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Post by explorer88 on Mar 4, 2021 11:47:59 GMT -5
As far as recruiting, since the 1980's La Salle has had to find under-recruited players and diamonds in the rough. Come on. In the 80s and 90s how many Philadelphia kids chose La Salle despite higher offers. That just doesn't really happen anymore, and certainly not at the Simmons/Butler level. What did Rasual Butler win? Nothing and why didn't he win? Because La Salle needs more than Rasual Butler, Donnie Carr, Kareem Townes. They won nothing because we couldn't find enough good players to add to them.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 4, 2021 12:00:09 GMT -5
I appreciate that you’re atleast directing that vitriol at me rather than some teenage athletes. Progress.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 4, 2021 12:03:03 GMT -5
Glad to help you with your righteous path of teaching us all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 12:23:45 GMT -5
I'm not speaking to any individual recruit, past or current, but if you have the option to go above La Salle and choose La Salle, it might be because you see yourself as a focal point and not a complimentary piece. I imagine its hard for a coach to really know how those dynamics will play out and if kids don't mesh, it leads to a less-than-a-sum-of-their-parts situation. To use our favorite guy here, one Ryan Daly worked out for St. Joseph's of PA. I'm thinking three Ryan Daly's wouldn't. I think it is Ryans Daly as the plural. Like Attorneys General. La Salle's bread and butter should be the Jhamir Brickus/Christian Ray/Daeshon Shepherd types. The local kids that are 2* and maybe a 3* recruit that just gets overlooked. I would recruit those kids exclusively. And then you try to bring in a higher rated transfer who wants to come down. Does this win you a national title? No. But the cohesion should make you competitive. There is so much talent in this area that goes under-recruited or overlooked. Tap into that. Stop trying to get kids who are only angry it didn't work out at a higher level. This is 100% what I've been saying. Don't go for the super talented transfers that have effort/coachability issues. Get the kids that will compete like hell, be coach able, are talented enough and play defense. If Ash did that, this season would have been at least .500 next year would be a 16-10 year and the following year we would be looking at a 20 win season. Instead, what we have seen is pretty talented kids who seem to have effort/coachability issues and haven't gotten better. Maybe Ash tried to win too fast and now the wheels are falling off. But if you play hard and smart for 25 games, you will win A LOT.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 4, 2021 12:32:36 GMT -5
Let's hope we are back to a normal 30-33 game schedule next season.
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Post by hykos1045 on Mar 4, 2021 12:56:11 GMT -5
The recruiting is complicated for mid majors. If you get too many kids who are decent recruits they all expect to play starter minutes and when they don't they look elsewhere. I understand that kids want to play but it makes it difficult for schools like ours to have depth. Coaches at mid majors sell playing time but if someone better comes in then the minutes aren't there. I don't believe Ayinde transferred because of Ash, I believe he transferred because of Brickus. I understand but it makes it difficult to get a strong backup pg. It's difficult to convince a kid who was all league in High School that 12 minutes a game should be enough for him especially when his high school gym was bigger and had better crowds. These are tough times for the smaller mid majors. To lessen the blow, play up tempo, press and run... the rotation will automatically balloon to 9-10 guys out of necessity to keep the team fresh. I'm not going to go revisit our December threads, but this here was exactly his game plan going into the season. He did a lot of line substitutions. With mixed results, winning at Drexel in a running match, but losing games like Army which we all felt we could have, should have won.
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Post by hykos1045 on Mar 4, 2021 13:03:36 GMT -5
Let's hope we are back to a normal 30-33 game schedule next season. I think I see your logic here from a fan's perspective. I did not though want to cram in make-up games just to say we played everybody. The George Mason redo and the St Joe's third visit, is proof our team didn't really lack for chances to prove themselves.
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Post by golasalle on Mar 4, 2021 13:13:17 GMT -5
To lessen the blow, play up tempo, press and run... the rotation will automatically balloon to 9-10 guys out of necessity to keep the team fresh. I'm not going to go revisit our December threads, but this here was exactly his game plan going into the season. He did a lot of line substitutions. With mixed results, winning at Drexel in a running match, but losing games like Army which we all felt we could have, should have won. Correct Hykos and he was roundly criticized for it by many here who wished he would stick to a 7-8 man rotation.
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 4, 2021 13:43:52 GMT -5
Glad to help you with your righteous path of teaching us all.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 4, 2021 13:44:20 GMT -5
Alright let's take it down a notch.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 4, 2021 16:20:42 GMT -5
45 minutes on Bing searching for just the right image only to get scolded. I'd give him a pass.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 4, 2021 17:23:54 GMT -5
This going to cause us to lose another chairback donor from the board I am sure.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Mar 4, 2021 17:41:30 GMT -5
La Salle's bread and butter should be the Jhamir Brickus/Christian Ray/Daeshon Shepherd types. The local kids that are 2* and maybe a 3* recruit that just gets overlooked. I would recruit those kids exclusively. And then you try to bring in a higher rated transfer who wants to come down.
Does this win you a national title? No. But the cohesion should make you competitive. There is so much talent in this area that goes under-recruited or overlooked. Tap into that. Stop trying to get kids who are only angry it didn't work out at a higher level.[/quote]
I agree with this. (although Clark was left out) But I also agree with Del that our roster pretty much reflected this. I was not able to actually watch that many games. But I do recall some where our players displayed some fine "D" and hustle.
I simply don't know what was going through Ash's mind. But Kimbrough should have been given a whole lot more playing time. Ash was complicit in Jared's decision if it was over playing time. And if so, Ash made a horrendous decision since La Salle almost NEVER lands a truly athletic, talented big man. I suspect any others leaving will be due to Ash's "suspect" personnel decisions and rotations. And yes, we should implement a system and recruit those who fit the system. Ala Davidson.
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Post by walkon on Mar 4, 2021 17:46:46 GMT -5
La Salle's bread and butter should be the Jhamir Brickus/Christian Ray/Daeshon Shepherd types. The local kids that are 2* and maybe a 3* recruit that just gets overlooked. I would recruit those kids exclusively. And then you try to bring in a higher rated transfer who wants to come down. Does this win you a national title? No. But the cohesion should make you competitive. There is so much talent in this area that goes under-recruited or overlooked. Tap into that. Stop trying to get kids who are only angry it didn't work out at a higher level. Correct.... that strategy plus transfers. That’s how we could compete.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 4, 2021 20:21:03 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but Jamir Moultrie was a 4 star recruit and he was underwhelming as a guard. I'm trying to think of other 4 stars that we've had....Aaric was a 5 star but that was over 10 years ago.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 4, 2021 20:42:51 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but Jamir Moultrie was a 4 star recruit and he was underwhelming as a guard. I'm trying to think of other 4 stars that we've had....Aaric was a 5 star but that was over 10 years ago. Lunatic, Moultrie was not a 4 star recruit. He was a three star. I never saw a 4 star ranking for him.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 4, 2021 20:46:01 GMT -5
Not for nothing, but Jamir Moultrie was a 4 star recruit and he was underwhelming as a guard. I'm trying to think of other 4 stars that we've had....Aaric was a 5 star but that was over 10 years ago. Not that it matters, but verbal commits has him as a 3* everywhere. www.verbalcommits.com/schools/la-salleClifton was a 4. Sherif was a 4. So was Traci Carter. None of our listed 2022 interests are anything more than a 2.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 4, 2021 21:01:38 GMT -5
Maybe I got Carter and Moultrie mixed up.
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