Moultrie leaving

[thelasallelunatic]

Back to 20th and Olney?

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 16, 2021 16:12:45 GMT -5 thelasallelunatic said:

Back to 20th and Olney?

He's from the DC area.  I wondered if maybe Mason or GW given how many people have left those schools.

[roaddog77]

I read the verbal commits transfer on online and there is close to about 600 player transferring from their former university to fine the right fit for their skill set at the next school.Some player on the transfer portal on their second or third school. The point I'm bring up is the value of an college education. This is not like receiving your undergrad degree and going to graduate school at a difference university. Not sounding like a player hater on the player that transferring to a difference school, but some of them might not have a shot playing pro ball. Jamir Moultrie had a good season at NC Central average close to 10 point per game and one of the MEAC top three point shooter. Four player including Moultrie transferring from NC Central basketball program. My guess is that Moultrie might be home sick. My main point is that if you not a grad transfer, stay at the school and graduate with a degree.

[JoeFedorowicz]

Yeah kids should definitely be in it for the schooling (sarcasm font)

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Mar 17, 2021 5:21:02 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

Yeah kids should definitely be in it for the schooling (sarcasm font)

I mean, he didn't say they should exclusively be in it for the schooling.  But it's a fair point that someone that hasn't excelled at the A10 level but has been serviceable at MEAC level should stay at that level, because he's probably not transferring up and being productive.  That's a very valid point and while school obviously isn't he MOST important thing to most of these players, it should be considered.  Again, Joe just wants to be a condescending prick (not sarcasm font).

[JoeFedorowicz]

Roaddog said that his “main point” is that kids shouldn’t switch schools prior to graduation. That’s ridiculous and should be treated as such.

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Mar 17, 2021 7:29:38 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

Roaddog said that his “main point” is that kids shouldn’t switch schools prior to graduation. That’s ridiculous and should be treated as such.

He also cited someone that couldn't perform at the A10 level. Did well at the MEAC level. And that level was suitable so it doesn't make sense to transfer again. And the point he brought up is getting a college education for someone that is unlikely to have a professional career (i.e. Moultrie).  You're a self-important dope and should be treated as such.

[GlitterBro #2]

7 players are in the portal from NC Central - 4 seniors and 3 junior. The seniors are probably not a big deal, but still a lot

[JoeFedorowicz]

Mar 17, 2021 7:39:18 GMT -5 @endlessexploring15 said:

Mar 17, 2021 7:29:38 GMT -5 JoeFedorowicz said:

Roaddog said that his “main point” is that kids shouldn’t switch schools prior to graduation. That’s ridiculous and should be treated as such.

You're a self-important dope and should be treated as such.

Got me

[MisterD]

Mar 17, 2021 7:39:18 GMT -5 @endlessexploring15 said:

And the point he brought up is getting a college education for someone that is unlikely to have a professional career (i.e. Moultrie).

Kinda funny to project this sort of thing without considering kids can transfer for non-athletic reasons? Maybe Moultrie was unhappy with the basketball experience here and the educational experience at NC Central and wants to find the right mix of both.

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 17, 2021 7:59:48 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Mar 17, 2021 7:39:18 GMT -5 @endlessexploring15 said:

And the point he brought up is getting a college education for someone that is unlikely to have a professional career (i.e. Moultrie).

Kinda funny to project this sort of thing without considering kids can transfer for non-athletic reasons? Maybe Moultrie was unhappy with the basketball experience here and the educational experience at NC Central and wants to find the right mix of both.

Maybe he is transferring to St. Joe's now that they will have a pharmacy degree

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 17, 2021 7:43:14 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

7 players are in the portal from NC Central - 4 seniors and 3 junior. The seniors are probably not a big deal, but still a lot

Since I wrote this, another senior for them entered the portal.  I was curious about the makeup of their roster this past year and it is surprising:

7 Seniors
6 Juniors
0 Sophomores
1 Freshman

Assuming all the seniors are gone through transfers or graduation, and the 3 juniors in the portal transfer, there are left with 4 players for next year.

Interesting article about their team here and their struggles this season:

www.newsobserver.com/sports/article249691073.html

[thelasallelunatic]

Mar 17, 2021 9:15:30 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

Mar 17, 2021 7:43:14 GMT -5 GlitterBro #2 said:

7 players are in the portal from NC Central - 4 seniors and 3 junior. The seniors are probably not a big deal, but still a lot

Since I wrote this, another senior for them entered the portal.  I was curious about the makeup of their roster this past year and it is surprising:

7 Seniors
6 Juniors
0 Sophomores
1 Freshman

Assuming all the seniors are gone through transfers or graduation, and the 3 juniors in the portal transfer, there are left with 4 players for next year.

Interesting article about their team here and their struggles this season:

www.newsobserver.com/sports/article249691073.html

This screams to me the importance of having a balanced roster. There are about 5 teams in the country that can be a turnstile and have sustainable success. 2 of them didn't make the Tourney this year.

[explorer88]

Balanced rosters are going to be very difficult moving forward with all these ways to transfer.

[MisterD]

You know, if you wanted to slow down transfers but without imposing restrictions on the kids, you could do so while implementing salaries ...

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 17, 2021 12:16:05 GMT -5 MisterD said:

You know, if you wanted to slow down transfers but without imposing restrictions on the kids, you could do so while implementing salaries ...

yeah...but...I'm guessing a Duke could offer a higher salary than a North Carolina Central only 5 miles away. Does that slow down the transfers...or accelerate them? Or do you implement something like soccer where the team the player is going to pays a "transfer fee" back to the original team?

[MisterD]

No, only because transfer fees would serve to prevent players from moving at will. But if you have an NCAA allotted cap versus free spending Duke wouldn't have an advantage. (Which is one of many reasons it'll never happen.)

[Deleted]

The transfer fee is actually fascinating. Takes into account so much more than just a players abilities. Would give a nice advantage to mid majors (again, why the NCAA wouldn’t do it). But Galloway and garland probably still come home. But we could recoup some
Money on Khalid Lewis and Ed. Someone like stone would be marginal. But this would add a fascinating concept and would create quite some interesting jobs as people calculate what transfers a school wants. A school like Davidson or patriot schools with a historically good math dept. Could really crunch some numbers on that. Another revenue stream, like buy games.

[victoriouslasalle]

I do not know what the answer may be but sure hope one is found and soon. Speaking as a La Salle U basketball fan I find what is going on just disheartening and pretty hard to accept. I was a bit upset last year when Ed left, but I am just imagining if I am a U Mass fan I am now utterly blown away. You have a young star you are building a team around.... and then seemingly out of nowhere he is gone. It is discouraging, utterly disgusting for me to think if we were to somehow find our way to get some young talent that put us (after decades of predominantly losing) on a path to some winning basketball, they could be poached or otherwise leave the team at the drop of a hat. UGH!

They need to fix this. What is this world coming to

[MisterD]

So non-athlete students can freely leave and employees can freely leave but unpaid student-athletes can’t? Cmon.

[Deleted]

Mar 17, 2021 19:36:49 GMT -5 MisterD said:

So non-athlete students can freely leave and employees can freely leave but unpaid student-athletes can’t? Cmon.

Well unpaid students that are getting a free education can still leave, but if they are going to play somewhere else, then the school they are leaving gets compensated to some degree. Said school had already invest AT LEAST $50k in them.

[MisterD]

Put the same restrictions on academic scholarships?

[GlitterBro #2]

Mar 17, 2021 20:34:21 GMT -5 MisterD said:

Put the same restrictions on academic scholarships?

The difference being...the NCAA doesn't put limits on the number of academic scholarships a school can offer.