMT -5
You can't play two guys that are extremely short at the same time. So his minutes would eat into Brickus's minutes. Nothing more to it than that. Don’t tell Chris Mooney that at Richmond. Gilyard is 5’9 and Blake Francis is a generous 6’0. But let’s keep pushing the narrative that you can’t win in the A10 with 2 undersized guards. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 10:14:32 GMT -5
You can't play two guys that are extremely short at the same time. So his minutes would eat into Brickus's minutes. Nothing more to it than that. Umass 2013-2014 Chaz Williams 5’8 Jabarie Hinds 5’11 Trey Davis 6’0 All 3 were huge contributors. Ohh that team went 23-9. Do you have any facts that support two 6’0 guards can’t play together? Or is it just your midget mind can’t comprehend anything a little atypical. I won’t speak for everyone on this board, but I’d bet having a season like Richmond this year or umass in 2013-2014 would make us pretty happy. I just took teams that I knew off the top of my head, but your claims are rooted in your own little brain without any basis for facts, which doesn’t surprise me anymore. |
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 20, 2021 10:15:43 GMT -5
Kevin Anderson was 6"0 and led Richmond to the Sweet 16.
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Post by 23won on Jan 20, 2021 10:58:05 GMT -5
Lots of apples and orange arguments here.
UR has a 1 and a short pure 2. That's different from Ayinde and Jig, who are more of a pass first 1. I agree Jig should shoot more and i hope he will - his #s are very good.
Ayinde looked tentative and different this year. I wonder if he was playing "not to lose" or "not to screw up" due to the competition. He did not play with confidence most of the year. That's on him.
Jig did play with confidence and shows a lot of upside. He needs more minutes. I think he is our guy. We just need to keep him happy. With the Covid year, he could be a five year player and really lift our program. He could be a recurring ESPN top 10 play of the game guy!
Jig is someone to build around especially if we can get a few transfers that can break their man down and score the ball. Those additions plus Jig, Gill, Clark, Ray, Moore, Jared (+1 year), Kenney give me some hope.
I wish people would stop the complaining. Ash has a tough job. Let's not make it tougher. 3-4 now with room to finish with 7-8 A-10 wins, possibly 9. That's progress. Let's get behind it.
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Post by calsufan on Jan 20, 2021 11:12:39 GMT -5
Nicely said, 23won.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 20, 2021 11:28:44 GMT -5
Its all disingenuous anyway. If Howard were running Brickus and Hikim out there for 30 minutes each, he'd be whining about whoever was sitting and matchups.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 20, 2021 12:03:44 GMT -5
Its all disingenuous anyway. If Howard were running Brickus and Hikim out there for 30 minutes each, he'd be whining about whoever was sitting and matchups. winning makes whining go away |
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