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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 15, 2020 12:24:19 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Dec 15, 2020 12:46:11 GMT -5
He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? Probably the same world where "some posters" might have criticized the coach if he had prioritized developing Stone at the expense of a different player. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Dec 15, 2020 15:20:09 GMT -5
He's gonna go somewhere and be decent. He has a skill set, you could just tell he was stripped of all of his confidence, the offense is not functional and he wasnt being utilized properly at all. Him transferring was no doubt best for him, I'm glad he did because he absolutely could be productive. You don't find 6'10 shooters everywhere. Disappointed Ash wasted that one and it's not that some studs rolled in and took time from him. where I thought Ed comes a dime a dozen, undersized big with a decent motor, you dont find a 6'10 shooter. Not saying Stone was elite and all conference, but I see some more potential there than Ed who was really a 6'6 "big". He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? he's played a whopping 300 minutes of college basketball so far, while being hurt for a good portion of his freshman season. and his percentage from two was 44% if you want to get technical about it. 1-3 this season and 21-47 last season from inside the arc. that's a better percentage than 2/3 of the current roster. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 15:24:47 GMT -5
He's gonna go somewhere and be decent. He has a skill set, you could just tell he was stripped of all of his confidence, the offense is not functional and he wasnt being utilized properly at all. Him transferring was no doubt best for him, I'm glad he did because he absolutely could be productive. You don't find 6'10 shooters everywhere. Disappointed Ash wasted that one and it's not that some studs rolled in and took time from him. where I thought Ed comes a dime a dozen, undersized big with a decent motor, you dont find a 6'10 shooter. Not saying Stone was elite and all conference, but I see some more potential there than Ed who was really a 6'6 "big". He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? I know you like disputing any single thing I say, but by all accounts he was touted as a shooter. I said he didnt do that and I believe that was a result of ash having no confidence in him. But in 2019 and 2020 at every open practice, golf outing, etc. anytime you heard Ash talk about him he referenced his shooting ability. What the hell did they sell you he was? a bruiser on the block? Because I think everyone here would say he was advertised as a shooter, obviously he didn't live up to that. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 15, 2020 15:28:05 GMT -5
He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? he's played a whopping 300 minutes of college basketball so far, while being hurt for a good portion of his freshman season. and his percentage from two was 44% if you want to get technical about it. 1-3 this season and 21-47 last season from inside the arc. that's a better percentage than 2/3 of the current roster. Apologies on the 2pt %, I grabbed FG by mistake. And 44% for a big man is not "good." It's not bad, but not good. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 15, 2020 15:34:35 GMT -5
He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? I know you like disputing any single thing I say, but by all accounts he was touted as a shooter. I said he didnt do that and I believe that was a result of ash having no confidence in him. But in 2019 and 2020 at every open practice, golf outing, etc. anytime you heard Ash talk about him he referenced his shooting ability. What the hell did they sell you he was? a bruiser on the block? Because I think everyone here would say he was advertised as a shooter, obviously he didn't live up to that.
And stop it with the "you like disputing any single thing I say" crap. You're a relic of the Giannini era. Go check out your old posts. When you were at the school, you propped up every mediocre player on every Giannini team as the next great thing. Now, since your guy has been canned, your desire is to either tear down the current coach or clearly, as evidenced by your posts in this thread, blame him when the kid averaging the 11th most minutes on the team transfers. If you're going to talk like this, you should at least acknowledge that you were rosy throughout all of the bad Giannini years. You know, all the ones where Ramon Galloway wasn't on the team. |
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 15, 2020 15:40:57 GMT -5
He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"? Probably the same world where "some posters" might have criticized the coach if he had prioritized developing Stone at the expense of a different player. I think his rep coming out of HS was a big guy who could shoot from the perimeter. Haven't checked his stats. But he was a 3 star recruit, who our coach wanted and landed. But that aside. Others might feel differently but for me I am not critical of the coach in anyway about this. IF, Stone's issues are his minutes, I've watched all our games and his play at this point has not earned anymore time than he has gotten from where I sit. But I am still dissapointed. I am looking forward to the day when I too can be cavalier about losing a guy like this. This is La Salle. I sure hope I see that day when we can get a 6-11 big who comes in and does not need at least 2 years of development just to become at least serviceable. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 15:55:54 GMT -5
I know you like disputing any single thing I say, but by all accounts he was touted as a shooter. I said he didnt do that and I believe that was a result of ash having no confidence in him. But in 2019 and 2020 at every open practice, golf outing, etc. anytime you heard Ash talk about him he referenced his shooting ability. What the hell did they sell you he was? a bruiser on the block? Because I think everyone here would say he was advertised as a shooter, obviously he didn't live up to that.
And stop it with the "you like disputing any single thing I say" crap. You're a relic of the Giannini era. Go check out your old posts. When you were at the school, you propped up every mediocre player on every Giannini team as the next great thing. Now, since your guy has been canned, your desire is to either tear down the current coach or clearly, as evidenced by your posts in this thread, blame him when the kid averaging the 11th most minutes on the team transfers. If you're going to talk like this, you should at least acknowledge that you were rosy throughout all of the bad Giannini years. You know, all the ones where Ramon Galloway wasn't on the team. Again, Ash called him a shooter. Kyle Griffin called him a shooter. Kale called him a shooter. Every event I attended (which was many) with someone on staff, he was touted as a shooter. So that's not me just throwing shit against a wall. And I never once disputed the G firing when it happened, not a single time. And while I'm not going to go back to every post, I'd encourage you to so you can check your memory, but I said it was time to get rid of G and I said Ash was a good hire. The kid averaging the 11th most minutes transferred. I also questioned when Ed did, he wasnt averaging the 11th most minutes. But there was also a lot of hype around Stone (yes, as a shooter too) and he looked like he could shoot, there were certainly flashes. But he looked like not getting time, and his confidence was just crushed. And that's what I was criticizing Ash for. Not saying that's the sole reason, I do think he will turn out to have a decent collegiate career if he so chooses. If he does, let's see how you remember my comments here. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 15, 2020 16:38:38 GMT -5
"Stone averaged 25 points, 11 rebounds and 2.5 blocks in his final year at Southmoreland.
A big name on the AAU circuit, he had been playing with the local ITPS team, which made the adidas Gold Gauntlet, but he later switched to B Maze Elite from Tennessee. His game became more well-rounded as he spent more time on the perimeter on many occasions, and developed into a formidable outside shooter."
La Salle's 4th highest recruited player over the last 10 years.
Held offers from Auburn, Penn State, Pitt, Houston, Kansas State, Duquesne, South Carolina and a number of mid/low majors. Best of luck to Brandon. It just wasn't the right fit. Good luck to the young man.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 15, 2020 17:29:02 GMT -5
I think his rep coming out of HS was a big guy who could shoot from the perimeter. Haven't checked his stats. But he was a 3 star recruit, who our coach wanted and landed. But that aside. Others might feel differently but for me I am not critical of the coach in anyway about this. IF, Stone's issues are his minutes, I've watched all our games and his play at this point has not earned anymore time than he has gotten from where I sit. But I am still dissapointed. I am looking forward to the day when I too can be cavalier about losing a guy like this. This is La Salle. I sure hope I see that day when we can get a 6-11 big who comes in and does not need at least 2 years of development just to become at least serviceable. Yeah, I rarely love when someone transfers out, but I feel like there's always a need to blame here. Either the kid is selfish or stupid for leaving or the coach screwed up. Kids transfer, its life and if Stone was being given 28 minutes at his current rates maybe someone else would be out instead. |
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Post by explorerentourage on Dec 15, 2020 20:07:25 GMT -5
Brandon Stone already committed to Robert Morris per his instagram
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 15, 2020 20:21:27 GMT -5
Brandon Stone already committed to Robert Morris per his instagram so that’s basically going home for him right? |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Dec 15, 2020 21:23:21 GMT -5
Brandon Stone already committed to Robert Morris per his instagram It's nice that we live in a society now where that statement doesn't raise eyebrows. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Dec 15, 2020 22:17:10 GMT -5
Former Southmoreland star Brandon Stone transferring to Robert Morristriblive.com/sports/former-southmoreland-star-brandon-stone-transferring-to-robert-morris/In a matter of four days, Brandon Stone set his college basketball career on a new course.
On Saturday, he left the La Salle campus. On Monday, he entered the NCAA Transfer Portal.
By Tuesday, he had a new suitor: Robert Morris.
Yes, it happened that quickly for the former Southmoreland star, who was seeing limited minutes as a sophomore at La Salle.
“I just didn’t think it was a good fit for me anymore,” the 6-foot-11, 205-pound Stone said of La Salle. “I wasn’t happy and wanted to play closer to home so my family could see me play more often.”
He will move to campus for the second semester and will have to sit out the rest of this season. He will have three more years of eligibility.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 16, 2020 0:35:43 GMT -5
Brandon Stone already committed to Robert Morris per his instagram That was quick...I guess that's what the transfer portal is designed to do. |
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Post by 23won on Dec 16, 2020 5:45:49 GMT -5
I know you like disputing any single thing I say, but by all accounts he was touted as a shooter. I said he didnt do that and I believe that was a result of ash having no confidence in him. But in 2019 and 2020 at every open practice, golf outing, etc. anytime you heard Ash talk about him he referenced his shooting ability. What the hell did they sell you he was? a bruiser on the block? Because I think everyone here would say he was advertised as a shooter, obviously he didn't live up to that.
And stop it with the "you like disputing any single thing I say" crap. You're a relic of the Giannini era. Go check out your old posts. When you were at the school, you propped up every mediocre player on every Giannini team as the next great thing. Now, since your guy has been canned, your desire is to either tear down the current coach or clearly, as evidenced by your posts in this thread, blame him when the kid averaging the 11th most minutes on the team transfers. If you're going to talk like this, you should at least acknowledge that you were rosy throughout all of the bad Giannini years. You know, all the ones where Ramon Galloway wasn't on the team. Joe, I think your post is out of line here. 15 is not tearing down the current coach, he's not a lingering G apologist and he DID support the Ash hire. He's calling the current situation as he sees it and his points have merit. |
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Post by 23won on Dec 16, 2020 5:54:58 GMT -5
The Morris move likely confirms my earlier suspicion that it's tough to be far from home and not fit in or feel comfortable especially when you are one of 14 students on a campus designed for 4,000 to be on campus.
I hope he does well as he seemed like a good kid, albeit maybe a little shy and too reserved to get the Ash style of coaching. I don't see any villains here, just a kid looking out for his best interests. I thought he was a year away from fitting in as an A10 player, though I wonder whether he is capable of being an A10 force and why people lament this type of departure so much. It is happening non-stop in college sports.
I hope Brandon is happy and benefits from playing close to family. I see him as an 8 pt, 11 pt and 13 pt kind of guy at RM. Will be somewhat interesting to follow, but I am more interested in seeing how Jig, Jack and Anwar can develop as a core around current and future players that can advance this program in the A10 standings.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 16, 2020 6:38:45 GMT -5
Joe, I think your post is out of line here. 15 is not tearing down the current coach, he's not a lingering G apologist and he DID support the Ash hire. He's calling the current situation as he sees it and his points have merit. Noted. This is the guy that posted “FIRE ASH” ten days ago. Def not tearing down the coach. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 7:21:51 GMT -5
Joe, I think your post is out of line here. 15 is not tearing down the current coach, he's not a lingering G apologist and he DID support the Ash hire. He's calling the current situation as he sees it and his points have merit. Noted. This is the guy that posted “FIRE ASH” ten days ago. Def not tearing down the coach. Joe doesn't do well with jokes. no one after 2 games has credibility with saying fire the coach. Joe has his panties all in a bunch. |
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Post by jellybean on Dec 16, 2020 9:05:34 GMT -5
Player Development?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 16, 2020 9:31:26 GMT -5
Noted. This is the guy that posted “FIRE ASH” ten days ago. Def not tearing down the coach. Joe doesn't do well with jokes. no one after 2 games has credibility with saying fire the coach. Joe has his panties all in a bunch. You didn’t use the sarcasm font and I think you are, quite frankly, full of it. |
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Post by calsufan on Dec 16, 2020 10:13:17 GMT -5
Noted. This is the guy that posted “FIRE ASH” ten days ago. Def not tearing down the coach. Joe doesn't do well with jokes. no one after 2 games has credibility with saying fire the coach. Joe has his panties all in a bunch. Or there's this. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Dec 16, 2020 18:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by 1801olney on Dec 16, 2020 19:24:03 GMT -5
I thought the same, but I read the player has to be currently on the roster.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 16, 2020 19:32:07 GMT -5
I thought the same, but I read the player has to be currently on the roster. Yeah the alternative would be ridiculous. |
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Dec 16, 2020 20:43:42 GMT -5
Can't play for two programs in one season
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 19:59:18 GMT -5
Stone transferring to Robert Morris
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 5, 2021 21:42:38 GMT -5
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 10, 2022 10:03:24 GMT -5
Since we're tracking former players...
Stone had a rock solid night starting for Delaware State. 15 points and 8 boards in a 95-57 loss to Virginia Tech on Monday.
Del State plays Nova on Monday night and the game will be on FS2.
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Post by glorydays on Nov 11, 2022 7:37:16 GMT -5
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