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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 13, 2020 20:54:47 GMT -5
Per the La Salle basketball podcast and apparently his Instagram.
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Post by Happy Fortune on Dec 13, 2020 20:58:05 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 13, 2020 21:01:37 GMT -5
I don’t know how Instagram works but good scoop if it’s true.
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Post by Happy Fortune on Dec 13, 2020 21:03:10 GMT -5
I wasn't watching the bench intently but I didn't see him in the DAC on Saturday.
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Post by broderickpresident on Dec 13, 2020 21:12:21 GMT -5
38 points in his first 5 games of his career and 41 in the next 24
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 13, 2020 21:23:04 GMT -5
Yeah I wish him the best but id rather have the scholarship from a basketball standpoint.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 13, 2020 21:30:33 GMT -5
Good luck to him. He can help a MAAC Level school. I agree the scholarship is more important at this point.
The transfer scene is going to be nuts for us as well as others.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 13, 2020 21:36:13 GMT -5
Again, this was one slide on an Instagram story, a vessel that I'm not super familiar with. I believe it, but until it has been confirmed by the school lets just keep that in mind.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 13, 2020 22:57:47 GMT -5
That’s life, good luck to him. Hope he’s the next Partin.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 14, 2020 6:10:08 GMT -5
38 points in his first 5 games of his career and 41 in the next 24 Wasn't he on the all tournament team of that tournament we won last year?
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Post by olneyman on Dec 14, 2020 8:45:19 GMT -5
38 points in his first 5 games of his career and 41 in the next 24 Wasn't he on the all tournament team of that tournament we won last year? Croswell was MVP; Shaggy on all tournament team. Hope your family is doing okay Lun
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Post by sweat83 on Dec 14, 2020 9:40:48 GMT -5
Probably realized there were limited minutes for him going forward. Tegra may have even bumped back a bit as well.
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Post by las71 on Dec 14, 2020 9:41:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see him go. I think he can develop into a very good 3 point shooter given a regular role. I think part of our problem is we have too many of the same type player. Sometimes it's good to have interchangeable parts but it also can prevent players from establishing a regular role. Guys will have to start separating themselves for us to get better.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 14, 2020 11:40:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see him go. I think he can develop into a very good 3 point shooter given a regular role. I think part of our problem is we have too many of the same type player. Sometimes it's good to have interchangeable parts but it also can prevent players from establishing a regular role. Guys will have to start separating themselves for us to get better. Spot on 71. I said that in an earlier thread. I have 4 guys right now that should play as many minutes as they can while the rest need to earn their minutes instead of being given an automatic 20 minutes a night. That will never work so hopefully Ash is beginning to put all of that together.
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Post by bigjohnny2 on Dec 14, 2020 11:40:20 GMT -5
38 points in his first 5 games of his career and 41 in the next 24 Wasn't he on the all tournament team of that tournament we won last year? He had a big game in the tournament putting up 17 pts. in a short time.
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Post by las71 on Dec 14, 2020 11:50:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see him go. I think he can develop into a very good 3 point shooter given a regular role. I think part of our problem is we have too many of the same type player. Sometimes it's good to have interchangeable parts but it also can prevent players from establishing a regular role. Guys will have to start separating themselves for us to get better. Spot on 71. I said that in an earlier thread. I have 4 guys right now that should play as many minutes as they can while the rest need to earn their minutes instead of being given an automatic 20 minutes a night. That will never work so hopefully Ash is beginning to put all of that together. Part of the problem may just be the type of player we are able to recruit so we get a lot of tweeners.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 14, 2020 13:43:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see him go. I think he can develop into a very good 3 point shooter given a regular role. I think part of our problem is we have too many of the same type player. Sometimes it's good to have interchangeable parts but it also can prevent players from establishing a regular role. Guys will have to start separating themselves for us to get better. What are you talking about "too many similar type players."? Stone is a 6-11 Stretch 4 forward who could hot a 3. How many of them do we have? How many are there in the A10? My issue with Stone is his body. Just looking at him you could tell last year that he would struggle badly in the A10. He will be pounded and pushed around. He either should NOT have been recruited or he should have redshirted last year and start to play a little this year. He came in at 200 and leaves a year and a half later at 220. Clifton Moore started at Indiana in almost the same situation (200 lbs). Sat for two years and transferred for another. Entered La Salle at 220 and is now 240. Some players need time to develope and don't until they are in their Junior season. All I heard was Stone was a great "pick and pop" guy. Watch how Clark and him will play this great game. I think they ran 3 plays and abandoned that for whatever reason. I wish the youngster good luck and hope he can add another 20-25 pounds of muscle to his frame. Back to the "similar" types comment. Jack Clark is a 6-9 G who was our PF on Saturday against Drexel where he had 13 rebounds that one game. 6-9 GUARD Christian Ray is 6-6 and listed as a G but because of matchups plays PF a lot. Moore is 6-10 and Izay is 6-11. Wouldn't say they are similar. Kimbrough is 6-8 and PF. Kenney and Gill at 6-4 are different. Spencer is 6-6 and supposedly a 3 point specialist who isn't really special. Beatty 6-2 plays a combo guard. Brickus and Hikim are small PG but different. The A10 is a very diverse league. You have to have the ability to match up. Need versatile players.
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Post by 23won on Dec 14, 2020 13:54:43 GMT -5
I'd hope they could work it out to keep him in the program/ make him happy.
It's gotta be really tough as a student-athlete with Covid. Medical protocols, being away from home and having 20 students on campus has got to be tough if (1) you are not fiting in (or just feel that way) or (2) you are not getting the PT you think you deserve.
I think he is a year away from being an A10 player. This used to be a "normal" development timeline for a big regardless of whether they are a shooter or traditional big. Either way, you have to play good D to get PT. I think that is a year away.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 14, 2020 14:00:49 GMT -5
For the "rotation? crowd (which ended years ago in the college game. Days of a coach like Jack Kraft playing his five starters and had one guard and one forward off the bench are over. Didn't hurt Kraft had at least 3 pro's in his starting five), Brickus has taken over the minutes at PG from Hikim. Last year Hikim averaged 21.9 min per game and 18.4 this year ( that number could keep dropping slightly very slowly).
Kenney averaged 21 min per game last year and 16.5 this year. A lot obviously is because of Gill.
Spencer has seen his time drop (justifiably) from 27 to 20 minutes. If you are a shooter then shoot the ball.
So guys are still getting time but those that earned it are getting more time. Still working within Ash's system.
Ashley stresses defense especially pressing. To play that style you need to have depth. Personally I love it. Drexel announcers said La Salle's defensive intensity the last two season is remarkable. It is obvious that Ashley wants to take away the opponents best player (scorer) and best ballhandler ( make offense run through someone less capable). They announcers mentioned that La Salle is very long. That's great asset to have on defense. Finally Ashley wants to wear down the opponents. Again if you have depth you can do that and not burn your out.
La Salle sells playing time in recruiting. We have too because it's the only way we can compete. Selling a style of play that kids want. Tough to change that now.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Dec 14, 2020 14:57:23 GMT -5
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Post by las71 on Dec 14, 2020 15:30:16 GMT -5
Jellybean I don't like being critical of specific players so I'll simply stick with my original post. To do otherwise would require me to mention specifics which I don't choose to do. Go 'splorers.
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Post by jellybean on Dec 14, 2020 15:51:33 GMT -5
Jellybean I don't like being critical of specific players so I'll simply stick with my original post. To do otherwise would require me to mention specifics which I don't choose to do. Go 'splorers. I think I pointed out physical and positional differences. I don't think I criticized any player other than Spencer needs to shoot the ball if your best skill is shooting. That's not a scathing "attack". Be well. Peace.
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Post by las71 on Dec 14, 2020 17:05:40 GMT -5
I never accused you of attacking anyone, I simply stated that to make my point I would have to make specific criticism and I didn't choose to do so. These kids have chosen to come to our alma mater and for the most part I'm glad they did.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 14, 2020 18:35:08 GMT -5
I am a bit disappointed with this. A big, potential perimeter shooter, just starting to fill out physically. He was just starting his second year. I was looking forward to seeing how he might develop.
No use speculating. It looks like in the present world of college ball if you have/feel a need to make a move it might be more doable than in days gone by. I wish him luck.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Dec 15, 2020 8:36:21 GMT -5
I am a bit disappointed with this. A big, potential perimeter shooter, just starting to fill out physically. He was just starting his second year. I was looking forward to seeing how he might develop. No use speculating. It looks like in the present world of college ball if you have/feel a need to make a move it might be more doable than in days gone by. I wish him luck. me too. i thought he could help us if used correctly. he's a pretty skilled kid. whatever offense it is that la salle runs very rarely finds wide open shots for shooters. put stone on a team like richmond and i think he would thrive. and despite being thin, i never saw him back away from physical play. he just never got the minutes needed to make a difference. good luck to him wherever he goes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 9:55:25 GMT -5
He's gonna go somewhere and be decent. He has a skill set, you could just tell he was stripped of all of his confidence, the offense is not functional and he wasnt being utilized properly at all. Him transferring was no doubt best for him, I'm glad he did because he absolutely could be productive. You don't find 6'10 shooters everywhere. Disappointed Ash wasted that one and it's not that some studs rolled in and took time from him. where I thought Ed comes a dime a dozen, undersized big with a decent motor, you dont find a 6'10 shooter. Not saying Stone was elite and all conference, but I see some more potential there than Ed who was really a 6'6 "big".
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Post by coachd on Dec 15, 2020 10:14:47 GMT -5
38 points in his first 5 games of his career and 41 in the next 24 Pardon the pun but I guess that made him a "Stone cold lock" to depart from the program!
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Post by glorydays on Dec 15, 2020 10:49:31 GMT -5
If he is a CAA kind of guy, the Blue Hens should come calling. Ingelsby would know how to use him...
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Dec 15, 2020 12:21:18 GMT -5
It's on the basketball website as well.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 15, 2020 12:23:28 GMT -5
He's gonna go somewhere and be decent. He has a skill set, you could just tell he was stripped of all of his confidence, the offense is not functional and he wasnt being utilized properly at all. Him transferring was no doubt best for him, I'm glad he did because he absolutely could be productive. You don't find 6'10 shooters everywhere. Disappointed Ash wasted that one and it's not that some studs rolled in and took time from him. where I thought Ed comes a dime a dozen, undersized big with a decent motor, you dont find a 6'10 shooter. Not saying Stone was elite and all conference, but I see some more potential there than Ed who was really a 6'6 "big". He shot 24.2% from three. 68.8% from the line. 36% from two (as a big). In what world is he a "shooter"?
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