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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on Mar 22, 2020 16:25:20 GMT -5
Just doing my part for 13.
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Post by festushagan on Mar 22, 2020 16:27:35 GMT -5
Will be rooting for Villanova when they play Providence, the only other time I do this is when Nova plays butler!
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Post by MisterD on Mar 22, 2020 16:33:12 GMT -5
Can we go back to whoever told me he couldn’t transfer up?
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Post by festushagan on Mar 22, 2020 16:35:30 GMT -5
Good for Ed? Curious to know if Providence was involved with the young man during the season! Hope all are well in these difficult times...
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 22, 2020 17:17:10 GMT -5
Will be rooting for Villanova when they play Providence, so weird
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Post by calsufan on Mar 22, 2020 17:29:21 GMT -5
Old Dominion is in Conference USA Thanks explorerentourage. I forgot they left the CAA around the same time that VCU bolted for the A10.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 22, 2020 17:32:24 GMT -5
Just doing my part for 13. And the naysayers said it couldn't be done! Thanks for doing your part.
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Post by Happy Fortune on Mar 22, 2020 17:39:29 GMT -5
Ed Cooley is happy
#TheRoadTo14Pages
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Post by crayzeeguy on Mar 22, 2020 17:46:54 GMT -5
Ed clearly was extremely selfish in not letting us argue between ODU and Providence for longer than a page. Would have loved to have gotten to page 15 before he made the call. Clearly not a team player.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 22, 2020 17:57:26 GMT -5
My man.
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Post by hideaway on Mar 22, 2020 20:31:46 GMT -5
Ed played a good 2 years for La Salle. He improved from what was expected to be a 9th or 10th man on the team to a decent mid major player. I don't think he will ever start at Providence and I am not sure he would have started again at La Salle starting next year. Moore is better when you consider offense and defense (Ed was not a good defender....ever watch I'm on the pick and roll....lost). Ed was a strong kid who is a good rebounder. But not going to take it to the next level because he is either a very small center or a power forward who can't shoot from the outside...not a good fit in today's game. He averaged 10 and 7 on an emerging young team but I just see his upside as capped given the way he plays the game and his size. Overall on the team: I think Ash did an amazing job teaching a young team with no stars this year how to play both offensively and defensively. For him to go up 5 in the win column was amazing. I thought they would win 13 or 14 (the official line was 14.5 at the start of the season afternhis success in the A10 in 18-19 and I thought it was slightly generous) I love this freshman class and love the guys coming in. The two sitting out this year are impact players. I don't often post but believe me this team improved a lot and 5 extra wins is massive. What Ash did the year before in the A10 was downright ridiculous with the team he had. Give him time, everything is looking better. Takes a while to get the team in, learn the system and mature. But Ash is getting this team to improve every year and I have no doubt it will improve again next year. With good health, I think we have a shot at the NIT next year. That would be a realistic goal. Anyone dreaming about the NCAA's doesn't understand only a couple mid majors get an at-large every year. In two years, who knows? But let's start at trying for the postseason next year in any form. Hope everyone stays safe when it comes to their health and conservative in their finances and investments in these trying times.
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Post by big5vet on Mar 23, 2020 8:42:45 GMT -5
Well said and written.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Mar 23, 2020 11:49:52 GMT -5
I don't get it...
10 ppg 7.3 rpg 60% FG
in only 20 mpg...
Ed is a VERY GOOD college player... He will start 2 years in Providence... He will play more mins and be one of the best rebounders in the Big East...
He will make a LOT of money and play a LONG time in Europe...
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Post by diehardexplorer on Mar 23, 2020 12:03:47 GMT -5
I don't get it... 10 ppg 7.3 rpg 60% FG in only 20 mpg... Ed is a VERY GOOD college player... He will start 2 years in Providence... He will play more mins and be one of the best rebounders in the Big East... He will make a LOT of money and play a LONG time in Europe... you do realize people on here, who have seen ed play for la salle a lot more than you did, are allowed to have a different opinion than you, right? nobody is on here ripping him, saying he's lousy, etc. pretty much everyone on here wished he would have stayed, that he was a good player for us who would only get better. please don't turn this into something that it's not. the main reason he only played 20 mpg at la salle was because he got into foul trouble ... a lot. i personally don't know how much of an impact he'll have at providence and that's one of the reasons why. he's going to be going up against a higher caliber of big men night in and night out in the big east. imo, even if the immediate eligible transfer rule gets approved, he should take the redshirt year to work on his game. he would benefit by working on his defense, developing a 10-12 foot jumper, and learning how to pass out of the low post. i do agree that he will make a lot of money and play a long time in europe. good for him. wished he would have stayed but we'll be fine without him.
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Post by a10champion15 on Mar 23, 2020 12:06:46 GMT -5
I don't get it... 10 ppg 7.3 rpg 60% FG in only 20 mpg... Ed is a VERY GOOD college player... He will start 2 years in Providence... He will play more mins and be one of the best rebounders in the Big East... He will make a LOT of money and play a LONG time in Europe... I don't think it's outlandish to be skeptical how his game translates to the big east. Ed was a very solid A10 big. Don't think anyone is disputing that. His minute restriction was because he was often in foul trouble. His defensive mechanics need work as as he struggled at times and with some of the Big East guards and forwards that problem will be compounded. Hopefully, a year off will help him improve that skillset. Wish him all the best.
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Post by hideaway on Mar 23, 2020 12:16:48 GMT -5
I don't get it... 10 ppg 7.3 rpg 60% FG in only 20 mpg... Ed is a VERY GOOD college player... He will start 2 years in Providence... He will play more mins and be one of the best rebounders in the Big East... He will make a LOT of money and play a LONG time in Europe... I will take the other side of that. Okafor put up great #'s for the Sixers and had high points and had a very high FG % for the Sixers. Why wasn't he considered that good, then? Defense and conditioning. I do not think Ed is a VERY GOOD college player. If he was, why did his list of colleges that wanted him look like they did leaving La Salle. What PROVEN VERY GOOD players when transferring don't have tons of BCS teams going after them? The answer: none unless there is some underlying issue. Seems like I am not alone in my analysis. Nice kid. Decent mid major player. Strong, and a good rebounder. Undersized, can't shoot from the outside. He'll do fine but I stick with my analysis. Wish him the best. Don't think his #'s would have increased at La Salle and I don't see it happening at Providence either. Could he develop a three point shot in his year off? I guess it's possible but otherwise, what position is he playing as a starter?
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Post by sidclassof69 on Mar 23, 2020 12:29:42 GMT -5
I wish him well.He is a local kid+ he actually stayed home to play at a local university. My only problem with him, is the fact that he left his team with 3 games to go( plus at the time, A10 tourney).No matter the situation, U don’t do that( IMO) Is there any possibility, now that he has chosen his next place, that this subject can be put to an end? Just asking.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 23, 2020 13:25:25 GMT -5
I wish him well.He is a local kid+ he actually stayed home to play at a local university. My only problem with him, is the fact that he left his team with 3 games to go( plus at the time, A10 tourney).No matter the situation, U don’t do that( IMO) Is there any possibility, now that he has chosen his next place, that this subject can be put to an end? Just asking. But we're not at 14 pages yet.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 23, 2020 13:37:56 GMT -5
even if we put it to and end, it will get revived the minute he plays game 1 at Providence.
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Post by 23won on Mar 23, 2020 14:01:41 GMT -5
Ed was a good A10 player and was well liked by the La Salle fans.
The NCAA portal and eligibility rule changes put a program like ours at risk of being a Big East feeder school. That is the new reality of the P6 sports. Many here wish Ed stayed but can appreciate the multitude of factors that led him to see that the grass is greener elsewhere.
If Ed can adapt, improve and stay out of foul trouble he could have a good Big East career. He also could get recruited over and/or fail to stay on the court in a more competitive league and fail to match the numbers he had in the A10. He probably would have made Euro bucks whether he stayed here or went to PC. It is a limited sample of three games, but I thought we played better without him.
Good luck to Ed.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Mar 23, 2020 14:02:43 GMT -5
SEC, Big10, Big 12 and Big East coaching staffs watched every game Ed played on Synergy... Coaches from those conferences felt very strongly that he could help them win games...
I don't expect every one to agree... Moreover, it wouldn't be any fun if we all agreed...
10 and 7 while shooting 60% from the field is good in the A10... 10 and 7 while shooting 60% from the field in 20 mins per game is VERY good in the A10...
The significant and widespread demand for his services is evidence of a positive opinion toward Ed as a college player...
#GoExplorers
He's gone... We'll see how he does in the Big East...
All questions will be answered on the court
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Post by hideaway on Mar 23, 2020 14:21:19 GMT -5
I think we all believe he could "help them win games". That wasn't the question. I hope he does help them, I just believe it will be off the bench....really no slight towards him.
How many of these power schools felt he would start for them and thus offered him?
What position do you feel he will play in the Big East? Just wondering as I can't see him being big enough to play center at that level (in our games agains high level talent, that showed). If you think he can play the 4, that position is now really a stretch 4 who has to be able to shoot. Maybe 30 years ago he could have been a classic power forward like Charles Oakley or Dennis Rodman whose role was to basically grab boards and score a few. That position doesn't really exist any more. And if he plays the 4, how do you think he will guard today's 4 man who is quicker, can put the ball on the floor and certainly can shoot the 3. If he guards the 4, guys will pump fake and go by him. If you think he had foul problems before....
Anyway, good discussion, just wondering your opinion. I think we all liked watching Ed work on the block for his old school type game. Hopefully he defies the odds and takes it to the next level.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Mar 23, 2020 14:45:26 GMT -5
I just see it very differently...
I think the odds that he will start at PF and do very well are heavily stacked in his favor...
I've been a big Ed Croswell fan since he was playing with Philly Pride... I think he plays 27-30 mins per game and average 10 rpg... and at least 10 ppg...
Arkansas, St John's, South Carolina and several other HM programs offered Ed... He chose Ed Cooley, which makes sense
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Post by calsufan on Mar 23, 2020 15:41:21 GMT -5
I think we all believe he could "help them win games". That wasn't the question. I hope he does help them, I just believe it will be off the bench....really no slight towards him. How many of these power schools felt he would start for them and thus offered him? What position do you feel he will play in the Big East? Just wondering as I can't see him being big enough to play center at that level (in our games agains high level talent, that showed). If you think he can play the 4, that position is now really a stretch 4 who has to be able to shoot. Maybe 30 years ago he could have been a classic power forward like Charles Oakley or Dennis Rodman whose role was to basically grab boards and score a few. That position doesn't really exist any more. And if he plays the 4, how do you think he will guard today's 4 man who is quicker, can put the ball on the floor and certainly can shoot the 3. If he guards the 4, guys will pump fake and go by him. If you think he had foul problems before.... Anyway, good discussion, just wondering your opinion. I think we all liked watching Ed work on the block for his old school type game. Hopefully he defies the odds and takes it to the next level. I agree with a lot of what you say, but where I diverge is that position doesn't really exist anymore. If a player has a certain skill set that they are very good at, then it doesn't matter if it's old school or new school. A lot of coaches will take someone that's talented even if it's not the style of play that's en vogue. Talent in most cases trumps everything else. Now with that being said, to date, I don't think Ed has shown that he has had that very good talent. Don't get e wrong. he's a good player, but I'm not sure that he's a started on a Big East team. I'd be happy to be wrong as I wish him all the best. (7 more posts to page 14)
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Post by diehardexplorer on Mar 23, 2020 15:51:07 GMT -5
I think he plays 27-30 mins per game that will play a huge part in determining how well he does at providence. if he can stay on the floor 27-30 minutes a game, he has a good shot at averaging a double-double. based on his 2 years here, i'm not sure if he'll be able to do it. maybe cooley coaches him up and he learns to defend without fouling. it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 23, 2020 15:53:56 GMT -5
I think he plays 27-30 mins per game and average 10 rpg... and at least 10 ppg... You have Ed averaging a double-double in the Big East when he couldn't do it in the A10. That's laughable. Only 2 players in the Big East averaged a double-double this year: Tyrique Jones from Xavier (11.1 rpg and 14.0 ppg) and Paul Reed from DePaul (10.7 rpg and 15.1 ppg). Both those guys were 2nd Team All Big East this year.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Mar 23, 2020 16:09:51 GMT -5
I think he plays 27-30 mins per game and average 10 rpg... and at least 10 ppg... You have Ed averaging a double-double in the Big East when he couldn't do it in the A10. That's laughable. Only 2 players in the Big East averaged a double-double this year: Tyrique Jones from Xavier (11.1 rpg and 14.0 ppg) and Paul Reed from DePaul (10.7 rpg and 15.1 ppg). Both those guys were 2nd Team All Big East this year.
That's the beauty of these disagreements... They will be settled...
Young man averages 10 and 7.3 on 20 mpg in a tough A10... You say it's "laughable" that to posit that he could average 10 and 10 in the Big East with a year off to work on his game and body...
We'll see...
I watched him get an easy 24 and 18 against TWO bigger St. Louis players a few weeks ago..
We disagree... That's ok... I don't feel your opinion is "laughable"... I know my perspective isn't "laughable"...
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 23, 2020 16:20:21 GMT -5
...And averaged 7.5 and 7.5 in 25 minutes per game against Fordham this season ...the armpit of the A10. Nothing there shows me he is Second Team All Big East and going to put up double-double numbers consistently at Providence where the competition is much tougher and much more physical.
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Post by phillyhoops4life on Mar 23, 2020 16:29:40 GMT -5
...And averaged 7.5 and 7.5 in 25 minutes per game against Fordham this season ...the armpit of the A10. Nothing there shows me he is Second Team All Big East and going to put up double-double numbers consistently at Providence where the competition is much tougher and much more physical.
Ok... We'll see
This site will still be up
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Post by sidclassof69 on Mar 23, 2020 16:51:18 GMT -5
Can we please get to page 14!🤔🤔🤔
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