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Nov 2, 2013 10:23:33 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 2, 2013 10:23:33 GMT -5
Son of a bitch... Another "what if" year for La Salle
Damn - hopefully Sam gets better quickly
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Post by expbrady03 on Nov 2, 2013 10:31:26 GMT -5
Hopefully the sprain isn't too bad. Sam has another full week to stay completely off it and continue to heal. I think that unless it appears Sam will miss significant time, G will keep the redshirt on Stukes. I'm not ready to worry about this one yet.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 2, 2013 10:31:43 GMT -5
I was told about the Sam injury earlier this week, but wasn't sure if it was sprain, or just a rolled ankle. I really, really hope they can get through without using Stukes, but I guess we'll see. If he's going to play significant minutes off the bench the first month of the season, then I think it's probably worth it to play him. I will admit that right now, I'm much more concerned with getting back to the tournament this year, than how losing Stukes will affect the team in 2017-2018.
As always with injuries, let's wait and see.
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Nov 2, 2013 10:32:35 GMT -5
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Post by durenduren on Nov 2, 2013 10:32:35 GMT -5
... God dammit.
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Nov 2, 2013 10:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 2, 2013 10:57:11 GMT -5
I will say I saw Sam dressed up to go out on Halloween so it hopefully is getting better
Sam and Khalid would allow us to keep a lock down perimeter defender on the floor at all times. This is pretty big
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 11:09:31 GMT -5
Another "what if" year for La Salle It's not like these guys have season-ending injuries. Take a deep breath and relax.
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Nov 2, 2013 11:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 2, 2013 11:13:38 GMT -5
Another "what if" year for La Salle It's not like these guys have season-ending injuries. Take a deep breath and relax. I know, but it's so easy to be gun-shy with this program still. Sometimes I feel like a rescued dog that was beaten by its owner and is afraid of everything
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Post by ck on Nov 2, 2013 11:24:27 GMT -5
It's a bit early to panic. If he's back by January I'd say still redshirt Stukes. If it turns out to be a serious injury why not have Mills not play this year and be back 2014-2015? G seems high on Stukes so maybe he could contribute significantly this year if needed.
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Post by broderickpresident on Nov 2, 2013 11:38:33 GMT -5
Damn...we need all hands on deck to beat Manhattan. Losing Sam really hurts the offensive spacing (not to mention the defense). Not too many players with the ability to play 35 minutes of hard-nosed D like him.
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Post by coqui900 on Nov 2, 2013 12:32:16 GMT -5
On the bright side, kudos for G for having a roster deep enough to have this flexibility if we need it. I'd rather have Stukes redshirt but having that safety blanket is a really good thing.
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Post by lwc4591 on Nov 2, 2013 12:36:08 GMT -5
Come on a sprained ankle two weeks before the season begins is not a big deal unless you want to make it a big deal. Lewis gets cast off this week so he should at the most miss two or three games. Why such panic is beyond me.
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Post by stlexplorer on Nov 2, 2013 12:39:03 GMT -5
The injuries are stuff the guys can get over but G's comments are what worry me. He's obviously very concerned. The one positive is we can go more traditional with Wright and Zack and take some pressure off the guards. Get well Sam and Khalid. I'm in the same boat as Neumann, this is the ultimate go for it year screw future eligibility.
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Post by broderickpresident on Nov 2, 2013 13:19:23 GMT -5
Come on a sprained ankle two weeks before the season begins is not a big deal unless you want to make it a big deal. Lewis gets cast off this week so he should at the most miss two or three games. Why such panic is beyond me. "Ankle sprain" can mean a lot of things. There's 3 grades with the worst of them sometimes being worse than fractures. I wouldn't be overly concerned aside from the fact that Stukes is now being considered getting used, which implies to me that the injury might be kinda bad. I feel like we've often used words like "sprain" as cover for something worse in the past as well.
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Post by expbrady03 on Nov 2, 2013 16:33:21 GMT -5
my untrained observation (lacking any credibility whatsoever) was that Sam did not limp coming out of the tunnel pregame or at the half. Maybe we are all overreacting.
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Post by stlexplorer on Nov 3, 2013 2:38:58 GMT -5
my untrained observation (lacking any credibility whatsoever) was that Sam did not limp coming out of the tunnel pregame or at the half. Maybe we are all overreacting. I hope he heals quick because I don't know if I can do it again. Last postseason I caught myself analyzing every movement that Zack made and trying to analyze how it related to his availability. Pretty sure we had a thread analyzing a frame by frame breakdown of Zack celebrating getting in the tournament and trying to figure out how healthy he was.
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Post by lwc4591 on Nov 3, 2013 9:36:48 GMT -5
I don't see any chance of Lewis or Mills missing anymore than the first four games if that. Had a broken arm and it did take almost three months to get back to full strength (after cast removal) but I am not a 21 year old kid and that is worse than a broken bone in your hand. I am not a doctor but I would think a month after cast removal K.Lewis would be fine. As far as S.Mills unless we are not being told the true extent of his injury (which of course is very possible) I expect that he may possibly be back at practice by mid to late this week particularly based on sightings of Sam walking around just fine with no boot or crutches. Worse case scenario probably would be Khalid missing four games and Sam two. I believe A.Stukes will be red shirted this season with Dunn's showing yesterday.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 3, 2013 10:19:56 GMT -5
I think some of you are overreacting. Mills and Khalid will be back at it soon. Winning against Manhattan will be key without those guys and I would think they be back in time for the Penn State game if not sooner. I think G just being really cautious with Mills for all we know he could be back for Manhattan depending how serious his ankle sprain is. Not that I am any expert but it doesn't look that serious I think G just wants everyone 100% before he brings them back. Why have him play in an exhibition game and risk injury even if its almost fine. Khalid gets his cast off tuesday depending if it's healed he could be back soon as well. His strength in his arm will come back in time.
Can't wait for saturday!
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Nov 3, 2013 11:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 3, 2013 11:02:13 GMT -5
I agree with the overreaction.
Both looked like they would be back soon. Injuries happen. In fact both GW and Rhody but have injuries to key players. GW just lost Garino for a month.
Relax. It will work out fine for us.
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Nov 3, 2013 12:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Nov 3, 2013 12:20:31 GMT -5
We Need To get back to the NCAA tourny THIS year. If there is any doubt whatsoever then play Stukes NOW! This is a critical year in establishing our program. There is a Cinderella every year but Gonzaga and Butler turned their runs into program changers. Even if we need him to help us win only one game then play him. With these ankle injuries you never come back at 100% and u r one cut from being back to square one. Then are you going to activate Stukes mid year? That wouldn't be fair to him. PLAY TO WIN NOW!
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Nov 3, 2013 12:33:25 GMT -5
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Post by durenduren on Nov 3, 2013 12:33:25 GMT -5
While I agree with the sentiment that a return to the tourney is an absolute must, I'm not confident Stukes is your answer to the injuries after watching him yesterday. He seemed overwhelmed, hasty, and uncalculated - chalk that up to freshman jitters, nerves, or a bad game - I just think he'd greatly benefit from red shirting. He also fouled out in just 22 minutes of play against an IUP team that might prove to be one of the least physical squads we'll see all year. You can see the kid has some real talent, and he oozes that swagger, but I think he could be an absolute machine with a year under his belt.
Hopefully all of this is a non-issue, and will sort itself out.
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Nov 3, 2013 12:51:36 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 3, 2013 12:51:36 GMT -5
Stukes really does need the redshirt year.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 3, 2013 12:59:44 GMT -5
Stukes really does need the redshirt year. Exactly, I am not trying to hate on the guy but he NEEDS to redshirt. Give Taylor Dunn the minutes and see what happens. Even though he been drowned out over the years maybe he will finally contribute. He clearly has a new motivation to compete and looked much improved. Practicing for 3+ years with the team that has been in place has to have an affect over the years. Why not go with your best hand over the risk.
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Nov 3, 2013 13:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by lasalle89 on Nov 3, 2013 13:41:23 GMT -5
I did not see Stukes play. Sounds as if Dunn made believers out of everyone. If Dunn is more then capable then use him. My point was I don't care who is redshirting...we must put the best team together for THIS YEAR. If we get back to the tourny and make another run the quality of our recruits will skyrocket, more sponsors, more tourny money, more donations, new facility, and the list goes on. This year is MONUMENTAL to our program. As Al Davis said.. JUST WIN BABY...
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Post by durenduren on Nov 3, 2013 13:57:45 GMT -5
I did not see Stukes play. Sounds as if Dunn made believers out of everyone. Joe said it best, Dunn might just be a one trick pony. If his shot isn't dropping from outside, that's it. I'll take Mills and Lewis for 200, please. Just hope it works out that way.
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Post by coqui900 on Nov 3, 2013 14:06:36 GMT -5
The thing I like about Dunn is that he's never out-of-position. He's in the right place on offense. He gets open looks and doesn't try and drive and finish. He's also always in the right spot of defense. I don't think he has the athletic ability to guard someone decent in a one-on-one clear-out but in terms of team defense, he's active and knows how to switch.
I have faith in him being able to cover for a few games. Sam's clearly a better player. I assume Lewis is, too. But if he can hold the fort for a bit until those guys get back, then we'll be in good shape.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 3, 2013 14:13:45 GMT -5
Yeah I'll give him all of what you said. He drove to the hoop once yesterday and had a great +1, but I couldn't imagine seeing that with any regularity. I would love to see him play himself into more time, the guys seem to really rally around Taylor.
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Nov 4, 2013 8:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 8:11:15 GMT -5
Every year there is talk about a mid season activation to save the day.
To me, a redshirt is a redshirt. Someone point me to the rule which states that a redshirt may suit up in February. I just don't see it happening.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 4, 2013 8:57:19 GMT -5
You're looking at it backwards. There's no such thing as a redshirt until the season is over and someone has met the qualifications.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 4, 2013 9:44:21 GMT -5
The thing I like about Dunn is that he's never out-of-position. He's in the right place on offense. He gets open looks and doesn't try and drive and finish. He's also always in the right spot of defense. I don't think he has the athletic ability to guard someone decent in a one-on-one clear-out but in terms of team defense, he's active and knows how to switch. I have faith in him being able to cover for a few games. Sam's clearly a better player. I assume Lewis is, too. But if he can hold the fort for a bit until those guys get back, then we'll be in good shape. You have summed it up for me. From the games I watched last season this is exactly what I saw. We are lucky, he is a more than adequate backup. I am intriqued however by the possibility that his ability to launch from the outside that he showed yesterday could be a possible valuable additional O weapon. Of course this could have just been a guy who had the hot hand. But if he is a bonafide "3 point shooter", this is why guys like Cole Stefan are recruited. I wonder whether he has shown this shooting ability in practice?
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