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Post by ogbj20 on Nov 27, 2020 8:50:06 GMT -5
Although this was the first game, I thought that we had a chance to get this one from the start. However:
We couldn’t handle their defensive pressure and turned the ball over too many times as if possessing the ball was some sort of hot potato. You don’t dribble directly into the trap. There has also got be 3 outlet passes to attack the press.
Players were not in position to receive direct line and shorter passes to beat the press allowing us to attack them and get easier shots layups open shots. We were too tentative with the ball (basically scared shitless with the ball for the most part. The only way to get a team out pressing is to score the ball and not waste chances by not even getting a good shot or even a decent look.
In the half court offense, too many passes that got deflected or stolen because of the lack of aggressiveness to attack to score. There were too many times were we allowed the swing pass to the corner to telegraphed with the defender knowing it was coming. A simple ball fake and penetration to the basketball now draws both defenders and give s the corner jump shooter a open look on the kick out pass or if the corner doesn’t sag, the week side has to step up giving us a lob to the big or the skip to the opposite comer.
Defensively, we looked pretty good in the half court and on the ball. Not too many direct line drives to the hoop.
Rebounded the ball well.
Started to be aggressive too late in the game but nonetheless showed some fight. But that fight has to start from the time you get in the locker room.
Looking forward to a better performance and not to take St. Peter’s lightly.
We need Akim to start at the point and bring ray or spencer off sixth man, along with Moore, Brickus, and Stone.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 27, 2020 8:56:21 GMT -5
They were 6-26 last year. His worst year in the A-10, which was his only year in the A-10, would be the worst year La Salle has ever had in the A-10. But maybe he does lead and finish? he was 6-20 and 1-9 from three today. Would fit right in. He did have 7 boards and 7 assists to go along with his 18 points, with only 2 turnovers in 42 minutes of action (I'd take that turnover stat alone as an improvement on our team). His shooting wasn't great yesterday but he drew fouls driving which we don't do enough. I was less concerned with him though and more impressed with Funk and newcomer Forrest who played for Lower Merion and transferred from Columbia. Those two looked really good and both shot over 50%. They will probably get rolled by Kansas today though. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 27, 2020 9:19:23 GMT -5
Hard to find a positive in yesterday's performance. In a season that will have many stops and starts Ash will have to decide on whether or not this is a rebuild or a win now season. Tough choice for a coach. If we're going to take our lumps anyway do you play the kids to get them valuable game experience or do you play the upperclassmen who have been in the program. Tough choices ahead for Ash. I don't accept that as a choice for a D1 college coach in today's world of transfers. How did getting Ed valuable game-experience work out for us? You play to win now. We aren't tanking for draft picks. You put the best 5 on the floor and try to win every single game. |
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Post by blueandgold on Nov 27, 2020 9:27:26 GMT -5
I was lucky. My wife made me turn off the game at halftime because I was doing too much cursing in front of grandkids. Horror show. Is the game on TV tomorrow? Grandkids will not be here. It is on an interactive Zoom session. Just make sure you got that mute button working! |
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Post by blueandgold on Nov 27, 2020 9:29:21 GMT -5
What is most lacking on our La Salle Explorers MBB team : a Ryan Daly ( or equivalent ). All of us on this board are all too familiar with his life story to this point. All the kid does is LEAD / FINISH / WIN. Opening day and we are already hot for this City Ave loser again? Hard pass. |
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Post by milkoliverwurst on Nov 27, 2020 9:50:13 GMT -5
Hard to find a positive in yesterday's performance. In a season that will have many stops and starts Ash will have to decide on whether or not this is a rebuild or a win now season. Tough choice for a coach. If we're going to take our lumps anyway do you play the kids to get them valuable game experience or do you play the upperclassmen who have been in the program. Tough choices ahead for Ash. I don't accept that as a choice for a D1 college coach in today's world of transfers. How did getting Ed valuable game-experience work out for us? You play to win now. We aren't tanking for draft picks. You put the best 5 on the floor and try to win every single game. I agree. Ashley Howard has no proven track record as a HC. He cannot afford to play for next year. I believe he signed a 5 year contract. If he wants to see all 5 years, or an extension, he needs to win now. There aren't many G holdovers left. These are Ashley's guys. Time to show they can win. |
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 27, 2020 10:18:29 GMT -5
One of my concerns is this program has no one that can break his man down and get his own shot accept Ayinde and he comes with turnover warts.
If you don’t have players like that than you better have a great offensive system that gets spot up shooters open shots. We don’t have that either.
It was one game and we can get better. We need Ayinde to be much better at protecting that ball and playing under control. I think Brickus is really going to be good. He makes it look effortless when he plays. If those two develop we could have something good to work with. I just wish Ayinde was further along in his development.
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Post by vital on Nov 27, 2020 10:22:49 GMT -5
Ash has to do a better job with getting this team easier basket he wants to call a play every time the team is in a push mode...Also major lineup change...Brickus Beatty Kenny Clark JK..its a quicker group and you have 2 guys who are not afraid to get to the basket and take shots plus ball handlers...Jack being out of basketball for 2 season he showed how nervous he was hopefully that's under the bridge...Ray slows down the team he fits better with the 2nd group for rebounding with Clif Scott Hikim...Defens they look good most of the game but Ash can't make subs of 4 players so early the need to play a lil longer together to get a rhythm and not panic especially with less practice and gym time due to this pandemic...They have to win vs St Peters by 8 or more..or we could be looking at a baddd start to this short season
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 27, 2020 12:47:44 GMT -5
One of my concerns is this program has no one that can break his man down and get his own shot accept Ayinde and he comes with turnover warts. If you don’t have players like that than you better have a great offensive system that gets spot up shooters open shots. We don’t have that either. It was one game and we can get better. We need Ayinde to be much better at protecting that ball and playing under control. I think Brickus is really going to be good. He makes it look effortless when he plays. If those two develop we could have something good to work with. I just wish Ayinde was further along in his development. All you say here rings very true for me. I could be wrong but I have not given up on Kenny in this regard (being able to break his man down). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2020 13:15:13 GMT -5
Why did we get blown out by a bad team? I’m watching Sam Francisco up 5 with 1:23 left against UVA. They have 8 turnovers. Only scored 21 in the first half. Started 1-9 from the field. Moral of the story: we won’t shoot the lights out everyday. But it’s pretty hard to win if you don’t get shots. Still sick over yesterday’s performance. So bad.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 27, 2020 13:48:41 GMT -5
What is most lacking on our La Salle Explorers MBB team : a Ryan Daly ( or equivalent ). All of us on this board are all too familiar with his life story to this point. All the kid does is LEAD / FINISH / WIN. They were 6-26 last year. His worst year in the A-10, which was his only year in the A-10, would be the worst year La Salle has ever had in the A-10. But maybe he does lead and finish? Ryan Daly's " only / worst year in the A-10 " ( 2019 - 20 COVID-19 shortened season ) : 619 total points in 30 games ( 20.6 ppg average ); 128 assists ; 205 rebounds ( 6.6 rebs pg average ) ; 11 blocks ; 36 steals, on a horrible, undermanned team, while being double and triple -teamed by every opponent they played. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 27, 2020 14:23:28 GMT -5
10 minutes in and the Hawks are up 25-20 on Kansas and only have 1 turnover. I can't remember a 10 minute stretch for us with only 1 turnover against any level of competition let alone against a top 10 team like Kansas.
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Post by explorerentourage on Nov 27, 2020 14:40:11 GMT -5
We're not seriously gonna do the Billy Lange thing again this year are we?
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Post by explorerentourage on Nov 27, 2020 14:41:09 GMT -5
10 minutes in and the Hawks are up 25-20 on Kansas and only have 1 turnover. I can't remember a 10 minute stretch for us with only 1 turnover against any level of competition let alone against a top 10 team like Kansas. How about winning at halftime against Villanova at the Palestra |
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Post by big5explorer on Nov 27, 2020 14:47:14 GMT -5
10 minutes in and the Hawks are up 25-20 on Kansas and only have 1 turnover. I can't remember a 10 minute stretch for us with only 1 turnover against any level of competition let alone against a top 10 team like Kansas. We might win more often if the motto became "Explorers never lost a possession." Yesterday was one of the sloppiest basketball games I have seen in years. On both sides. Would love to say both teams played great defense but I'm not sure that was the case. The good news is that we were in striking distance late in the game despite giving up 30 points on turnovers alone. If we take better care of the ball we can win. |
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Post by MisterD on Nov 27, 2020 14:50:05 GMT -5
Ryan Daly's " only / worst year in the A-10 " ( 2019 - 20 COVID-19 shortened season ) : 619 total points in 30 games ( 20.6 ppg average ); 128 assists ; 205 rebounds ( 6.6 rebs pg average ) ; 11 blocks ; 36 steals, on a horrible, undermanned team, while being double and triple -teamed by every opponent they played You called him a WINNER. If you’d called him a scorer, I wouldn’t have responded. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 27, 2020 15:26:02 GMT -5
10 minutes in and the Hawks are up 25-20 on Kansas and only have 1 turnover. I can't remember a 10 minute stretch for us with only 1 turnover against any level of competition let alone against a top 10 team like Kansas. How about winning at halftime against Villanova at the Palestra was there a 10 minute stretch in that game where we only committed 1 turnover? We finished the game with 15. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 27, 2020 15:54:51 GMT -5
Just a couple thoughts...
Definitely understand some of your frustration. It is justified between the turnovers and free throws, I was pretty disappointed how many fundamental mistakes they made. St Johns press was a HUGE problem for La Salle. They seem unprepared for it. It wasn't something St Johns did often last year either. That falls on Ash IMO. I'm also not too concerned about the roster rotation just yet. We have 5 new pieces this year and lost 40% of our production from the prior season. That isn't going to be something we solved overnight. However, I agree they should of been more prepared.
We are absolutely not starting this Billy Lange thing again. SJU has more offensive weapons this year but their defense so far doesn't look improved at all and I have some concerns with their depth. They aren't getting much production from their bench. However, like us, it is SO early to be making dramatic generalizations for any team in the country.
If I were Ash, I would not have Beatty running the point, I rather split time between Hikim and Brickus. Both of them had their moments yesterday. In addition, I would like us to try and attack the basket more and look to Moore and Jared inside the paint. I feel as though they are too focused on taking long jumpers and threes. IMO their outside shooting will be their strength as this team develops some chemistry and players adapt into their roles but they need to focus on spreading the floor. One strong suit continues to be their 3 point defense.
Entering the season I had 4 main concerns, rebounding, shot blocking, turnovers and free throws. I was happy to see the emphasis on team rebounding and Moore looks like a legit rim protector. If they can improve their assist to turnover ratio this will ultimately help the offense. Hoping for a better performance today so we will see.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 27, 2020 20:17:09 GMT -5
Ryan Daly's " only / worst year in the A-10 " ( 2019 - 20 COVID-19 shortened season ) : 619 total points in 30 games ( 20.6 ppg average ); 128 assists ; 205 rebounds ( 6.6 rebs pg average ) ; 11 blocks ; 36 steals, on a horrible, undermanned team, while being double and triple -teamed by every opponent they played You called him a WINNER. If you’d called him a scorer, I wouldn’t have responded.  |
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Post by jellybean on Nov 28, 2020 11:07:37 GMT -5
I was lucky. My wife made me turn off the game at halftime because I was doing too much cursing in front of grandkids. Horror show. Is the game on TV tomorrow? Grandkids will not be here. St. Edmund's had Confession/Reconciliation at 915-1000am this morning. Otherwise call rectory. They don't make it easy. Side note that's tough to come up with all your things to confess basically first thing on a Saturday morning. I'm a 400-445pm kind of guy. |
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Post by glorydays on Nov 28, 2020 11:18:21 GMT -5
Anticipated Confession Dialog:
glorydays: Bless me, Father, for I am a La Salle basketball fan.
confessor: That's all I need to hear. For your penance watch as many games as possible. Bless you, my son.
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Post by hykos1045 on Nov 28, 2020 11:57:26 GMT -5
How about winning at halftime against Villanova at the Palestra was there a 10 minute stretch in that game where we only committed 1 turnover? We finished the game with 15. Temple game in November of 2017 in which we finished with 4 turnovers and Temple had two points off of turnovers. That felt like forever ago but it sticks out in my mind as one of the best La Salle games I've ever seen. |
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