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Post by SICguy84 on Feb 10, 2016 15:38:24 GMT -5
It is hard to believe we were the media darlings and had the nation excited about our brand of basketball just a few years ago. Don't worry the fickle and lazy media will come out of the woodwork next year if all goes well just like they did in 2012-2013. So I guess the program that "died alone in the alley," was resurrected from 2011-2013 and now has expired in the alley a second time. Very biblical on this Ash Wednesday.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 10, 2016 15:40:47 GMT -5
Sadly, looking in hindsight, the University had two opportunities to make the right investment in its program and failed both times. When Hayman was originally built and we were coming off a run of 2 National Championship Game appearances and a season where we might have had the 2nd best team in the country and some real momentum, it wasn't built to house the basketball games. I firmly believe that had we made a move back then, it would have put us in a much different position to maintain that momentum. The second opportunity came when the renovation to hayman came along. we all know that story and live with that disaster of a decision every time we attend a game. Even then, I think things could have been different with a proper investment at that time.
Given the location and the history, like MisterD says, proper investment would lead to a VERY high ceiling with this program.
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Post by coachd on Feb 10, 2016 16:09:24 GMT -5
G is clearly in a double-down situation. If we make the post-season next year he stays a few more years, anything less and he is walking back to Rowan to beg for a job as an assistant.
Never tell me the odds unless I'm playing blackjack. But I won't listen to fear tactics as experience has taught me to play that last $25 and more times than not I turn into hundreds more. And finish ahead. But you must follow basic strategy (at least a slightly modified version). Does G have the ability to play that last hand and get us that one additional recruit for next season or will he try to hold onto it for the following year and hope he is back?
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 10, 2016 16:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Feb 10, 2016 16:36:18 GMT -5
... anything less and he is walking back to Rowan to beg for a job as an assistant. S H U T U P P L E A S E
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 10, 2016 17:09:19 GMT -5
Explaining coaching strategy and betting on oneself....also pictured, Coachd
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Post by theneumann64 on Feb 10, 2016 18:15:27 GMT -5
I would argue we are NOT the worst in the A10 in terms of overall program, but we are probably in the bottom tier of programs in the conference and maybe the best of that bunch. Dayton, VCU and SLU are the premiere programs I would argue. SJU, GW, DAV, URI, RICH, UMass I would put in the "traditional/typical A10 program LAS, DUQ, SBU, GMU, FORD I would put in that bottom tier and would probably argue LAS is the best of that group. Yes, GMU has a facility on par with that top tier, but they've only been a program since 1978 and while they did well with a great coach in the CAA, Personally, I just don't view them as a great basketball school. At best you move them to the next tier of avg A10 program, thus the debate about if La Salle is the best of the bottom tier. I would like to see La Salle make the commitment to move to that "typical" A10 program because those programs are regular post season teams and are really nice programs. I think we're moving up the ranks, not down, but to make that next step the Unviersity needs to make a commitment to that direction, it's not going to just happen on its own. I think this is pretty much on the money. Can't think of anything to even nitpick on it or slightly differ on.
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Post by coachd on Feb 10, 2016 19:36:39 GMT -5
... anything less and he is walking back to Rowan to beg for a job as an assistant. S H U T U P P L E A S E Close your eyes.
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Post by rp01 on Feb 10, 2016 22:07:04 GMT -5
Just to mention Charlotte is in conference usa now I think because of d1 football and they suck.
Also, it is absurd to say Dr. G would beg for an assistant job. He could get a job at a low d1 school tomorrow if he wanted. Maine, Drexel, Penn, etc.
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Post by calidelphia on Feb 11, 2016 0:24:43 GMT -5
Ben Simmons and Jamal Murray. Who is the third? I was thinking actual rostered players. So I was thinking jermaine, Lewis and up until last week stukes.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2016 17:32:23 GMT -5
Speaking of nothing ... do you think a team has ever started five transfers in the same game? That would be kinda cool.
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Post by broderickpresident on Mar 10, 2016 20:04:10 GMT -5
Speaking of nothing ... do you think a team has ever started five transfers in the same game? That would be kinda cool. If you count juco transfers, most definitely. Bob Huggins' final four team at cincy in 1992 was almost exclusively transfers, iirc, for instance. They'd been bad for so long at that point that that was how he got the ball rolling
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Post by broderickpresident on Mar 10, 2016 20:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2016 20:34:03 GMT -5
Huggins exists just to piss me off.
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Post by broderickpresident on Mar 10, 2016 20:38:04 GMT -5
Huggins exists just to piss me off. I just love that he was described at the time as "well dressed." 1992 was before he'd stopped giving all fucks about anything
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Post by lwc4591 on Mar 11, 2016 9:57:38 GMT -5
Don't expect a team much above .500 next season because G does not get the most out of his players due to very average coaching. Dunphy with this talent, depth and experience would easily win 23-24 games next year and probably finish in top 2 or 3 teams in the conference with an NCAA bid to boot. Once in awhile a player comes into this program and goes out at a much improved level. Look at Joes and Owls and over and over again you see solid players turn into well above average players.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 10:17:11 GMT -5
So could Coach K. We should offer the job to Dunphy or Coach K.
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Post by durenduren on Mar 11, 2016 10:20:16 GMT -5
So could Coach K. We should offer the job to Dunphy or Coach K. Not happening, bud. Hurley to Rutgers. Coach K to URI. Dunphy to Duke. La Salle to the dumpster.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 10:31:25 GMT -5
Howard to St. Louis. Legler to Temple.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 11, 2016 13:16:59 GMT -5
Huggins exists just to piss me off. Just Huggins? What about Boeheim, Calipari and Pitino?
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Post by coqui900 on Mar 11, 2016 13:28:07 GMT -5
What about RPI gains?
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 13:38:07 GMT -5
Just Huggins? What about Boeheim, Calipari and Pitino? As a believer that every major program commits violations (and that a lot of violations are stupid), I like Calipari. I think he's one of the more honest coaches out there in terms of making his program symbiotic. Boeheim is his opposite and a total shitbag.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 13:39:24 GMT -5
Looks like I wanted "mutualistic". I'm a science idiot.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 11, 2016 14:16:31 GMT -5
Just Huggins? What about Boeheim, Calipari and Pitino? As a believer that every major program commits violations (and that a lot of violations are stupid), I like Calipari. I think he's one of the more honest coaches out there in terms of making his program symbiotic. Boeheim is his opposite and a total shitbag. I'll disagree with you on Calipari. I think he's as slick as they come. As bad as Calipari or Pitino? No, but he's just a level down from those two. Edit: However, I will agree with you that his program is mutualistic, even if I don't agree with how he does things.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 16:35:12 GMT -5
They're all gross to some extent, I just like that Calipari seems to be gross to his players' benefit more so than a lot of the others. Obviously it works out for him as well in that it creates a cycle, but encouraging one and done is kinda sorta a little unselfish.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 11, 2016 16:47:56 GMT -5
So he games the system by exploiting the arguably worst part of it, honestly. Great guy that killed two programs in his tenure.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 11, 2016 16:50:30 GMT -5
The arguably worst part of the system is kids fleeing as soon as possible to get paid for their efforts?
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 11, 2016 17:45:22 GMT -5
The arguably worst part of the system is kids fleeing as soon as possible to get paid for their efforts? First part not the second. That they have to go at all. No classes at Kentucky.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 16:17:32 GMT -5
Also: +8 (10 to 18), +6, +5, and +4 are G's top four "gap up" seasons. True, but he's also never bottomed out before or had more than one major transfer join the roster in a single year. Also, in the 1999 season, G took Maine from 7 wins to 19. So there's that.
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