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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 30, 2020 8:43:47 GMT -5
This is somewhat OT but has some basketball ramifications so I put it here. Let me start out by saying I don't think this is going to happen, at least not on a high level. www.crossingbroad.com/2020/10/big-five-implications-st-josephs-university-open-to-merger.htmlI'd bet that St. Joe's is actually in a worse position than La Salle. Their pockets are deeper, but they've already lowered admittance rates a ton in the past and their real estate ambitions can't be cheap. That said, La Salle should be open to anything. |
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Post by sidclassof69 on Oct 30, 2020 9:12:04 GMT -5
Actually, never realized that something like this could really happen. I’m sure it has, but I can’t think of any examples.
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Post by Happy Fortune on Oct 30, 2020 9:13:22 GMT -5
Actually, never realized that something like this could really happen. I’m sure it has, but I can’t think of any examples. Philly U + Jefferson |
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Post by 23won on Oct 30, 2020 9:36:52 GMT -5
What's the reason for their enrollment issues?
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Post by las71 on Oct 30, 2020 9:58:49 GMT -5
There are a number of small catholic colleges in the area that may be looking to merge with schools like St. Joe's or La Salle. I don't think it's out of the question as the costs increase and the number of available students shrink.
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Post by calsufan on Oct 30, 2020 10:30:47 GMT -5
Lol, could you imagine if they merged with 'Nova? The collective meltdown on the Hawk Board would be epic.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 30, 2020 10:58:53 GMT -5
Part City, Part Suburbs, Part Entirely Separate University Altogether.
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Post by explorer88 on Oct 30, 2020 11:17:32 GMT -5
University of Detroit and Mercy College became Detroit-Mercy just as we entered the MCC in the 90'S.
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Post by glorydays on Oct 30, 2020 13:08:42 GMT -5
St. Joe's would be the big fish in a merger with...Holy Family or Neumann or Gwynedd Mercy or Immaculata or Chestnut Hill or Rosemont. I can't imagine it not being another Catholic institution.
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Post by hykos1045 on Oct 30, 2020 13:24:07 GMT -5
Actually, never realized that something like this could really happen. I’m sure it has, but I can’t think of any examples. Widener University + Brandywine Junior College (partnership) George Washington University + Corcoran College (merger) Rowan University + UMDNJ (restructuring) |
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Post by glorydays on Oct 30, 2020 13:42:25 GMT -5
Hykos, on the Brandywine Junior College - Widener merger. I believe that the junior college ceased to exist a couple of years after the merger and the property became home to the Widener Law School. Unsure of the timing of all of that but the late Bobby Fields matriculated from Brandywine JC to La Salle in the Fall of '69.
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Post by 23won on Oct 30, 2020 13:44:38 GMT -5
Lol, could you imagine if they merged with 'Nova? The collective meltdown on the Hawk Board would be epic. That probably wouldn't happen since only a small number of Hawks would qualify for Nova Admission lol |
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Post by 23won on Oct 30, 2020 13:45:53 GMT -5
Part City, Part Suburbs, Part Entirely Separate University Altogether. The Separate Not Equal clause of the Nova Constitution |
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Post by gymrat67 on Oct 30, 2020 14:45:46 GMT -5
This is somewhat OT but has some basketball ramifications so I put it here. Let me start out by saying I don't think this is going to happen, at least not on a high level. www.crossingbroad.com/2020/10/big-five-implications-st-josephs-university-open-to-merger.htmlI'd bet that St. Joe's is actually in a worse position than La Salle. Their pockets are deeper, but they've already lowered admittance rates a ton in the past and their real estate ambitions can't be cheap. That said, La Salle should be open to anything. As far as I am aware, to date St Joe's has not yet tried a meaningful, significant tuition reset ( reduction ) to bolster enrollment. |
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Post by sidclassof69 on Oct 30, 2020 14:58:38 GMT -5
U are right about Philly University + Jefferson.I guess I was thinking more across a sports line.
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Post by SICguy84 on Oct 30, 2020 14:59:57 GMT -5
I recall a multi page thread a few years ago on their shitboard opining that La Salle and Holy Family would merger.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 30, 2020 20:31:10 GMT -5
if la salle were to ever consider merging, i would love to see them do it with chestnut hill college. geographically and mission-wise, it makes the most sense. only 6 miles away and a straight run over stenton ave. drive time is 20-25 minutes, and chestnut hill has a very nice campus. would add another 75 acres to the campus.
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Post by big5explorer on Oct 31, 2020 10:29:29 GMT -5
if la salle were to ever consider merging, i would love to see them do it with chestnut hill college. geographically and mission-wise, it makes the most sense. only 6 miles away and a straight run over stenton ave. drive time is 20-25 minutes, and chestnut hill has a very nice campus. would add another 75 acres to the campus. Enrollment would skyrocket, and probably become much more selective, if the La Salle ever merged and moved their main campus to Chestnut Hill. |
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Post by calsufan on Oct 31, 2020 10:57:34 GMT -5
if la salle were to ever consider merging, i would love to see them do it with chestnut hill college. geographically and mission-wise, it makes the most sense. only 6 miles away and a straight run over stenton ave. drive time is 20-25 minutes, and chestnut hill has a very nice campus. would add another 75 acres to the campus. Enrollment would skyrocket, and probably become much more selective, if the La Salle ever merged and moved their main campus to Chestnut Hill. If Chestnut Hill doesn't have seats behind their baskets then the merger is OFF!!! |
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Post by explorerman on Oct 31, 2020 12:59:22 GMT -5
There are a lot of D2 and D3 Universities just releasing that they need to do something to survive.. The last 6-8 years has been an observation period for then but everything has been moved up...
It will be an intriguing time... It will only take one ambitious Board at one of these D2/D3 schools that want a quick way up to D1 membership... and not of the introductory level either
The next decade is going to be a historic amount of mergers..
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 1, 2020 11:50:20 GMT -5
if la salle were to ever consider merging, i would love to see them do it with chestnut hill college. geographically and mission-wise, it makes the most sense. only 6 miles away and a straight run over stenton ave. drive time is 20-25 minutes, and chestnut hill has a very nice campus. would add another 75 acres to the campus. Enrollment would skyrocket, and probably become much more selective, if the La Salle ever merged and moved their main campus to Chestnut Hill. I wouldn’t be opposed to a merger in theory, but La Salle would stop being La Salle to me if they moved their main campus from 20th and Olney. |
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 1, 2020 12:37:08 GMT -5
Enrollment would skyrocket, and probably become much more selective, if the La Salle ever merged and moved their main campus to Chestnut Hill. I wouldn’t be opposed to a merger in theory, but La Salle would stop being La Salle to me if they moved their main campus from 20th and Olney. La Salle needs to get out of the city IMO. However, I would assume the physical campus carries a lot in the merger and many different levels need to be considered for a successful post merger. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 1, 2020 16:27:51 GMT -5
I believe one of the complaints about 20th and Olney and low attendance over the years is that it is often difficult to get to the campus for games due to traffic, public transit, etc. Perhaps a basketball arena on Chestnut Hill's campus could be a way to increase attendance as it is somewhat easier to get there via multiple routes. They could even run a shuttle the 1.5 miles from Chestnut Hill West train station on game days potentially. 5 miles from the Blue Route and Turnpike as well.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 1, 2020 18:33:57 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be opposed to a merger in theory, but La Salle would stop being La Salle to me if they moved their main campus from 20th and Olney. La Salle needs to get out of the city IMO. I’m curious as to why. Let’s put aside people being able to attend a basketball game as a reason for the moment. Is it just “the neighborhood”? Are we thinking enrollment is hurt by being in the city? The school has put a ton of money into new buildings and development on the campus. I’m just curious because it’s not something I’d ever thought of before really. For me personally I know I’d have a real hard time having any kind of affinity or connection to a school called “La Salle” that was in a totally different area, just because it had the same name as a school I went to at one point. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 1, 2020 19:00:36 GMT -5
When you look at a lot of La Salle’s competition, safety and neighborhood probably plays a large part when people do not choose La Salle.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Nov 1, 2020 23:43:53 GMT -5
La Salle needs to get out of the city IMO. I’m curious as to why. Let’s put aside people being able to attend a basketball game as a reason for the moment. Is it just “the neighborhood”? Are we thinking enrollment is hurt by being in the city? The school has put a ton of money into new buildings and development on the campus. I’m just curious because it’s not something I’d ever thought of before really. For me personally I know I’d have a real hard time having any kind of affinity or connection to a school called “La Salle” that was in a totally different area, just because it had the same name as a school I went to at one point. For one, outside of buying lots of properties, the campus is landlocked. The woods in and around South Campus are Fairmount Park commission property. Taking over that land in any capacity would be a battle with the city. If money wasn't an issue, one of the spots I'd like to see them explore for a new arena would be at the corner of 20th and Belfield. It's all woods (Park Commission land), but creating a complex of sorts with the stadium/track/baseball field (rip?) right above it would be pretty cool. |
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Post by explorerman on Nov 2, 2020 4:21:11 GMT -5
La Salle needs to get out of the city IMO. I’m curious as to why. Let’s put aside people being able to attend a basketball game as a reason for the moment. Is it just “the neighborhood”? Are we thinking enrollment is hurt by being in the city? The school has put a ton of money into new buildings and development on the campus. I’m just curious because it’s not something I’d ever thought of before really. For me personally I know I’d have a real hard time having any kind of affinity or connection to a school called “La Salle” that was in a totally different area, just because it had the same name as a school I went to at one point. This is the part that I struggle with also... But it is a sunk cost... All the investment has already been done and won’t change the surrounding area. Unless someone sees Germantown and Olney changing in the next 20 years then I am not too sure what else is there. You aren’t going to put up a brick wall around the campus like at Girard College. One of the biggest complaints from prospective students about the school is indeed is the perceived dangerous neighborhood. Well now and that we have the “ugliest campus” thanks to the dumb baseball alumni... Will be a very interesting time and I am confident that we have the right people in place to make the best decision possible to put us in a position to be successful. |
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Post by las71 on Nov 2, 2020 7:47:33 GMT -5
As the number of prospective students continues to shrink there will be schools forced to shut their doors. Leaving 20th and Olney can't possibly be a viable option if we can't even afford to build a new arena. A merger seems to be the only path to growth for us. Philly U made what appears to be a brilliant merger with Jefferson. They found a partner in healthcare where there are no shortage of job prospects. Not saying this type of merger is still available but if we wait too long our best opportunity may be gone.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 2, 2020 8:24:35 GMT -5
I have no idea what percentage of kids are housed in north dorms, but in my perfect world, La Salle owns all the land (sans Central HS) south of Olney Ave, East of Wister (add the Business school), north of Belfield and west of Ogontz. Everything else is sold.
You wall the campus in security-wise and then build up the housing and such on the new space. Get the city to close 20th street.
Like mentioned above, the there is some city owned land in there but maybe you can trade them the parts you'd want to get rid of.
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But since we live in reality...
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Post by coqui900 on Nov 2, 2020 10:35:14 GMT -5
If we merge, one school that I can see us looking to is Gwynedd-Mercy in Montco. A lof of GMU's student body goes there because of their nursing and nursing-related programs. They also have a good amount of education/teaching type degrees, too. Those are really good compliments to what we offer already. It's also a really similar mission and student body. It's probably the best fit, IMO.
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