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Post by 23won on Mar 11, 2019 8:10:55 GMT -5
I think we can beat URI. We have better chemistry compared to when we played them earlier in the year, but it won’t be an easy task.
I think Phiri and Beatty should blanket Dowtin to deny him the ball off-ball. He is their best outside shooter and often gets left wide open in the corner where he can be hot if left open.
We will need to play two bigs most of the time. Ed probably will cover Langevine but if he gets mobile and easy off ball looks, Jared May need to cover him primarily. Either way, we should be planning a lot of second man help in the post and nearby guards should help on stripping. I think we have to play tight D down low and not allow Cyrilto get a clear path to the basket with more than a step. We need to keep Harris from getting hot also.
Fatts will bring his A game but I’d be inclined to spend more time stopping his penetration and fast break opportunities and invite him to take shots as long as we can get a hand in his face. He has a low shooting percentage so inviting the tough shot and denying the open looks are key.
This is an important matchup since we were in the final four with URI re a number of recruits. Win this game and it tilts the balance away from the Hurley past and plants a flag in the ground that Howard is the guy recruits should want to play for.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 11, 2019 9:37:09 GMT -5
I don't like the match-up. I think Rhode Island is too physical for us. I think Langevine gets our bigs into foul trouble and they will force us into turnovers. They also have a clear rebounding advantage. The one thing that could help us is that URI can struggle to score at times and a bad from the stripe. Because of this we may be able to keep the game close. If we can hit 3 or 4 big shots we have a chance to win. However, how often to these things fall into place for us?
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Post by vital on Mar 11, 2019 13:14:00 GMT -5
Maybe a smaller lineup will work in our favor and takeaway their guard play...the bigs just play straight up defense...none of RI bigs are capable of 30-40pts dont let Fatts or any other player get to much involved...plus it will save on the bigs getting in foul trouble and a fresh body out there...A Big Win is coming..
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 11, 2019 14:04:27 GMT -5
Take out URI and then catch VCU cold in its first game to break THE STREAK of non-semis appearances.
Lets go Explorers!
A-10 Tournament Record, 2005-18: 6-12 with 2 DNQ and 0 Semis
**2005 #6 W #3 UMass 70-64, L #2 X, 83-70 *2006 #3 L #6 Fordham, 64-62 2007 DNQ #14 2008 #7 W #10 Duq, 82-75, L #2 Temple, 84-75 *2009 #8 L #9 SLU, 62-60 2010 DNQ #13 **2011 #10 W #7 SBU, 75-73, L #2 Temple, 96-76 2012 #7 W #10 Richmond, 80-72, L #2 SLU, 78-71 *2013 #4 L #5 Butler, 69-58 *2014 #8 L #9 SBU, 82-72 **2015 #9 W #8 UMass, 76-69, L #1 Davidson, 67-66 **2016 #14 W #11 Duq., 88-73, L #6 Davidson, 78-63 *2017 #8 L #9 Davidson, 82-73 *2018 #12 L #13 UMass, 69-67
*Lost 6 as higher seed **Won 4 as lower seed 6 first-game exits
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Mar 11, 2019 14:51:17 GMT -5
This is an important matchup since we were in the final four with URI re a number of recruits. Win this game and it tilts the balance away from the Hurley past and plants a flag in the ground that Howard is the guy recruits should want to play for. [/quote]
Could you elaborate on this?
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Post by durenduren on Mar 11, 2019 16:10:42 GMT -5
This is an important matchup since we were in the final four with URI re a number of recruits. Win this game and it tilts the balance away from the Hurley past and plants a flag in the ground that Howard is the guy recruits should want to play for. I don't personally buy into this because it's just one game. Make the tournament finals, you'll raise some eyebrows. Win the tournament, then you might just begin to swing the momentum a tad. But only a tad. It's going to take more than a few games, and we should know that - the Sweet 16 momentum sure was fleeting. PS. The bar sure is low: Take out URI and then catch VCU cold in its first game to break THE STREAK of non-semis appearances.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 11, 2019 16:17:28 GMT -5
If they win the A10 tournament I’ll lose it.
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Post by durenduren on Mar 11, 2019 16:27:49 GMT -5
I'm not saying they'll win one game, let alone the tourney.
But if they do, god help us all.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 11, 2019 16:31:13 GMT -5
We would all be required to change our profile pictures to dolphins
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2019 16:50:18 GMT -5
If you think we have any chance, you should consider betting on it. I'm content to be happy if VCU loses.
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Post by las71 on Mar 11, 2019 16:53:43 GMT -5
If we shoot well, we win. We live and die by the three. Make a few early and we can beat anyone in the conference. If we're cold anyone can beat us. Go 'splorers.
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 11, 2019 16:54:27 GMT -5
Make the tournament finals, you'll raise some eyebrows. Win the tournament, then you might just begin to swing the momentum a tad. But only a tad. It's going to take more than a few games, and we should know that - the Sweet 16 momentum sure was fleeting. PS. The bar sure is low: Take out URI and then catch VCU cold in its first game to break THE STREAK of non-semis appearances. Not saying beat VCU and then be happy to go home but, with the Explos’ 0-fer the A-10 semis since 2002, the old barroom maxim at closing time comes to mind: “If they don’t meet your standards, lower your standards”...
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Post by 23won on Mar 11, 2019 18:18:02 GMT -5
This is an important matchup since we were in the final four with URI re a number of recruits. Win this game and it tilts the balance away from the Hurley past and plants a flag in the ground that Howard is the guy recruits should want to play for. Could you elaborate on this?[/quote] Fatts is in URI for two more years. URI’s coach will again hit the Philly market for good players. Fatts will be his #2 recruiter for Philly kids. We win the game and we can shut down the smack talk. Lose the game and you give them 2-0 bragging rights for kids who come down to a 50-50 decision for either school. McLeod and Scott has URI on their short list. We may not get those level kids at either school but getting kids slightly behind those levels is critical to moving the program up. You can discount it but I see it as meaningful.
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Post by coachd on Mar 12, 2019 12:32:58 GMT -5
Throw that 0-10 start out with the garbage. Everybody is 0-0 starting this week. I think we can catch Rhodey sleep walking for the noon time start.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Mar 12, 2019 12:54:54 GMT -5
dowtin, russell, and langevine combined for 61 of uri's 78 pts the first game. need to find a way to hold at least one of them below their average and limit russell's dribble penetration. la salle also missed at least 6-7 layups/dunks that game. shoot a decent percentage, keep the dribbling to a minimum, and hold our own on the boards and this is a winnable game.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 12, 2019 13:04:08 GMT -5
This is an important matchup since we were in the final four with URI re a number of recruits. Win this game and it tilts the balance away from the Hurley past and plants a flag in the ground that Howard is the guy recruits should want to play for. Could you elaborate on this? Fatts is in URI for two more years. URI’s coach will again hit the Philly market for good players. Fatts will be his #2 recruiter for Philly kids. We win the game and we can shut down the smack talk. Lose the game and you give them 2-0 bragging rights for kids who come down to a 50-50 decision for either school. McLeod and Scott has URI on their short list. We may not get those level kids at either school but getting kids slightly behind those levels is critical to moving the program up. You can discount it but I see it as meaningful. You are not considering the facilities. Rhodey is always going to have an advantage on us while we play at Gola. That not only makes them more appealing to kids were are both recruiting but also the general pool of recruits. Our head to head match-ups with Rhode Island isn't going to move the needle at all when kids are deciding on their school. G once told me every recruit asks these three questions in order: 1. When was the last time you made the tourney and what are the possibilities of making it if I come to your program 2. What are your facilities like? 3. How many players from your program are in the pros Unfortunately, #1 depends on #2 and #3 is inter-twined and we are lagging in the first two. #3 we are getting major help from BJ.
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Post by 23won on Mar 12, 2019 22:41:30 GMT -5
88, I don’t doubt your motives with your questions, but I have played sports and if I were to chase a recruit and it came down to some questions from an 18 year old I would answer as follows
URI has been good the last four years under Hurley; Hurley ain’t here r
We just beat them in the A 10 tourney
We are heading up
They are heading down
Do you want to trend up in your home town and make the NCAAs
Or
Trend down in an emptying arena in a sleepy town five hours away
My money is on Ash for the right answer
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 13, 2019 8:49:11 GMT -5
88, I don’t doubt your motives with your questions, but I have played sports and if I were to chase a recruit and it came down to some questions from an 18 year old I would answer as follows URI has been good the last four years under Hurley; Hurley ain’t here r We just beat them in the A 10 tourney We are heading up They are heading down Do you want to trend up in your home town and make the NCAAs Or Trend down in an emptying arena in a sleepy town five hours away My money is on Ash for the right answer What is your basis for suggesting we are heading up, that would make sense to an outsider? And invoking "emptying arena"?
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Post by MisterD on Mar 13, 2019 9:01:34 GMT -5
If we're not trending up ...
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Post by 23won on Mar 13, 2019 19:40:43 GMT -5
We are trending up.
I don’t think Cox can keep the Hurley momentum up and their attendance will decline. What do you want, an algorithm?
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Mar 13, 2019 19:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by hykos1045 on Mar 13, 2019 22:10:26 GMT -5
Take out URI and then catch VCU cold in its first game to break THE STREAK of non-semis appearances. Lets go Explorers!A-10 Tournament Record, 2005-18: 6-12 with 2 DNQ and 0 Semis **2005 #6 W #3 UMass 70-64, L #2 X, 83-70 *2006 #3 L #6 Fordham, 64-62 2007 DNQ #14 2008 #7 W #10 Duq, 82-75, L #2 Temple, 84-75 *2009 #8 L #9 SLU, 62-60 2010 DNQ #13 **2011 #10 W #7 SBU, 75-73, L #2 Temple, 96-76 2012 #7 W #10 Richmond, 80-72, L #2 SLU, 78-71 *2013 #4 L #5 Butler, 69-58 *2014 #8 L #9 SBU, 82-72 **2015 #9 W #8 UMass, 76-69, L #1 Davidson, 67-66 **2016 #14 W #11 Duq., 88-73, L #6 Davidson, 78-63 *2017 #8 L #9 Davidson, 82-73 *2018 #12 L #13 UMass, 69-67 *Lost 6 as higher seed **Won 4 as lower seed 6 first-game exits Every time I see this written out here, I feel inclined to report the error, so I'd prefer you don't remind me! "The streak" actually dates to 2003. The worst performance in an A10 tourney by far in my opinion was 2004 when we put up 42 points and probably missed as many shots (to none other than Rhode Island).
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Post by hykos1045 on Mar 13, 2019 22:24:42 GMT -5
If you think we have any chance, you should consider betting on it. I'm content to be happy if VCU loses. MisterD, I find it fascinating that they have Rhody twice as likely to beat La Salle, and then Rhody is projected four times as likely to beat VCU (their 12.4, to our 3.0). This means that the difference between the 8 and 9 seed, in the opinion of the number crunchers... becomes exponential with each match-up. There is no benefit, therefore, for the upset to be able to carry momentum, according to their figures, it's the opposite effect. The 0.2 literal odds by the end of it, is kind of insulting. By the math, that means they're giving us only 1 in 500 chances. The earlier posted just-for-fun* odds were paying 1 in 100, which I thought was potentially a round-up error, but even then I did not even comprehend a 400% difference between the literal odds and the book odds of going all the way. VCU is currently projected to be about an 8 seed. As to speculate what a 14-20 team from the A10 would get... It would be almost sort of fun if we'd be on the road at Gonzaga as a 16 vs 1. A somewhat less fun scenario is either taking Iona's spot in the play-in game, or playing against Iona in the play-in, for the rights to lose to Gonzaga. I don't even know if that could happen, but I like to examine all possibilities. Hopefully we at least give ourselves a chance at another game. *Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 13, 2019 22:38:43 GMT -5
I was told there would be no math...
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 14, 2019 4:32:43 GMT -5
I think those stats are based upon URI, not the number 8.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 14, 2019 8:54:07 GMT -5
Too long to quote on the phone, but I think 67% odds only calculates out to like a 4 or 5 point spread.
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 14, 2019 9:06:13 GMT -5
Take out URI and then catch VCU cold in its first game to break THE STREAK of non-semis appearances. Lets go Explorers!A-10 Tournament Record, 2005-18: 6-12 with 2 DNQ and 0 Semis **2005 #6 W #3 UMass 70-64, L #2 X, 83-70 *2006 #3 L #6 Fordham, 64-62 2007 DNQ #14 2008 #7 W #10 Duq, 82-75, L #2 Temple, 84-75 *2009 #8 L #9 SLU, 62-60 2010 DNQ #13 **2011 #10 W #7 SBU, 75-73, L #2 Temple, 96-76 2012 #7 W #10 Richmond, 80-72, L #2 SLU, 78-71 *2013 #4 L #5 Butler, 69-58 *2014 #8 L #9 SBU, 82-72 **2015 #9 W #8 UMass, 76-69, L #1 Davidson, 67-66 **2016 #14 W #11 Duq., 88-73, L #6 Davidson, 78-63 *2017 #8 L #9 Davidson, 82-73 *2018 #12 L #13 UMass, 69-67 *Lost 6 as higher seed **Won 4 as lower seed 6 first-game exits Every time I see this written out here, I feel inclined to report the error, so I'd prefer you don't remind me! "The streak" actually dates to 2003. NPOA - info was only for the 14-year G-STREAK, 2005-18, but THE STREAK started in 2003. 2003 #4 W #5 Fordham 74-62, L #1 St. Joe’s 68-48 2004 #6 L #3 Rhode Island 55-42 Hahn’s first team in 2002 went to the semis in what would have been the last year of Speedy’s contract. 2002* #4 W #5 Fordham 83-63, W #1 Temple 72-66, L #2 Richmond 68-60 *Played at the Spectrum Hard to believe that a kid could have started first grade and gone through college without the Explorers’ making an A-10 semi. Will 2019 be the year? BELIEVE!
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Post by MisterD on Mar 14, 2019 9:14:07 GMT -5
The 0.2 literal odds by the end of it, is kind of insulting. By the math, that means they're giving us only 1 in 500 chances. The earlier posted just-for-fun* odds were paying 1 in 100, which I thought was potentially a round-up error, but even then I did not even comprehend a 400% difference between the literal odds and the book odds of going all the way. Those odds look too long but we're not a conference that has fluke winners. Keeping in mind we used to only play 16 games, the only tourney winner who didn't have 10+ wins was 2005-06 Xavier and they were 8-8. A sub .500 team winning the A-10 is the new 16 seed beating the 1.
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Post by gymrat67 on Mar 14, 2019 10:05:59 GMT -5
The 0.2 literal odds by the end of it, is kind of insulting. By the math, that means they're giving us only 1 in 500 chances. The earlier posted just-for-fun* odds were paying 1 in 100, which I thought was potentially a round-up error, but even then I did not even comprehend a 400% difference between the literal odds and the book odds of going all the way. Those odds look too long but we're not a conference that has fluke winners. Keeping in mind we used to only play 16 games, the only tourney winner who didn't have 10+ wins was 2005-06 Xavier and they were 8-8. A sub .500 team winning the A-10 is the new 16 seed beating the 1. hykos1045 and MisterD : You guys both omitted the key divisor :
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Post by glorydays on Mar 14, 2019 17:44:09 GMT -5
Every time I see this written out here, I feel inclined to report the error, so I'd prefer you don't remind me! "The streak" actually dates to 2003. NPOA - info was only for the 14-year G-STREAK, 2005-18, but THE STREAK started in 2003. 2003 #4 W #5 Fordham 74-62, L #1 St. Joe’s 68-48 2004 #6 L #3 Rhode Island 55-42 Hahn’s first team in 2002 went to the semis in what would have been the last year of Speedy’s contract. 2002* #4 W #5 Fordham 83-63, W #1 Temple 72-66, L #2 Richmond 68-60 *Played at the Spectrum Hard to believe that a kid could have started first grade and gone through college without the Explorers’ making an A-10 semi.
Will 2019 be the year? BELIEVE! That kid is now about to complete the first year of grad school. For all our sakes, let’s hope it’s for a master’s degree and not a Ph.D. Then again, if it is Lori Loughlin's kid at least they are at a prestigious university and we still have the varsity blues.
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