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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 5, 2013 23:15:14 GMT -5
Also seems surprising that NO ONE from any media outlet has even commented on this. Coming off a week where after a few hours, you could talk yourself into the Paul Walker death was a hoax, I don't mean to make light of this but I'm starting to think this is just an overreaction to seeing him in a boot. That boot means nothing because it could be a wide range of reasons he'd have it on Bingo. The girl I mentioned earlier was very very concerned with making sure she was given credit for breaking the news first. Starting to think she jumped the gun. I F****** hope so!! I don't expect to beat Nova next weekend they are playing too well but I expect us to win the rest of our non conference schedule. Hopefully it is something minor and an MRI is used to exam a bone in the foot.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 5, 2013 23:23:21 GMT -5
Bingo. The girl I mentioned earlier was very very concerned with making sure she was given credit for breaking the news first. Starting to think she jumped the gun. I F****** hope so!! Yeah I don't twitter often, but when I do, it's because I'm absolutely panicked. Investigation skills. If I was concerned enough, I think I could figure out the origin of the earth via twitter sometimes.
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Post by broderickpresident on Dec 5, 2013 23:28:26 GMT -5
I believe TD was dealing with heel splints for awhile after last season. Not sure if this is related...
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 6, 2013 6:17:17 GMT -5
I summon Joe Fedorowicz to this thread. Maybe if we say his name three times he'll appear. I worked all night. I'll get the skinny today.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 6:35:44 GMT -5
I summon Joe Fedorowicz to this thread. Maybe if we say his name three times he'll appear. I worked all night. I'll get the skinny today. It worked!
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 6, 2013 7:06:36 GMT -5
Sad part is he has played too many games to get a redshirt. He is still eligible for a medical redshirt. As long as he plays in less than 30% of the total games and doesn't play after the mid-point of the season, he can get the redshirt. The rule used to be 20% but they increased it 3-4 years ago. Got it. Didn't realize that changed. Good news he can get it if needed.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 6, 2013 8:56:14 GMT -5
If I'm Jerrell, I transfer out after this season. Top senior on the team is like 50/50 to have some serious medical issue pop up here.
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Post by ltrain38 on Dec 6, 2013 9:17:02 GMT -5
Who exactly is our source for this? I saw something on twitter but I have no idea who reported it.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 9:37:04 GMT -5
We probably will know within next 24 hours how serious Tyreek's injury is. If he is told this is a long term recovery he could possibly elect to red shirt if he wants to play another season. I hope he doesn't rush back and risk additional injury. My guess is this has been bothering him for sometime based on viewing him on court and it may have been just minor initially which has grown into a major problem. I think many of us feel we have bad luck but we have had back to back good and very good seasons and although we all believed this was most likely going to be another good to very good season things moving forward look very positive. If Tyreek injury is serious and he does return next season that team appears to be loaded at every position from guards, wing men and bigs. We will hope that his injury is less than has been discussed and he is back by the new year.
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 6, 2013 10:11:03 GMT -5
I work 3 blocks from the Garden. Will go out on my lunch break and stand in front of the building and maybe I'll see them coming in or out from some mind if walkthrough and see if I get some kind of visual confirmation.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 10:35:33 GMT -5
I work 3 blocks from the Garden. Will go out on my lunch break and stand in front of the building and maybe I'll see them coming in or out from some mind if walkthrough and see if I get some kind of visual confirmation. Can't tell if serious or totally making fun of us
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Post by 23won on Dec 6, 2013 11:11:46 GMT -5
If this is confirmed, I would
Medical Redshirt TD
Run Lewis at the point for the next 4 games
Run Amar in practice 33% with the first team until 12/19. If he can back up Lewis effectively, I'd play him for the rest of this year. Whoever emerges as the better PG over time plays more.
Total meritocracy system - let the chips fall where they may.
No one will condemn G if his first team A10 player goes down. Develop what you have and come back with a vengence this year and next.
If TD played next year, we would be sick! 5 high quality guards (TD, Price, Roberts, Khalid, Amar), 2 senior Bigs with double double po on any night and 2 experienced senior glue guys in DJ and Rohan. Shuler could R/S. If G could get a quality 3 and/or Washington proves he can play, we would be 10 deep on a legit basis!
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Post by MisterD on Dec 6, 2013 11:31:26 GMT -5
You know, I thought about the redshirt almost immediately but I forgot about the transfers we have coming in. You're right, that could be an insane lineup, but we'd be essentially punting 2013-14 8 games in. Man ...
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 11:37:03 GMT -5
You know, I thought about the redshirt almost immediately but I forgot about the transfers we have coming in. You're right, that could be an insane lineup, but we'd be essentially punting 2013-14 8 games in. Man ... As soon as I crunched the numbers and saw he's still under 30%, I couldn't help but wonder. Not sure if I'm ready to toss this year aside, not sure G would ever for that, but having him back would be wild. Only fear would be minutes, worried we'd see a transfer in Schuler or something.
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Post by coachd on Dec 6, 2013 11:39:52 GMT -5
If TD is going to miss any significant time then Stukes has to play this year. You can't tank the season (unlike the NBA you don't get a better pick)... we must maintain a certain level of play for future recruiting. You can't "save" guys if they are needed due to injury.
Medical redshirts are not guaranteed but I think they would grant it for TD especially if it is an injury that requires a significant amount of rest and there is little chance he could play this year.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 11:47:46 GMT -5
Can anyone zoom in the Go Explorers Instagram photo? There's players by the bench, and maybe we can get a look, but my potato phone won't let me.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 11:51:22 GMT -5
There is no need to play Amar this season with Lewis available to play the point bacause no way Amar is better than Lewis at this stage. As far as J.Schuler possibly transferring that seems ridculous in the fact that he would still see a minimum of ten minutes per game even if Tyreek does go with red shirt and maybe even more because who is to say he is not better than A.Stukes next season. No matter where Stukes and Schuler play when you are a freshman it is generally a learning experience and they both will see big minutes from their soph seasons on and maybe next year if Duren injury turns out to be not that serious.
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 6, 2013 12:22:45 GMT -5
I am standing right outside the Garden. I found the stouts bus with nj plates. Literally going to stand here and see if the players come out and I can get a look at Duren, see if he's on crutches or in a boot.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 6, 2013 12:32:27 GMT -5
If this is confirmed, I would Medical Redshirt TD Run Lewis at the point for the next 4 games Run Amar in practice 33% with the first team until 12/19. If he can back up Lewis effectively, I'd play him for the rest of this year. Whoever emerges as the better PG over time plays more. Total meritocracy system - let the chips fall where they may. No one will condemn G if his first team A10 player goes down. Develop what you have and come back with a vengence this year and next. Interesting, I like how you are suggesting that the decision to activate Amar be based upon whether Amar can significantly contribute. For me this is a no brainer---- would be very important, or forget it. I remember the clamor among some last year when Zack went down, that Davis's red shirt should be removed...ugh!
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 6, 2013 12:48:10 GMT -5
In my opinion, there is so much time left to play this season, and the risk that the recovery for TD's injury will linger to mid-February is too high that you need to get as many guys active on the roster as possible. This type of injury takes a long, long time to fully heal and if TD wants to get paid to play, it would probably behoove him to demonstrate his health on the college level first.
Duren, Stukes, Lewis, Shuler as your "traditional" guards Price, Robert, Petersen as your "tweener" type guards Zack, Wright, Washington, Davis as your front court?
Sounds like a heck of a roster if you ask me. Sure, I'm crushed at the though of this being a .500 season in a best-case scenario, but if the payoff is something great, it just might be worth it.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 12:56:52 GMT -5
I am standing right outside the Garden. I found the stouts bus with nj plates. Literally going to stand here and see if the players come out and I can get a look at Duren, see if he's on crutches or in a boot. You're the hero we need, not the one we deserve. And I feel like such a slouch for even considering selling this year for next season. Good thing the picture will get more clear in the coming days.
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 6, 2013 13:04:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately I have no news. Gave it a good 20 minutes but based on where the bus was I think it was gonna pull up to get them anyway. Will post a picture later to prove tha I did at least go out there for a while, even though it didn't held anything.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 13:05:59 GMT -5
You get a gold star in my book, Neumann.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Dec 6, 2013 13:10:36 GMT -5
The idea of Duren, Roberts, Price, Petersen and Wright on the floor together actually makes me really excited
The combinations are really overwhelming.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 13:14:33 GMT -5
I don't think anyone wants to selloff the season but you have to do the correct thing and that is very simple. If T.Duren can't play until mid to late Feb. he is far better off red shirting if he would prefer to come back next season. No way do you rush him back (which I am sure G wouldn't do) and risk him getting hurt again. If Tyreek has no interest in coming back next season then he will play whenever he is healthy.
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Post by calidelphia on Dec 6, 2013 13:18:41 GMT -5
I now understand why Jameer was training our players and not Hawks players like lagston galloway. He obviously was just trying wear TD down and not give him time for his foot to get back to 100% over the summer. this was definitely an inside job. (tongue in cheek, I don't actually think that)
That being said, there is absolutely nothing that can be done for the type of injury our info says he's dealing with. Plantar fascia is a terribly finicky injury that can reoccur at any time and will feel completely fine until the next twinge or tweak takes you off your feet again. It can occur as a tear in the arch of the foot or in the heal and is worse from an athletic point of view then a broken bone. This honestly does explain so much to me regarding the shooting, driving and fast breaks where he didn't look comfortable. Cases of a ruptured tendon will require surgery and we should find out soon since it would be discovered in an MRI. I hope that he takes a RS if there is a verifiable PF injury because this injury can really linger even if surgery isn't needed. See Noah, Gasol, Pujols, Antonio Gates 2010-2013.
As far as replacing TD, that simply isn't possible. I would expect Sam Mills to step up to PG for the rest of this season as he did against providence. Lewis may as well, but I don't think he understands G's system as well as a 4th year senior and he has had only 3 assists on 5 games this season. That being said we can expect a much more defensive lineup that is bigger and applies more shut down pressure. Please keep Stukes as a red shirt and have him as a backup to TD next year in case a recovery doesn't go as well as we all expect.
I also think that G had seen this coming from the beginning of the season as he talked about injuries being a huge factor in whether or not they would be able to match last season's results. Zack was 9 months over his injury, mills had a minor sprain to his ankle, Khalid's hand never seemed to be much of an issue and all were seemingly healthy as of week 3-4. All of those players are important but not the key to a tournament run in most opinions. That tells me he may have been aware of something bigger with one of the players that the offense runs through (TD / TG / JW) and it may have come to a head with this news. This also explains why he may have been playing with the lineup so much and playing other players at guard. Looking to see if there was a good mix as a contingency plan to keep stukes on RS if TD does have to take time off.
Any opinion's on Sam's ability to take on PG? he's had 20 assists but 14 turnovers on the season including 1-5 in the last 2 games.
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Post by durenduren on Dec 6, 2013 13:27:15 GMT -5
Question. When it comes to a "hardship waiver" by of medical reasons, can you redshirt him if he is actually healthy at a certain point, or is it one of those things where it's what you tell the NCAA?
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Post by MisterD on Dec 6, 2013 13:29:42 GMT -5
Just say you're calling from Georgetown.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 13:38:21 GMT -5
Georgetown can do whatever they want because higher tier teams are exempt from following the rules just like the very wealthy. We are a country of many slimballs and I don't mean that stuff that washed ashore in the gulf.
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Post by lwc4591 on Dec 6, 2013 13:40:24 GMT -5
What sounds better and more factual, House of Congress or Bunch of Slimballs.
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