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Post by mookie on Jul 7, 2015 5:41:40 GMT -5
This was very surprising but I believe its addition by subtraction. Lewis played with max effort and provided a spark from to time. Wishing him the best.
However, this opens up more time for guards (shuler) that G wouldn't have given since Lewis is older and G is loyal to a fault. Both Shuler and Stukes offer more and will be here longer. They need to play plus, from everything we've read, they've improved and appeared to be deserving. I wouldn't say this this season is going to be bad. If .500 is bad then we may be expecting too much or out of touch with the definition of "bad". It's important for our players to develop and get experience this year AND be competitive to help with building a winning mentalitity and recruits especially with the thought that next year's team will be really good. I'm excited for this season and seeing them develop.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 7, 2015 9:16:32 GMT -5
Says a lot about how far we've come since 2001 that a "bad" season may be one in which we win 17 games.
It hurts on the depth, but it's not a death-knell by any means. I wish him well and am grateful for his effort here. He made some big shots and was a strong defender, however, he also dominated the ball much like Ruben Guillandeaux did and needed it in his hands to make plays, which I think also contributed to the lack of ball movement and motion we saw in the past. Kid played his guts out and did his best, was never an issue off the court (to my knowledge) and seemed like a good person and you can't ask for more than that.
The timing is strange and makes me think there is something more in the works than just a sudden horoscope revelation.
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Post by 23won on Jul 7, 2015 10:00:17 GMT -5
Timing could be due to finishing summer credits to enable graduating and transferring freely as a fifth year player. Also could be a recognition of the emergence of JS/AS in Prague. Could be one, the other or both. I don't think there is much of a back story beyond that.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 7, 2015 10:28:13 GMT -5
I thought he graduated in May
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Post by calidelphia on Jul 7, 2015 11:24:27 GMT -5
Could really be as simple as finding a school that offers a post grad that he is interested in. He also deserves a chance to have a winning 4th year and I don't see that happening this year. I doubt he's leaving because of his or G's "antics". This does not have the smell of a sour transfer situation tho.
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Post by sweat83 on Jul 7, 2015 11:43:33 GMT -5
Two possible place he'll end up...Rider and Hofstra? Just basing this on locale.
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Post by manayunk53 on Jul 7, 2015 11:44:06 GMT -5
He made some big shots and was a strong defender, however, he also dominated the ball much like Ruben Guillandeaux did and needed it in his hands to make plays, Also somewhat similar - one player changed schools; the other changed the pronunciation of his name.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jul 7, 2015 11:44:23 GMT -5
I thought he graduated in May Walked in May, but graduated later? Possibly.
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Post by 23won on Jul 7, 2015 11:53:23 GMT -5
LSU, you may be right. In thinking about this more, I am totally OK with this transfer. It could mean that Karl doesn't redshirt, which could work out to our benefit in developing a sniper one year earlier. Let's face it, minutes would be more scarce for Karl as a redshirt frosh next year with Pookie, BJ and Henry coming on board. This way, he gets a chance to earn minutes as a true frosh and solidify minutes as a roster soph.
I think Amar and Johnnie can do a good job with the point and distribute well to our scorers. I think those two have a better ability to create scoring opps for all 5 players on the floor; with Khalid and DJ playing extended minutes the last two years, in all honesty we did not have a "5 to score lineup" and we frequently looked like a "3 to score lineup" where defenses cheated on the "3".
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Post by MisterD on Jul 7, 2015 11:55:45 GMT -5
Could really be as simple as finding a school that offers a post grad that he is interested in. He also deserves a chance to have a winning 4th year and I don't see that happening this year. I doubt he's leaving because of his or G's "antics". This does not have the smell of a sour transfer situation tho. Really good point. A kid who likely won't play overseas and has that extra year already in his pocket is probably just looking to maximize his education. We (self included) tend to look at this through only a basketball lens.
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Post by coachd on Jul 7, 2015 16:20:03 GMT -5
The tools that set the rules for the NCAA really need to have their collective butts kicked. No player should be able to leave just because they graduated and go wherever they want without sitting for a year.
I am ok with Lewis leaving though as I didn't see consistent performances from him game-to-game. The guards need to play as a cohesive unit this season.
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Post by mookie on Jul 7, 2015 16:53:00 GMT -5
The tools that set the rules for the NCAA really need to have their collective butts kicked. No player should be able to leave just because they graduated and go wherever they want without sitting for a year. I am ok with Lewis leaving though as I didn't see consistent performances from him game-to-game. The guards need to play as a cohesive unit this season. What? So it's ok in this case because it benefits you in some capacity? Let's punish the kid for doing exactly what he was supposed to do...Hypocrite
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:42:13 GMT -5
LSU, you may be right. In thinking about this more, I am totally OK with this transfer. It could mean that Karl doesn't redshirt, which could work out to our benefit in developing a sniper one year earlier. Let's face it, minutes would be more scarce for Karl as a redshirt frosh next year with Pookie, BJ and Henry coming on board. This way, he gets a chance to earn minutes as a true frosh and solidify minutes as a roster soph. I think Amar and Johnnie can do a good job with the point and distribute well to our scorers. I think those two have a better ability to create scoring opps for all 5 players on the floor; with Khalid and DJ playing extended minutes the last two years, in all honesty we did not have a "5 to score lineup" and we frequently looked like a "3 to score lineup" where defenses cheated on the "3". As of a few weeks ago, I was told the plan was to not redshirt Karl. With Khalid leaving, I'd say Karl playing is a certainty now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:48:38 GMT -5
The tools that set the rules for the NCAA really need to have their collective butts kicked. No player should be able to leave just because they graduated and go wherever they want without sitting for a year. I am ok with Lewis leaving though as I didn't see consistent performances from him game-to-game. The guards need to play as a cohesive unit this season. What? So it's ok in this case because it benefits you in some capacity? Let's punish the kid for doing exactly what he was supposed to do...Hypocrite From what I've heard, this will be the last year that grad transfers will be given immediate eligibility. I believe it's supposed to come up for a vote in early 2016 and the expectation is that they will also have to sit a year. The NCAA will give kids in this situation a sixth year to finish their eligibility instead of the usual five.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 7, 2015 21:51:45 GMT -5
That's kind of a win for the kids too. I imagine the majority of grad transfers aren't going pro at any level so they're getting an extra year of school for free.
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Post by mookie on Jul 8, 2015 6:04:59 GMT -5
That's kind of a win for the kids too. I imagine the majority of grad transfers aren't going pro at any level so they're getting an extra year of school for free. Not sure I agree with that. I mean, if a kid is staying essentially 6 years in college then he really doesn't have a future in basketball AND what is the real incentive for staying? Unless they're able to finish their MBA during that time. Maybe in schools such as Drexel with accelerated MBA programs but those need to be started as freshmen, correct??
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Post by coachd on Jul 8, 2015 7:42:45 GMT -5
From what I've heard, this will be the last year that grad transfers will be given immediate eligibility. I believe it's supposed to come up for a vote in early 2016 and the expectation is that they will also have to sit a year. The NCAA will give kids in this situation a sixth year to finish their eligibility instead of the usual five. kjmac, that is good. Some rules they come up with hurt the schools and the kids.
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Post by MisterD on Jul 8, 2015 9:41:27 GMT -5
Not sure I agree with that. I mean, if a kid is staying essentially 6 years in college then he really doesn't have a future in basketball AND what is the real incentive for staying? Unless they're able to finish their MBA during that time. Maybe in schools such as Drexel with accelerated MBA programs but those need to be started as freshmen, correct?? 2 free years of MBA better than 1 free year of MBA?
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 8, 2015 10:33:46 GMT -5
Any chance Khalid's available scholarship can / will be used by G in the short term on a 5th year grad student transfer ( with another year of eligibility and who can play immediately ) to bolster the team just for the upcoming 2015 - 16 season ?
Who are some of the announced 5th year transfers who still remain uncommitted at this point ?
What position do we need to fill most in the short term just for this upcoming season ?
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jul 8, 2015 10:44:00 GMT -5
what's the back story to all this? Maybe the back story is that both Shuler and Stukes performed better in practice than KL, and he saw the writing on the wall? Rothstein had good things to say about both of them. Also, in the 4 games oversees, no mention of anything regarding KL's performance, that I can recall. I understand the desire for more PT, but its not like he's projected to be a pro prospect. In any event, I'm disappointed in the decision, and I wish him well. Not saying that you're wrong, it makes sense...however, I was alluding to Explorerman stating that this has been in the works for a while now, and if there's a back story, now that Lewis is gone, just post it.
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Post by coachd on Jul 8, 2015 11:48:59 GMT -5
Any chance Khalid's available scholarship can / will be used by G in the short term on a 5th year grad student transfer ( with another year of eligibility and who can play immediately ) to bolster the team just for the upcoming 2015 - 16 season ? Who are some of the announced 5th year transfers who still remain uncommitted at this point ? What position do we need to fill most in the short term just for this upcoming season ? Please let us know what your Internet search finds.
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Post by coachd on Jul 8, 2015 11:51:43 GMT -5
Not sure I agree with that. I mean, if a kid is staying essentially 6 years in college then he really doesn't have a future in basketball AND what is the real incentive for staying? Unless they're able to finish their MBA during that time. Maybe in schools such as Drexel with accelerated MBA programs but those need to be started as freshmen, correct?? 2 free years of MBA better than 1 free year of MBA? No, everyone stays where they are. The NCAA would prolly make the transfer pay for room and board and education for that additional year to strongly discourage this... it was a bad rule to begin with.
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Post by gymrat67 on Jul 8, 2015 12:09:14 GMT -5
Any chance Khalid's available scholarship can / will be used by G in the short term on a 5th year grad student transfer ( with another year of eligibility and who can play immediately ) to bolster the team just for the upcoming 2015 - 16 season ? Who are some of the announced 5th year transfers who still remain uncommitted at this point ? What position do we need to fill most in the short term just for this upcoming season ? Per Jeff Goodman's Blog on ESPN.com ( Updated as of 6/30/15 ) Still available ( uncommitted ) 5th year transfers include the following : Kevin Gray ... 6'-7" PF ... Northern Illinois Eric Kutenda ... 6'-9" F ... Notre Dame Kenyatta Smith ... 6'-9" C ... Harvard
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Post by calsufan on Jul 8, 2015 12:43:40 GMT -5
Any chance Khalid's available scholarship can / will be used by G in the short term on a 5th year grad student transfer ( with another year of eligibility and who can play immediately ) to bolster the team just for the upcoming 2015 - 16 season ? Who are some of the announced 5th year transfers who still remain uncommitted at this point ? What position do we need to fill most in the short term just for this upcoming season ? Per Jeff Goodman's Blog on ESPN.com ( Updated as of 6/30/15 ) Still available ( uncommitted ) 5th year transfers include the following : Kevin Gray ... 6'-7" PF ... Northern Illinois Eric Kutenda ... 6'-9" F ... Notre Dame Kenyatta Smith ... 6'-9" C ... Harvard I believe the proper spelling for Eric's last name is actually Katenda. And yes, he could have been.
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Post by Fastchuck on Jul 8, 2015 12:53:28 GMT -5
I seem to remember someone saying that O.J. Lewis was getting a scholarship for his senior year. If that is the case then Kahlid's spot goes to Henry and there is no scholarship to give to another transfer, grad or otherwise. May explain the coincidental timing of the announcements of Henry's commitment and Lewis' transfer.
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Post by La Salle 08 on Jul 8, 2015 14:31:14 GMT -5
Rokas just retweeted and favorited a tweet saying he signed his release papers to leave La Salle and play in Lithuania.
Wtf
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Post by calsufan on Jul 8, 2015 14:38:30 GMT -5
I seem to remember someone saying that O.J. Lewis was getting a scholarship for his senior year. If that is the case then Kahlid's spot goes to Henry and there is no scholarship to give to another transfer, grad or otherwise. May explain the coincidental timing of the announcements of Henry's commitment and Lewis' transfer. Great point Fastchuck. Henry would bring us up to the limit of 13 scholarships. Now I'm wondering if Lewis was gently nudged out the door or if he left of his own volition? I hope it was the latter.
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Post by calsufan on Jul 8, 2015 14:40:28 GMT -5
Rokas just retweeted and favorited a tweet saying he signed his release papers to leave La Salle and play in Lithuania. Wtf Excuse my French, but this is a crazy ass offseason for La Salle. I'm typing up a reply to Fastchuck about Henry pushing us to the limit of 13 schollies and BAM, Rokas is leaving???
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Post by coachd on Jul 8, 2015 14:43:13 GMT -5
Weirdest day possibly ever... United Airlines, WSJ and NYSE computers all have glitches and now this!
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Post by luhoopsfan on Jul 8, 2015 14:48:11 GMT -5
WTF is happening here. I sort of get the sense that there may be something more on the horizon.
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