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Post by MisterD on Feb 28, 2020 17:02:38 GMT -5
Yes, but we are limited with ballhandlers. If he is on the team, Phiri doesn't have to play the point. And brookins would be in line for more time over the last however many games. It doesn’t matter, turning over those scholarships was best for all parties. |
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Post by explorerguy on Feb 28, 2020 17:13:19 GMT -5
Osun was going to play at La Salle even after the coaching change.
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 28, 2020 17:15:37 GMT -5
Jesus ... this is the first bad transfer for Howard. Losing Osun sucked but he was standard coaching turnover and the guys who left after last year wouldn't have changed things this year. This goes for me too. Other guys left because they didn’t play much and we’re about to play even less. Carter was a possible exception, but he had already transferred once, and the situation was a bit different. I didn’t want to lose him, but can’t put that on coach. This is the first guy with a big role, who was going to continue having a big role, that we lost. |
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Post by 23won on Feb 28, 2020 17:16:47 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with the 4 year Hikim for 1 year Carter swap.
My take on that is kinda like a movie
Lt. Aldo Raine : Y'know... Utivich 'n myself heard that deal you made with the brass. ... I'd make that deal. How 'bout you Utivich, you make that deal?
Pfc. Smithson Utivich : I'd make that deal.
Lt. Aldo Raine : I don't blame ya! Damn good deal!
Time to take a breath, down a lot of alcohol and continue on the rickety La Salle rollercoaster ride where admission is limited to the the diehards who post here.
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Post by fvp47 on Feb 28, 2020 17:34:39 GMT -5
Osun was going to play at La Salle even after the coaching change. How do you know this and then why did he not? |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 28, 2020 17:44:42 GMT -5
nice try. i know two people that were intimately involved in the process and d-3 was never a consideration. never. there is also a poster here, although he rarely posts now, who confirmed that as well. he was also intimately involved. . oooh, good one on the refs. you got me there. Nice try, but maybe your two people weren't at the meeting where the two faculty members I know heard this stated by the consultants. If you re-read the old thread, you'll see even one of the admins on here confirmed it was said as an option as part of "exploring all options for the future of athletics", which is how it was positioned. Yes...your complaint about the refs during a 26-point loss to Davidson was classic - clearly the reason La Salle lost that game. |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 28, 2020 17:46:50 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but Traci Carter would have absolutely helped this team. Transferred down and is averaging less than 10 points per game on 33.4% shooting. And leads their team in 4.5 assists a game. Last time I checked...we could use some of those. Our freshmen guards combined for 1 assist in 48 minutes of play against Davidson |
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Post by explorerguy on Feb 28, 2020 17:49:45 GMT -5
He was on board like all the other recruits.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 28, 2020 17:57:53 GMT -5
Osun was going to play at La Salle even after the coaching change. This feels like a riddle where the answer is him playing "at La Salle" because he's in conference. |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 28, 2020 18:11:40 GMT -5
One thing I guess I'm curious about is whether Croswell will be the last of his kind under Howard. If you assume the plan was to follow the Villanova model, those teams were built on the perimeter where a strict interior player was just a complimentary piece. The first championship team (throws up in mouth) had Ochefu but he was 5th in shots and much lower if you do it per minute. The second championship team (this time the throw up gets on my shirt) didn't have anyone close; every rotation player over 12 minutes took atleast two 3s per game. Should be interesting to see if we change structurally now that our best player isn't down in the post.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 28, 2020 18:17:29 GMT -5
Transferred down and is averaging less than 10 points per game on 33.4% shooting. And leads their team in 4.5 assists a game. Last time I checked...we could use some of those. Our freshmen guards combined for 1 assist in 48 minutes of play against Davidson You can't compare 1 game to a season average. That's apples and oranges. So I looked at Traci's last year here. He averaged 6.4 ppg, 3.3 assists and 1.9 t.o.'s. Hikim's numbers so far are 5.7 ppg, 3.4 assists and 2.8 t.o.'s as a freshman. |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 28, 2020 18:26:30 GMT -5
Look at what Darryl Partin did in the America East if you want an idea of what a transfer down can or should mean.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Feb 28, 2020 18:50:52 GMT -5
I was hoping this was a joke. It is like a sucker punch to the gut. He was my vote for this years MVP, without much competition. This situation looks like it might be nasty and I find it worrisome.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 28, 2020 18:52:54 GMT -5
I was hoping this was a joke. It is like a sucker punch to the gut. He was my vote for this years MVP, without much competition. This situation looks like it might be nasty and I find it worrisome. He was MVP of the tournament we won, and I can think of several games this year where he put the team on his back and brought us a victory at the end. We shouldn't lose those types of players. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 28, 2020 19:03:06 GMT -5
One thing I guess I'm curious about is whether Croswell will be the last of his kind under Howard. If you assume the plan was to follow the Villanova model, those teams were built on the perimeter where a strict interior player was just a complimentary piece. The first championship team (throws up in mouth) had Ochefu but he was 5th in shots and much lower if you do it per minute. The second championship team (this time the throw up gets on my shirt) didn't have anyone close; every rotation player over 12 minutes took atleast two 3s per game. Should be interesting to see if we change structurally now that our best player isn't down in the post. This |
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 28, 2020 19:55:17 GMT -5
This freaking BLOWS. Wish Ed well, but this is kick in nuts. Would love to know what really happened, but I know we'll likely never get the whole story. Wonder if Del will check in and shed some light. Nothing from Ed's mom on twitter for 2 weeks.
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 28, 2020 20:54:14 GMT -5
This thread is already longer than many of our game threads this year.
Ed was fun to watch at times. Good luck to him.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 28, 2020 21:09:15 GMT -5
This thread is already longer than many of our game threads this year. Ed was fun to watch at times. Good luck to him. It's funny. I had the same exact thought about the length of the thread. |
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 28, 2020 21:10:21 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but Traci Carter would have absolutely helped this team. Transferred down and is averaging less than 10 points per game on 33.4% shooting.  |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 28, 2020 21:22:10 GMT -5
Look at what Darryl Partin did in the America East if you want an idea of what a transfer down can or should mean. Or a guy who played for Syracuse recently before transferring down |
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Post by MisterD on Feb 28, 2020 21:52:28 GMT -5
Exactly. Thank you for helping me make this point to you.
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Post by glorydays on Feb 29, 2020 6:43:56 GMT -5
Did Ash do a Michael Corleone?
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Post by stlexplorer on Feb 29, 2020 7:25:44 GMT -5
From reading everyone’s posts, I guess mark this as the day people turned on Ash. I don’t know what happened I just know this sucks
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Post by MisterD on Feb 29, 2020 8:37:47 GMT -5
Probably equally harsh posts from November 2018. It’s what the board does.
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Post by big5explorer on Feb 29, 2020 9:04:26 GMT -5
Probably equally harsh posts from November 2018. It’s what the board does. These posts are harsh?? Our best player, who is still young, quit, mid-season. And we've stayed fans despite 25 years of losing basketball. Yeah...this board....gosh... |
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Post by festushagan on Feb 29, 2020 9:17:47 GMT -5
odd timing to quit team, sorry for all concerned!
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 29, 2020 9:40:31 GMT -5
The timing is all you need to know why this is bad all the way around for all parties.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 29, 2020 10:05:45 GMT -5
Slice it however you want, say Ed "wasn't his recruit", but Ash just lost the guy who was on-pace to score 1000 points and possibly pull down 1000 rebounds in his career...putting him 4th all-time in rebounds for La Salle behind Gola, Simmons, and Brooks. Ed was going to be an all-A10 player possibly next year and definitely his senior year, and his +/- was the best on the team.
He was playing well against some of the other A10 big men and was only going to get more dominant. You find a way to keep that guy as a foundation in the middle.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Feb 29, 2020 10:07:10 GMT -5
The timing is all you need to know why this is bad all the way around for all parties. You don’t know anything about why he quit. |
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 29, 2020 10:10:11 GMT -5
The timing is all you need to know why this is bad all the way around for all parties. You don’t know anything about why he quit. I don’t need to. I am also not necessarily blaming anyone. The timing is unusual. If you don’t see it you are blind. |
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