jetstorm
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Post by jetstorm on May 28, 2020 21:01:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 21:54:10 GMT -5
Didn’t read the article, but the letter sent out today with regards to the plan for return seems very viable, responsible, and intelligent. Under the age of 34 there is a negligible death rate. Under 55 is almost the same. Trying to make La Salle entirely online would be absolutely destructive even if it was just for another semester. The aggressive, straightforward, and honest letter gives hope to students, parents, and alumni alike. Getting ahead of everyone is key as some students have probably delayed their deposits to make sure they will be on a campus. I commend the President and her staff on deciding this. Now we just need to make sure the dopes in Harrisburg and city hall dont ruin it. Sure there will be some exposure. Maybe even some cases. But it’s a small enough school and cases have plummeted outside of the nursing homes (thanks to Wolf and Levine’s asinine nursing home strategy) that getting back to the norm is good. Credit to the team for developing this strategy, looking forward to homecoming and basketball games in the fall.
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Post by glorydays on May 28, 2020 21:57:00 GMT -5
Scary? Yes. Not the kind of article that you want featuring your institution.
“Of course, many colleges will find a way through the present crisis, and universities like La Salle could rely on administrative savvy and deep roots of alumni and community support. Modeling tools aren’t perfect, and a worrisome trajectory doesn’t mean a college will stay on that trajectory.“
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 22:11:27 GMT -5
As far as an article being “scary and sobering” if La Salle is advertised as a savvy administration and strong community roots, that’s pretty good.
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Post by diehardexplorer on May 28, 2020 22:34:20 GMT -5
maybe it would be a good idea to put this in the other discussions forum since it's not basketball-related.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 0:01:06 GMT -5
maybe it would be a good idea to put this in the other discussions forum since it's not basketball-related. Please keep your sound and reasonable logic off of this board. There’s no place for that.
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Post by glorydays on May 29, 2020 6:02:31 GMT -5
Didn’t read the article, but the letter sent out today with regards to the plan for return seems very viable, responsible, and intelligent. Under the age of 34 there is a negligible death rate. Under 55 is almost the same. Trying to make La Salle entirely online would be absolutely destructive even if it was just for another semester. The aggressive, straightforward, and honest letter gives hope to students, parents, and alumni alike. Getting ahead of everyone is key as some students have probably delayed their deposits to make sure they will be on a campus. I commend the President and her staff on deciding this. Now we just need to make sure the dopes in Harrisburg and city hall dont ruin it. Sure there will be some exposure. Maybe even some cases. But it’s a small enough school and cases have plummeted outside of the nursing homes (thanks to Wolf and Levine’s asinine nursing home strategy) that getting back to the norm is good. Credit to the team for developing this strategy, looking forward to homecoming and basketball games in the fall. NPOA
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Post by SICguy84 on May 29, 2020 6:27:57 GMT -5
(Again) Reports of La Salle's death are greatly exaggerated.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 29, 2020 6:44:48 GMT -5
As far as an article being “scary and sobering” if La Salle is advertised as a savvy administration and strong community roots, that’s pretty good. Definitely read it..it is a good read. Saying "COULD rely" is not an endorsement. The article is really using La Salle as an example of a "less competitive private college" that is in bad financial shape. It also dives into some the expense and revenue numbers we were discussing in another thread (although they under-reported revenue in this article based on the public tax filing for 2018) "Less competitive colleges can’t just admit whom they wish and charge what they want. Instead, they use complex statistical models to manage their enrollment and pricing policies. La Salle, for example, typically admits five students for every one who actually enrolls, relying on an analysis of historical enrollment patterns to end up with the right number of students paying a financially viable mix of tuition prices. It needs a certain number of students paying full price, or close to it, every year.
This has become common industry practice. The financial solvency of many private colleges now rests on a latticework of probability. But many of the strategies colleges use to entice admitted students, like campus visits, are now gone. If the probabilistic models collapse, revenue losses at some colleges could be much more severe than Edmit’s assumptions, and the number of private colleges in acute financial distress could be even larger."
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 29, 2020 7:03:33 GMT -5
Trying to make La Salle entirely online would be absolutely destructive even if it was just for another semester. The aggressive, straightforward, and honest letter gives hope to students, parents, and alumni alike. Getting ahead of everyone is key as some students have probably delayed their deposits to make sure they will be on a campus. Duquesne (where my daughter ended up deciding to attend) sent out a similar note yesterday with a lot of specifics laid out. Including moving to a hybrid approach where, in order to "de-densify" the classroom (this was the word they kept using), half the students would be online one day and in the classroom another day. I believe this is the approach La Salle and other schools in PA are considering too, with professors being able to adapt to this mode of teaching and shift to all online if needed quickly. The parents' page on their Facebook exploded with people wondering why pay private school tuition to have their kids only in the classroom for half the time. A legit question. Others with upperclassmen wrote they had their kids ask their advisors if they could take a semester or a year off and still retain their scholarships. What exactly does a "de-densified" campus look like where they may limit number of kids in dorms, limit in-person activities and gatherings, etc. For first year students, where a lot of the courses are general education, why not take those online at a cheaper institution than a private university and transfer them in? Some of the highlights from Duquesne (which I'm guessing a lot of schools will do) are below. Now...would you pay full price for this "college experience"? That's the question schools need to wrestle with now. In order to de-densify areas such as common restrooms, shower facilities in the residence halls, dining facilities etc., we may ask some students to voluntarily defer moving into the residence halls for some or all of the fall semester so that the total number of students in campus housing is reduced for safety purposes.
Eateries will feature a wide variety of new grab-and-go options to reduce the foot traffic in dining facilities; seating in those facilities will be spread out.
Students attending classes in-person will be spaced apart. Their peers who attend the same class attending virtually will be able to see and interact with the entire class.
Some classes may be structured to permit half of the class to attend in-person on one day, and the rest of the students to attend in-person on another day, alternating in-person and online instruction to optimize safety while still building the sense of community beneficial to our students and distinctive at Duquesne.
Classes may begin earlier and/or later in the day, even using Saturdays, in order to provide sufficient classroom times to reduce the number of students in classrooms at any given time.
Certain classes, based upon their suitability for remote learning, as well as individual health concerns of specific faculty members, may need to take place entirely online.
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Post by jellybean on May 29, 2020 7:57:51 GMT -5
maybe it would be a good idea to put this in the other discussions forum since it's not basketball-related. +1 and it should have company.
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Post by las71 on May 29, 2020 8:13:07 GMT -5
The administration at La Salle is under extraordinary pressure to open for the fall semester. Conversely if they open and there are students contracting the virus while on campus, I hate to think of the consequences to our Alma Mater. Not opening will surely result in the loss of students who's families may take the position that their children should go to community college until the campus opens. This is a perfectly reasonable response if the campus isn't open for the fall semester and I'm sure the Board and administrators realize that. On the other hand, if we open and there's an outbreak on campus how do we survive that? It's easy to criticize Mayors, Governors and administrators for the decisions they make but just looking at the possible impact on La Salle should they make the wrong choice here makes me shudder. I would hate to be burdened with the responsibility of making this call.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 29, 2020 8:31:02 GMT -5
The administration at La Salle is under extraordinary pressure to open for the fall semester. Conversely if they open and there are students contracting the virus while on campus, I hate to think of the consequences to our Alma Mater. Not opening will surely result in the loss of students who's families may take the position that their children should go to community college until the campus opens. This is a perfectly reasonable response if the campus isn't open for the fall semester and I'm sure the Board and administrators realize that. On the other hand, if we open and there's an outbreak on campus how do we survive that? It's easy to criticize Mayors, Governors and administrators for the decisions they make but just looking at the possible impact on La Salle should they make the wrong choice here makes me shudder. I would hate to be burdened with the responsibility of making this call. Agreed, and the meetings I've been in, the bigger concern is for the professors who may be older and have more underlying health conditions. A wave of this going through students who are largely asymptomatic would likely have minimal effect on their health. For professors, however, it's a different matter and has to be considered. For 2 weeks before this got serious, my son said 2 of his older professors at Villanova wore masks on campus. I think that is more what the a schools are wrestling with in terms of how to deliver the education experience while accounting for the potential increased risk to faculty and staff. And of course all this is unknown as to what the actual prevalence will be. Hospitalizations in the 11-hospital St. Luke's system in the Allentown area went from a peak of 219 patients in April to 29 as of this morning.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on May 29, 2020 10:40:09 GMT -5
Moved because nobody that runs this board knows what they're doing.
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Post by theneumann64 on May 29, 2020 10:53:27 GMT -5
Moved because nobody that runs this board knows what they're doing. I speak only for myself when I say that I absolutely do not.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on May 29, 2020 13:01:52 GMT -5
Just saw this posted about Stanford expecting layoffs. This is a school with a $27 Billion endowment...about 350x the size of La Salle's endowment, and they are being seriously affeted economically by this. And this is a school likely seeing no enrollment decline because it is in the top 5 of most competitive universities to which to gain admission. www.cnbc.com/2020/05/29/stanford-president-expects-layoffs-even-with-27-billion-endowment.html Specifically, Tessier-Lavigne said that the school is forecasting $267 million in financial losses from March 1st to August 31st and potentially greater losses in the following fiscal year
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 11, 2020 16:13:08 GMT -5
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