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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 9:29:14 GMT -5
Joey Brackets once again proves his total homerism and anti-La Salle bias as his latest "S-curve" rankings have the Hawks coming in at #63 and La Salle at #73. Other than ESPN's BPI rankings, which haven't been updated since December 20th and don't take into account their loss to Fairfield, his is the only current ranking where I can find St Joe's ahead of La Salle. twitter.com/ESPNLunardiLa SalleRPI - between 32 and 35 depending on what site you look at KenPom - 59 Sagarin - 70 ESPN BPI - 89 St Joe'sRPI - between 90 and 104 depending on what site you look at KenPom - 61 Sagarin - 80 ESPN BPI - 85 It's a joke this guy gets a national stage to publish this garbage. When it comes to St Joe's, he doesn't have an objective bone in his body.
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Post by cpico on Dec 27, 2012 9:52:41 GMT -5
Joey Brackets once again proves his total homerism and anti-La Salle bias as his latest "S-curve" rankings have the Hawks coming in at #63 and La Salle at #73. Other than ESPN's BPI rankings, which haven't been updated since December 20th and don't take into account their loss to Fairfield, his is the only current ranking where I can find St Joe's ahead of La Salle. twitter.com/ESPNLunardiLa SalleRPI - between 32 and 35 depending on what site you look at KenPom - 59 Sagarin - 70 ESPN BPI - 89 St Joe'sRPI - between 90 and 104 depending on what site you look at KenPom - 61 Sagarin - 80 ESPN BPI - 85 It's a joke this guy gets a national stage to publish this garbage. When it comes to St Joe's, he doesn't have an objective bone in his body. You just have to laugh and shake your head. But most importantly we have to keep winning. Hopefully the team comes to play on the road against Miami to get a much needed win. It will be tough since I would assume Miami will have Johnson back by then. If we do what we are supposed to do by beating Siena and Penn, and also go pull out a win in Miami then you have some nice momentum going into conference play.
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Post by stlexplorer on Dec 27, 2012 10:59:33 GMT -5
If Raftery even mentions La Salle I get excited meanwhile Lunardi blatantly petitions for St. joe's every chance he gets
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Post by vasalos on Dec 27, 2012 13:18:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2012 13:52:51 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong. I'm very positive about the team right now. The second half of the Iona game and the first half of the Sacred Heart game were two of the best halves of basketball I've seen a La Salle team play in a long time. I'm optimistic this team is just starting to put it together. But what gets me is that the casual college basketball fan will go on ESPN and follow Lunardi's Bracketology crap which is perceived to be good and unbiased information when it couldn't be further from the truth. Unless you're a diehard college b-ball fan, you wouldn't know about any of these other bracket projections. Once again, it's about perception. La Salle at #73 is too low, but it's not that far off and I don't have a big problem with it because as of today, we are at best a bubble team because we don't have a win against a Top 50-100 RPI team.....yet. But for him to further his agenda by throwing St Joe's in the mix all because of one win against a vastly overrated Notre Dame team is just plain wrong. They don't belong anywhere near #63. If he wasn't a St Joe's employee, they'd be nowhere near that high.
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Post by vasalos on Dec 27, 2012 14:51:04 GMT -5
As much as I want to criticize Lunardi here, I have to say that the average fan has to know better. All statistical models contain bias; Lunardi's bias is just more upfront because of his courses. However, bracketology historically has favored programs with recent NCAA tournament success and programs that played more "powerhouse" teams regardless of the result. Consequently, St. Joe's gets the nod for playing ND, FSU and Creighton even though they lost two out of the three. This bracketologist built his bracket with the same bias and I called him out for it: basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2012/12/w-12-bp68.html
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Post by coqui900 on Dec 27, 2012 16:34:35 GMT -5
What angers me more is that the average fan wouldn't know Lunardi is a paid employee by St. Joe's and that no one at ESPN seems to make him disclose that whatsoever. St. Joe's isn't anywhere near as good as projected this year.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 27, 2012 17:52:29 GMT -5
What angers me more is that the average fan wouldn't know Lunardi is a paid employee by St. Joe's and that no one at ESPN seems to make him disclose that whatsoever. St. Joe's isn't anywhere near as good as projected this year. He has his affiliation on his twitter and somewhere on ESPN.
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Post by rcoz on Dec 27, 2012 20:49:21 GMT -5
it doesnt surprise me with him he lives and works on campus. that is why i want to make it tooo show people
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Post by coachd on Dec 28, 2012 15:15:16 GMT -5
Lunardi has no affect on the NCAA Tournament selection committee. His analysis is meaningless for the most part.
Maybe ESPN should hire someone else to do the analysis who graduated from a Division 2 university... it would provide more validity but again it would have zero affect on the committee.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 28, 2012 17:45:53 GMT -5
I just got a good 10 minutes with Joe, he showed me the math. If you are interested, I'll share over PM.
~Joe Fedorowicz
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Post by vasalos on Dec 28, 2012 17:55:05 GMT -5
Eric Prisbell would be a better person to talk to at USA Today who scored 20% higher than the average bracket. Lunardi only scored 4.8%. Joe has had a negative variance across 3 years while Eric has scored nearly 16% across 3 years. With those kind of results, people should not be interested in Joe's math; it's clearly not very good math. bracketproject.50webs.com/rankings.html
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 28, 2012 18:02:17 GMT -5
Pretty sure he isn't at Hagan tonight.
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Post by vasalos on Dec 28, 2012 18:09:08 GMT -5
Go Iona!
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Post by durenduren on Dec 28, 2012 19:19:31 GMT -5
Isaiah isn't suited up, should make it interesting. See if SJU's 5 men can last the whole game with Iona's speed, given they have little of a bench.
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