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Post by glorydays on Jun 23, 2019 17:50:04 GMT -5
What a train wreck! Will he be canned before, during or after the all star break?
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 24, 2019 10:04:13 GMT -5
While we're at it, let's include absentee team president Andy " MacFail " MacPhail and the analytics boy genius GM Matt " Moneyball " Klentak.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jun 24, 2019 10:15:05 GMT -5
Definitely their fault that Bryce Harper can't hit a baseball.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 10:28:40 GMT -5
Kapler hasn't done much wrong. Hard to fault him when you lose lead off hitter, third baseman forgets how to hit after 30 days. And you have 5 guys in the bullpen with an ERA above 6. There's really not a lot he can do.
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Post by las71 on Jun 24, 2019 10:30:31 GMT -5
I hate to blame Kapler for the lack of pitching. Klentak seemed okay with going into the season with what he had and it's clear we need another quality starter and reliever. Need to get some help soon or like last year a promising start will be meaningless.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 24, 2019 11:25:03 GMT -5
... and the analytics boy genius GM Matt " Moneyball " Klentak. I don't think this is right at all? The Angels were a pretty regressive organization through Klentak's tenure as AGM and only turned around when they hired Eppler (over Klentak) away from the extremely analytical NYY org.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jun 24, 2019 14:48:23 GMT -5
Phillies Baseball Operations :
Major League Player Information Coordinator --- Sam Fuld
www.inquirer.com/philly/sports/phillies/philadelphia-phillies-baseball-analytics-sam-fuld-rhys-hoskins-gabe-kapler-20180327.html
Phillies Baseball Operations - Research & Development :
Director, Baseball Research & Development --- Andy Galdi
Principal Engineer, Baseball Research & Development --- Zo Obradovic
Senior Quantitative Analyst, Baseball Research & Development --- Alex Nakahara
Lead Software Engineer, Application Development --- Spencer Bard
Lead Quantitative Analyst, Amateur Scouting --- Lewis Pollis
Lead Software Engineer, Infrastructure --- Natan Weinberger
Quantitative Analyst, Baseball Operations --- Corinne Landry
Quantitative Analyst --- Mike Czahor
Quantitative Analyst --- Kiri Oler
Software Engineer --- Marcus Wyche
Software Engineer --- Chris Schlitt
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Post by MisterD on Jun 24, 2019 14:57:25 GMT -5
Now that Ruben Amaro Jr. is gone, every MLB team has an analytics department. It would be malpractice not to. What I'm saying is that Klentak didn't come here as some revolutionary sabermetrics guru; its much more accurate to say he lost out to one who was charged with fixing the last front office he was a part of.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jun 24, 2019 19:59:01 GMT -5
The biggest flaw I see, with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions (Nola/Nerris?) the organization continually does a pee poor job of finding and developing major league pitchers. No matter how much the O produces seems like with their current staff the opposition will always be in it. I know there have been injuries but I am not sure even if all stayed healthy it would be significantly different.
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Post by calsufan on Jun 25, 2019 16:12:25 GMT -5
Definitely their fault that Bryce Harper can't hit a baseball. It's definitely his fault that they signed him in the first place. Harper was declining before this year and I don't think he's a clubhouse guy either. The contract was huge and it'll be an albatross around the team's neck for years to come. I was never a fan of his and I hate that the Phillies signed him.
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Post by MisterD on Jun 25, 2019 16:22:25 GMT -5
It has its flaws, but Harper's top 10 comps through age 25: Andruw Jones (945.1) Ken Griffey Jr. (923.9) Justin Upton (914.9) Ruben Sierra (908.6) Frank Robinson (907.0) Mike Trout (897.6) Miguel Cabrera (896.3) Tony Conigliaro (895.5) Jose Canseco (893.9) Eddie Mathews (893.8)
Seems like a good risk to take unless there was something back/shoulder in the medicals that would compromise that swing.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 14, 2019 16:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 14, 2019 16:40:57 GMT -5
Is there anyone nearly as inept in the city as Klentak and McPhail?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jul 14, 2019 19:18:18 GMT -5
Is there anyone nearly as inept in the city as Klentak and McPhail? Klentak is 38 and the Phillies have gone from a team nobody went to see to a team that is selling games out. I know you expect them to be 27 games over .500 right now despite finishing two games under last year...but relax. MacPhail won two World Series with the twins.
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Post by explorer88 on Jul 14, 2019 19:51:24 GMT -5
Is there anyone nearly as inept in the city as Klentak and McPhail? Klentak is 38 and the Phillies have gone from a team nobody went to see to a team that is selling games out. I know you expect them to be 27 games over .500 right now despite finishing two games under last year...but relax. MacPhail won two World Series with the twins. McPhail has done nothing with the Phillies. I only care about the Phillies. I could care less he won two World Series with the Twins. Ed Snider won two Stanley Cups with Flyers and never won another. Klentak is 38 years old. Is that supposed to mean something? Every year he has been in charge the bullpen is a disaster. Let’s give him 10 more years of disasters.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jul 14, 2019 21:19:36 GMT -5
I'm fine with not trading prospects, but can't they package some current big leaguers for something better? I know Kingery isn't everyone's favorite, but most days I'd rather see him in the lineup as opposed to Hernandez or Franco. Package one of those two, maybe Eickhoff or Velazquez and a B level prospect for an upgrade to the starting rotation. If can't be that difficult. (And don't crush me for using those players, I just grabbed them off the top of my head for examples). The real question is, would any team be willing to take Hererra's contract? And they have former top pick Cornelius Randolph as potential trade bait. I know he's hurt right now, but he probably will never make it with the big club. You got Harper in RF, then Haseley and Moniak (technically both CFs) ahead of Randolph on the depth chart going forward. There are pieces they could use.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 16, 2019 12:01:32 GMT -5
Is there anyone nearly as inept in the city as Klentak and McPhail? After seeing last night's press conference following the Phillies 16 - 2 annihilation by the LA Dodgers : Gabe " Moonbeam " Kapler.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Jul 16, 2019 13:32:34 GMT -5
maybe he will take away movies on the team bus
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Post by MisterD on Jul 17, 2019 8:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jul 17, 2019 8:58:33 GMT -5
Never been much of a Kapler fan, too new age-y for me. I have been dubious of his ability as a tactician. But I just can't lay this Phillies collapse on him. Awful, awful pitching staff. Not sure of what is the best way to completely analyze why? Injuries yes, lack of talent, I really think so. Minus Nola, as a whole it stinks! Arietta is the consummate pro, really works hard at his game but....
I get the impression the players like Kapler. If they do then it is time to hustle and hustle all the time. Not running out a play really reflects poorly on an athlete for me. (A big wart on 1 of my favorite players Jimmy Rollins game).
It is very natural that the unhappy fans and circling sports writers will look for a goat and Kapler will be it. Not a pitching staff that is a train wreck. If you do respect and support your manager Phillies run them out all the time!
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jul 17, 2019 20:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 18, 2019 13:33:38 GMT -5
Phillies manager Gabe " Moonbeam " Kapler, IMO, is ultimately responsible for failing to appropriately manage and discipline his players for their overall lack of hustle, failure to run out hit balls, failure to keep their heads in the game ( eg, keep track of how many outs there are in an inning ), ignoring base-running coaches signs, ill-advised, over-aggressive base running killing rallies, getting picked-off base, and other base running ( and first and third base coaches' ) mental errors that have been costing the team potential runs in key game situations.
Two most recent glaring examples :
[ It is a given that one of the team's major weaknesses is the dubious caliber of our bullpen relief pitchers. It is also a given that it is well-known that MLB umpires this season have been told to be on the lookout for pitchers retaliating against the opposing team by throwing at the next batter after home runs. ] Monday, 7 / 15 -- Phillies relief pitcher Yacheal Rios intentionally ( arguable ) hits LA's Justin Turner and gets ejected from the game by the umpire, immediately after Alex Lerdugo's 2-run homer, forcing ( he says ) " Moonbeam " Kapler to use rookie outfielder Roman Quinn to pitch the 9th inning in the Phillies 16-2 loss to the Dodgers ;
Tuesday, 7 / 16 -- Phillies " closer " Hector Neris intentionally throws at the head area of LA's David Freese, immediately following Matt Beatty's 3-run homer, resulting ( yesterday, 7 / 17 ) in Neris getting a 3-game suspension and an undisclosed fine from MLB. [ Neris is our closer and the only relief picher we have who has shown occasional effectiveness. ]
IMO there is just no way the Neris incident should have occurred the day after the Rios incident if Kapler was doing his job of proactively managing, educating and disciplining his players correctly and effectively.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 18, 2019 13:39:19 GMT -5
Justin Turner argued that Justin Turner wasn't thrown at intentionally and using a position player is smarter than burning a reliever.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 21, 2019 12:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 28, 2019 13:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 29, 2019 19:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jul 30, 2019 16:52:56 GMT -5
Traded a bag of balls
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jul 30, 2019 17:06:32 GMT -5
The kid the Phillies traded played at Penn
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jul 30, 2019 17:12:07 GMT -5
Was the GM’s kid’s roommate.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 30, 2019 17:15:49 GMT -5
I see both sides, that the Phillies traded legit nothing and that the Phillies are picking up a pitcher other teams will be very excited to face and paying atleast partial freight. Probably net bad.
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