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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 25, 2019 19:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 25, 2019 21:01:24 GMT -5
Those refs are getting no movies and no laughter on the bus ride home.
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Post by Gnocchi on Feb 25, 2019 21:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by coachd on Feb 25, 2019 21:59:07 GMT -5
The problem is the A10 can’t re-pay any monies potentially lost. I didn’t bet the game but I’d be steamed if I did and lost because the refs did review the last play and clearly got it wrong. Did they or someone they know benefit from their wrong decision? We will never know. Will all monies lost from the game be refunded? Will each ref, including the fourth ref the clock operator, be fully investigated?
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Post by Gnocchi on Feb 25, 2019 22:13:22 GMT -5
YAWN!! Conference won't release specifics, but the refs were disciplined  |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2019 22:16:34 GMT -5
The problem is the A10 can’t re-pay any monies potentially lost. I didn’t bet the game but I'd be steamed if I did and lost... But you didn't bet any money so is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Did they or someone they know benefit from their wrong decision? We will never know. Will all monies lost from the game be refunded? Will each ref, including the fourth ref the clock operator, be fully investigated? ... and time to put our tin-foil hats on. |
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Post by coachd on Feb 25, 2019 22:19:48 GMT -5
The problem is the A10 can’t re-pay any monies potentially lost. I didn’t bet the game but I'd be steamed if I did and lost... But you didn't bet any money so is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Did they or someone they know benefit from their wrong decision? We will never know. Will all monies lost from the game be refunded? Will each ref, including the fourth ref the clock operator, be fully investigated? ... and time to put our tin-foil hats on. Dude STFU... it is totally legit... ask anyone whoever bet if they'd expect a refund from such an obvious botched call. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2019 22:23:52 GMT -5
But you didn't bet any money so is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. ... and time to put our tin-foil hats on. Dude STFU A/S/L? And no, other people don't expect that because nobody has ever been refunded by a sport for a bet, regardless of the call. Come back to reality. Did the NFL refund anyone after that botched pass interference call that benefitted the Rams? Nope. |
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Post by coachd on Feb 25, 2019 22:26:05 GMT -5
A/S/L? And no, other people don't expect that because nobody has ever been refunded by a sport for a bet. Come back to reality. And yes people have been refunded from gambling establishments for botched calls as recently as the Rams vs Saints game. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2019 22:29:57 GMT -5
Give me proof of each -
- a league or sport refunding bettors because of an official's error, as you originally demanded.
- gambling establishment refunding bettors for a referee error, since you're moving the goal posts (and not that bullshit 'bonus credit' one sportsbook did following the Rams game, because it wasn't a refund, it was a PR stunt that netted them more money)
- and bettors being refunded for the botched pass interference call that in that Rams game, again moving the goal posts (and again, not that bullshit 'bonus credit' one sportsbook did)
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Post by coachd on Feb 25, 2019 22:35:05 GMT -5
Here you go bud... heavy.com/sports/2019/01/saints-rams-missed-call-penalty-betting/And the refs couldn't overturn that NFL call by rule. The A10 refs could and should have replayed the last 3.1 seconds by rule. Lamar Simpson needs to be terminated, the others severely disciplined for failing to tell Lamar that he was wrong and we must replay it. |
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2019 22:42:14 GMT -5
Literally cited the single, low-level sportsbook I mentioned that did a bullshit 'bonus' pay back that did not refund money that I told you was a lousy example.
Let's circle back to your original demand, since I know I'm not going to convince you of anything - A league or sport refunding bettors because of an official's error, like you asked of the A10?
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Post by coachd on Feb 25, 2019 22:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by durenduren on Feb 25, 2019 22:51:06 GMT -5
Steve. Try to read your damn sources. It's literally the same lousy sportsbook that issued bonus credits, not refunds. It's a gimmick to get more of your money, not a refund, you twit.
"The sportsbook is also offering refunds to sports fans who backed Duke via other sportsbooks and didn’t receive refunded wagers on the game . Bettors will just need to sign up with code KARMA and send PointsBet their bet slip through social media to receive up to $100 in bonus bets."
And other sportsbook bettors didn’t receive refunded wagers on the game because nobody else does it because it's not how any of this works.
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Post by calsufan on Feb 25, 2019 22:53:47 GMT -5
PointsBet, a licensed sportsbook in New Jersey, said it refunded wagers in the form of credits to be used on future bets after Zion Williamson's sneaker mishap in a game against the University of North Carolina.  |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Feb 25, 2019 23:26:31 GMT -5
There are times when I read things on this board that make me question the value of my diploma.
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Post by hykos1045 on Feb 26, 2019 1:25:52 GMT -5
It is a shame that the only way coachd can ever enjoy our team is to imagine outcomes that are big enough to result in somebody's immediate suspension/termination.
The comment in the game day thread about squishing the underdog in regulation (because the point spread of 8) was absolutely facetious, but that didn't stop coachd from taking it seriously.
As others have said, refunds on bets in some high profile games are merely marketing ploys, not mea culpas.
It is amazing that a person can believe his own narrative and make it look so effortless, like it didn't even cause him to strain. That's how he got his degree, the answers just come naturally to him.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 26, 2019 6:42:12 GMT -5
My rule of thumb is that these threads generally go off the rails once they reach the second and definitely third page. This one set a record.
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Post by broderickpresident on Feb 26, 2019 6:48:07 GMT -5
Ironically, the “punishment” will be more games in Olean
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Post by 23won on Feb 26, 2019 7:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Feb 26, 2019 8:35:42 GMT -5
Last summer I bet the Phillies money line against Washington and during a key 4th inning PA a very clearly low Slider from Scherzer to Herrera was called Strike two rather than ball two drastically altering the situation. After Herrera struck out I immediately called up The Bellagio where my friend had place my bet and informed them I’d be withdrawing due to umpire Negligence and possible bias, which the casino gracefully accepted. You may think it’s funny but these incidents cost hundreds of games and Millions of dollars every year and if you don’t hold Sports books accountable no one will. That 5-0 Nationals lead is cut almost in half if Herrera walks and the next batter Homers but the umpire weren’t allowing a fair game and so I Cancelled my bet as I felt obligated to do. I’m with Steve.
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Post by jellybean on Feb 26, 2019 9:05:14 GMT -5
I wonder if we will ever find out who pushed the bottom on the clock. It is my understanding that the referees have that belt pack with a bottom to start and stop the game clock. Does the scorer's table also have access to starting and stopping the game clock. The conspiracy lives on. Maybe in 2070.
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Post by golasalle on Feb 26, 2019 9:33:00 GMT -5
Last summer I bet the Phillies money line against Washington and during a key 4th inning PA a very clearly low Slider from Scherzer to Herrera was called Strike two rather than ball two drastically altering the situation. After Herrera struck out I immediately called up The Bellagio where my friend had place my bet and informed them I’d be withdrawing due to umpire Negligence and possible bias, which the casino gracefully accepted. You may think it’s funny but these incidents cost hundreds of games and Millions of dollars every year and if you don’t hold Sports books accountable no one will. That 5-0 Nationals lead is cut almost in half if Herrera walks and the next batter Homers but the umpire weren’t allowing a fair game and so I Cancelled my bet as I felt obligated to do. I’m with Steve.  |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Feb 26, 2019 9:37:51 GMT -5
other than the article written by marc narducci, where can you find this statement that was supposedly issued by the atlantic 10? you sure can't find it on their website, twitter, or facebook feeds. bill bradshaw's comments in the article are interesting. apparently the correct resolution would have been for la salle to get the ball back in front of their bench with a full 2.0 seconds left. that would have been plenty of time to get a good shot to tie or win the game.
something tells me we'll never see a formal press release or statement come out of the league office which is a joke.
at the very least, i hope that they have the common sense to never assign any of the three officials (lamar simpson, steve mcjunkins, and nathan farrell) to do a la salle game again. and if the clock was started by an official sitting at the scorer's table, the same goes for him too.
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 26, 2019 11:11:14 GMT -5
I can't tell if this is meant to be snippy or factual: "The bots will not be used at VCU home games over concerns that they are not yet able to properly process the rate of fouling that the Rams produce." |
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Feb 26, 2019 12:55:26 GMT -5
On the bright side with this, it would appear the league could have some limit to the home cooked officiating it might tolerate  . Many times I have really wondered! |
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Post by Gnocchi on Feb 26, 2019 13:23:38 GMT -5
other than the article written by marc narducci, where can you find this statement that was supposedly issued by the atlantic 10? something tells me we'll never see a formal press release or statement come out of the league office which is a joke.
Breaking News!Atlantic 10’s Official Statement Disciplining Refs |
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Post by Gnocchi on Feb 27, 2019 15:19:56 GMT -5
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. Many times I have really wondered! 