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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 1, 2023 19:53:49 GMT -5
It's a waste. See what it did for SJU. Expect the same. You either build a state of the art multi use facility (minimum 5k) or invest in recruiting students, especially males. The improvements aren't going to move the needle. 3k is not even making the Indiana HS Top 50, it's a HS auditorium. And wait to you see where your ticket prices go. no one here cares what you think. neither do your buddies on the hawk board. and i thought your hawks are on the verge of dominating the a10 despite the facility. you just don't want la salle to have something better. go away you angry old man. |
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Post by crayzeeguy on Oct 2, 2023 10:56:05 GMT -5
We almost got Kobe and Rip Hamilton with "The Gola"… I am sure we could almost get the Bronny's and Cade Cunningham's with "The Glaze"
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Post by 1863 on Oct 2, 2023 12:22:31 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's an actual name or just a screen name. |
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Oct 2, 2023 13:57:58 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's an actual name or just a screen name. He's the real Joe Fedorowicz. |
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Post by wistergym on Oct 2, 2023 16:18:59 GMT -5
Reality Check: Last Game 3/9/24; Construction begins.
eight months later........11/8/24 Construction complete. Season Opener at home.
Does anyone actually think this doable??
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 2, 2023 16:36:16 GMT -5
Reality Check: Last Game 3/9/24; Construction begins. eight months later........11/8/24 Construction complete. Season Opener at home.
Does anyone actually think this doable?? As long as we don't have an NIT home game in March |
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Post by explorerman on Oct 2, 2023 17:10:48 GMT -5
Reality Check: Last Game 3/9/24; Construction begins. eight months later........11/8/24 Construction complete. Season Opener at home.
Does anyone actually think this doable?? Yes it can |
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Post by explorer88 on Oct 2, 2023 18:26:41 GMT -5
Nothing is being done to the structure of the building. They are only installing seating and a scoreboard and the Glaser suite didn’t look like it was that elaborate from the renderings so it should be enough time.
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Post by 23won on Oct 3, 2023 4:17:15 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's an actual name or just a screen name. He's the real Joe Fedorowicz. The Real Slim Fedy |
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Post by nyalum on Oct 3, 2023 9:07:09 GMT -5
If there isn't a suite for Taylor Swift, I'll never go.  |
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Post by calsufan on Oct 3, 2023 11:49:08 GMT -5
He's the real Joe Fedorowicz. The Real Slim Fedy Great song |
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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on Oct 3, 2023 13:42:37 GMT -5
nothing they can do about the capacity unless they start taking down walls which would add millions to the cost. they're trying their best to get as close as possible to the current 3,400 actual capacity. if i remember correctly, the league told a number of schools to start using real capacity numbers around 10 years ago. st joe's (pa) inflated theirs even worse and did it again after their renovation. no way hagan holds anywhere near 4,200 people. it's 3,800 max. i feel confident the renovated arena will hold more than the 3,000 that ashwin mentioned during the q&a session. not sure what you mean about it being gola in 2003. this will be significantly better than gola ever was. it never held 4,000 people. that was a bogus number and everyone knew it. As one of the best posters on here, I hear what you're saying. However, I am OK with blowing out the walls and making this thing right, to where we aren't talking about doing this thing again in 10 years. My read was that this work certainly wouldn't preclude us from eventually expanding. The designs even look to me like there's another version already designed with a proper concourse and additional seating/boxes along the rim. I'm hopeful there is demand for an expansion one day! I think the size is right and we'll probably be complaining next year that there aren't enough students behind the basket (not because it's full and we should have built it wider, but because it's empty). |
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Post by 1863 on Oct 3, 2023 21:19:43 GMT -5
I don't know whether it's an actual name or just a screen name. He's the real Joe Fedorowicz. OK, thank you. I can't say that I know anyone here, except for brief conversation with "GlitterBro #2." I'd be willing to bet that he doesn't sign his checks as "Mr. GlitterBro #2." But ya never know.   |
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 4, 2023 10:00:26 GMT -5
Only to the IRS
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 5, 2023 12:50:21 GMT -5
Anyone want to speculate on how much these renovations will drive up ticket prices in 2024?
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Post by calsufan on Oct 5, 2023 13:17:57 GMT -5
Anyone want to speculate on how much these renovations will drive up ticket prices in 2024? The only thing I know for sure is that the seats under the basket will be more expensive than before. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 6, 2023 9:24:07 GMT -5
Really only concerned with the one rendering with the white ceiling. That looks terrible and I hope it is not a misrepresentation of what it will look like. The rest looked fine for me. I hope the seating is steeper rather than backing up further away from the court. Steeper stands make it look so much better.I agree with Joe about the Glaser Suite. That area could be designed better. Maybe they can make the finished product better than the drawing. Pluses .... Baskets are on the floor versus hanging from the ceiling. They realized they need to substantially upgrade the gameday experience. I wish they could give more detail on those plans but it appears some upgrades are coming. Ash referred to it as the bells and whistles which is correct. Overall it is pretty much as I expected. B+ for me with a hit coming from the white ceiling picture. the renderings with the white ceiling were only in the video announcement. it appears they were trying to give everyone a 3d/virtual reality look at the place. if you look at the arena renovation site, those renderings are not included so i think it's safe to say it will look like these pictures. goexplorers.com/images/2023/9/28/Final_Version.pnggoexplorers.com/images/2023/9/26/Picture2.jpggoexplorers.com/images/2023/9/28/Rendering_Final_2.pngi agree about the seating. i hope they at least make the sideline seats steeper. it will not only look better, but it should allow them to add additional capacity on the sidelines. i hope someone at la salle is looking at this.
i'm also not a fan of the layout of the glaser suite. looks like some wasted space there. and i have the same questions as joe regarding this. getting out of gola now is a nightmare. i hope there will be multiple exits and some type of concourse underneath the stands. might as well do it right. all in all, i'm happy with what they've done. with a few tweeks here and there, this place will be really nice. saw this tweet from a nba camp being held at mcneese state's new arena. as mentioned by 88 and myself, i hope la salle is looking at using steeper seating, especially on the sidelines, as that could add some much needed additional capacity. i know people in the athletic department visit this board so hopefully they can get some eyes on this and get it done. |
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Post by explorer88 on Oct 6, 2023 9:30:57 GMT -5
That looks awesome. Steeper stands really do make it much more intimidating and closes everything in.
I spoke to Kale Beers about 10 years ago about this topic and we both were saying Rutgers gym had the steepest stands we had seen at a college basketball venue and it looked so much better and intimidating inside the arena and at the time Kale had a bigger voice inside the department and he was going to make sure that point was addressed if a renovation of Gola took place.
I really hope La Salle takes that into consideration.
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Post by calsufan on Oct 6, 2023 11:57:53 GMT -5
I'll be the wet blanket as far as what their plans are. If they're this close (March '24 is close) to starting construction they probably have their architectural plans ready to go. All of that has to be submitted for the proper permits, they have to order the materials etc. I would think that changes now would be pretty damn near impossible.
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Post by explorer88 on Oct 6, 2023 13:34:31 GMT -5
I'll be the wet blanket as far as what their plans are. If they're this close (March '24 is close) to starting construction they probably have their architectural plans ready to go. All of that has to be submitted for the proper permits, they have to order the materials etc. I would think that changes now would be pretty damn near impossible. You very well could be right and this is done. I would think the stands and how it is affixed to the building is the one thing that can be possibly changed. Attaching the seating as high it can go and fabricating the seating(stands and seats) are probably the last things to be worked on and would think these materials are not ordered. In the end this is a hope for me and others who think this look would serve the aesthetics better. Nothing more at this point. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 6, 2023 13:52:54 GMT -5
as that could add some much needed additional capacity. But it isn't much needed, right? The building will be 2/3 empty most nights this year. |
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Post by MisterD on Oct 6, 2023 14:18:27 GMT -5
That's because most nights this year there won't be games!!!
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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 7, 2023 13:32:43 GMT -5
as that could add some much needed additional capacity. But it isn't much needed, right? The building will be 2/3 empty most nights this year. first off, last year the team averaged just under 1,500 per game, so it was not 2/3 empty. but i'm a big picture guy joe. my hope (and the program's hope) is that the renovated arena will allow la salle to recruit better and win more games which should hopefully translate to bigger crowds. so i would like glaser arena to get as close to that 3,400 current capacity as possible. i remember when la salle averaged 6k per game during the lionel years. it's not realistic to expect that, but shooting for 3,400 capacity sell outs is a goal the program should be shooting for, don't you think? just curious, but how many games do you make each year? not sure where you live but if you're within driving distance, hopefully you're a season ticket holder or will consider it going forward. they've finally come through with the facility improvement we've been begging for. the school and program needs and deserves everyone's support because of that. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 7, 2023 14:42:53 GMT -5
Capacity is going down to 3000. And that’s ok because despite what your number was, that was tickets sold not butts in seats. And wanting to increase capacity for the dream of being even regionally relevant again should be like 34th in the list of reasons to renovate. If you could go down to 2500 and make it even nicer, I’d do that.
If 3000 becomes an issue, La Salle should deal with that problem then. Just my beliefs. Building a stadium with 2000 empty seats is silly.
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Post by Fastchuck on Oct 8, 2023 12:14:56 GMT -5
Really only concerned with the one rendering with the white ceiling. That looks terrible and I hope it is not a representation of what it will look like. The rest looked fine for me. I hope the seating is steeper rather than backing up further away from the court. Steeper stands make it look so much better. Can't make the stands too steep or most of the old guys I sit with will be unable make it past the first row. I would hope for more "chair back" seats. I am guessing that much of the current student section remains intact and that most of the stands will fold up as they do now to create floor space for practice and other events. |
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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 8, 2023 12:15:13 GMT -5
Capacity is going down to 3000. And that’s ok because despite what your number was, that was tickets sold not butts in seats. And wanting to increase capacity for the dream of being even regionally relevant again should be like 34th in the list of reasons to renovate. If you could go down to 2500 and make it even nicer, I’d do that. If 3000 becomes an issue, La Salle should deal with that problem then. Just my beliefs. Building a stadium with 2000 empty seats is silly. final capacity number is still not determined yet. 3k is the lowball number. told by someone who would know that they want to add onto that if possible. glad you're not the ad. 2,500 would be silly. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 8, 2023 13:55:35 GMT -5
There was an important caveat there you left out. If the trade off was amenities for 500 less seats, you’d be stupid not to take it. Bigger in this case, not better in my opinion.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Oct 9, 2023 9:21:58 GMT -5
There was an important caveat there you left out. If the trade off was amenities for 500 less seats, you’d be stupid not to take it. Bigger in this case, not better in my opinion. that "caveat" only exists in your mind. la salle is not spending $18m-$20m on a renovation to lose almost 1k in capacity. the only person talking 2500 seats is you. it's going to be 3k at minimum based on what the ad said at the presentation. that's the reality of the situation. luckily, your opinion has no impact on the project. p.s. if you want your opinion to have an impact, send them a 7 figure check. |
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Oct 9, 2023 9:40:20 GMT -5
Good talk
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Oct 9, 2023 14:29:15 GMT -5
I thought they said 2800-3200 during the announcement, but that it wasn't finalized yet. For the St. Joe's game which is usually one of our biggest draws other than Homecoming, reported attendance was 2134. I guess I just don't see us getting to 3000 on a regular basis. If 2500 seats meant extra/nicer concessions and maybe a few high tops on a standing level to congregate and have a beer while still being able to see the game, then I'd be all for having fewer seats.
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