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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 6, 2019 9:55:18 GMT -5
but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. They both played high level high school and AAU ball. Don't need to ease anyone in.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 6, 2019 10:10:35 GMT -5
I'm more than fine with moving away from the notion that experienced players should start over those that may be more talented. I'm not going to name names on recent starting lineups where I agree this applies, but I don't think Deas or a major conference transfer starting is an experience over talent proposition. They both played high level high school and AAU ball. Don't need to ease anyone in. Spencer played in the ACC, Deas has >75 games at the mid-major level. Just like with coaching, college experience is far better prep than AAU ball This is to say nothing of how we distribute minutes in game 10 or even in the second half of game 1, its just about not risking an overwhelming start against a team we can easily lose to.
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Post by vital on Nov 6, 2019 10:28:51 GMT -5
When a double digit returning senior is option 9... Having said that I like Shaggy and hope he gets minutes and points and maximizes his abilities and opportunities Coach wants a team with a defensive mindset...He dont need a Carmelo Anthony type player unless the team is in foul trouble or injuries..
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Post by vital on Nov 6, 2019 10:30:30 GMT -5
Maybe I’m “completely wrong” in part because “I haven’t seen either of the freshmen play a single possession of basketball”, but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. Assuming we’re not punting on season win totals on opening night, I would think you’d ease them in a little. Youth Movement...Ash has his players now..They have to grow early...
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 6, 2019 10:34:10 GMT -5
Maybe I’m “completely wrong” in part because “I haven’t seen either of the freshmen play a single possession of basketball”, but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. Assuming we’re not punting on season win totals on opening night, I would think you’d ease them in a little. Youth Movement...Ash has his players now..They have to grow early... Yeah this, basically.
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Post by vital on Nov 6, 2019 10:36:12 GMT -5
Maybe I’m “completely wrong” in part because “I haven’t seen either of the freshmen play a single possession of basketball”, but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. Assuming we’re not punting on season win totals on opening night, I would think you’d ease them in a little. I'm more than fine with moving away from the notion that experienced players should start over those that may be more talented. Howard has said a few times playing time is determined by performance and effort in practice. He spoke very highly of Kenney's skill set and of Ray's work ethic. TBH with you I've never been too impressed by Deas. Solid player but he can be all over the place at times. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if he got into the starting lineup a few times. The minutes matter much more to me than who actually starts. Spencer played more than most with 25 minutes in the exhibition. I agree..i would sit Saul and Start Spencer..We can't have a starter as a senior play 20+ minutes and not score! Stone should see a lot of playing time down the stretch because he can spread the floor...3pt line is move back and this team is not a deep threat
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Post by MisterD on Nov 6, 2019 10:57:54 GMT -5
Youth Movement...Ash has his players now..They have to grow early... Yeah this, basically. I feel like you're arguing a different point than I'm making (and also ignoring that Spencer is one of Ash's players, not Giannini's). I'll let it go, but if we lose by 4 and lose the first 7:00 by 8, we can revisit.
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Post by vital on Nov 6, 2019 11:21:50 GMT -5
I feel like you're arguing a different point than I'm making (and also ignoring that Spencer is one of Ash's players, not Giannini's). I'll let it go, but if we lose by 4 and lose the first 7:00 by 8, we can revisit. Noo I'm not arguing! Maybe your looking for a great debate..if you read my previous quotes i said start Spencer over Saul..Coach G guys down and Ash guys are up...And if we lose it's call growing pains...if we win it's the start of something beautiful...
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Post by MisterD on Nov 6, 2019 11:25:06 GMT -5
I meant Joe. He's super mean.
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Post by hilarys on Nov 6, 2019 11:36:39 GMT -5
I'll be surprised if the starting lineup doesn't morph throughout the season... However I too am surprised Spencer isn't a starter, but maybe he has embraced the Lou Will role of 6th man and wants to be that guy? We don't know what's happening behind the scenes. If Ash is bringing the Nova mindset to La Salle, it's only a matter of time until Stone makes his way into the rotation more often, possibly paired with Croswell down low.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Nov 6, 2019 21:59:23 GMT -5
I feel like you're arguing a different point than I'm making (and also ignoring that Spencer is one of Ash's players, not Giannini's). I'll let it go, but if we lose by 4 and lose the first 7:00 by 8, we can revisit. The Spencer thing is curious but he might just be the 6th best guy.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 6, 2019 22:54:09 GMT -5
If Spencer is our 6th best player today, we’re either going to be really good or really bad.
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Post by big5vet on Nov 7, 2019 2:16:52 GMT -5
I'm taking Ash at his word that the starting line-up is, and will continue to be (IMO), determined by a player's intensity and effectiveness on defense. I think Spencer's strong suit is three pointing shooting, instant offense if you will, making him an excellent sixth man candidate.
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Post by coachd on Nov 7, 2019 13:32:21 GMT -5
Maybe I’m “completely wrong” in part because “I haven’t seen either of the freshmen play a single possession of basketball”, but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. Assuming we’re not punting on season win totals on opening night, I would think you’d ease them in a little. Said TV analyst John Gianinni during the game on 11/9.
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Post by golasalle on Nov 7, 2019 14:10:33 GMT -5
Maybe I’m “completely wrong” in part because “I haven’t seen either of the freshmen play a single possession of basketball”, but it’s weird to me that both Kenney and Ray would both start over Deas and Spencer. Assuming we’re not punting on season win totals on opening night, I would think you’d ease them in a little. Said TV analyst John Gianinni during the game on 11/9. Your obsession with Coach G is borderline pathological. You really need a hobby.
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Post by coachd on Nov 8, 2019 9:16:21 GMT -5
Said TV analyst John Gianinni during the game on 11/9. Your obsession with Coach G is borderline pathological. You really need a hobby. Your reaction to my posts tells me you need to develop a sense of humor KB.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 8, 2019 10:34:23 GMT -5
Agreed. That was really, really funny to anyone (like me) who has a sense of humor.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 8, 2019 10:42:18 GMT -5
Agreed. That was really, really funny to anyone (like me) who has a sense of humor. Perhaps he should have used the sarcasm font so we all knew he was being funny
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Post by calsufan on Nov 8, 2019 12:35:34 GMT -5
Agreed. That was really, really funny to anyone (like me) who has a sense of humor.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 1, 2020 11:47:30 GMT -5
The WCU Golden Rams have won 11 straight games and are ranked #10 in the nation.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 1, 2020 15:44:44 GMT -5
The WCU Golden Rams have won 11 straight games and are ranked #10 in the nation. Everyone here was freaking out.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 12, 2020 11:38:27 GMT -5
The WCU Golden Rams have won 11 straight games and are ranked #10 in the nation. Everyone here was freaking out. we were freaking out over poor FT shooting, sloppy play, and turnovers. At least the FT shooting has improved. But are we really going to say D2 West Chester is our yardstick now? Come on
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Post by calsufan on Jan 12, 2020 13:02:43 GMT -5
Everyone here was freaking out. we were freaking out over poor FT shooting, sloppy play, and turnovers. At least the FT shooting has improved. But are we really going to say D2 West Chester is our yardstick now? Come on You're really trying too hard with your yardstick BS.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 12, 2020 13:40:25 GMT -5
My new benchmark is a yardstick.
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Post by Gnocchi on Jan 12, 2020 14:10:11 GMT -5
we were freaking out over poor FT shooting, sloppy play, and turnovers. At least the FT shooting has improved. But are we really going to say D2 West Chester is our yardstick now? Come on You're really trying too hard with your yardstick BS.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jan 12, 2020 14:10:54 GMT -5
Maybe your benchmark should be turnovers. They were a problem against West Chester on November 2nd, and they remain a problem 2+ months later. Yeah, we can beat the West Chester's and the Fordham's of the world turning the ball over, but clearly not the UMass's and Mason's. We can gloss over it, happy with wins over Fordham and WC, but at this point it should have improved.
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