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Post by durenduren on Nov 22, 2019 16:42:57 GMT -5
That is a huge win come Selection Sunday if they are on the bubble (like La Salle was after game 1) I hope we're making the same joke in March.
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Post by 23won on Nov 23, 2019 5:29:31 GMT -5
Mason hung with Maryland for a half but was worn down with Maryland talent and depth. Big 10 will be tough this year. Donta Scott looks very good. Physically strong and mature as a frosh. Hakim Hart is struggling with his shot at this level, like Ray.
SJU lost a close one. Daly shot well over 50% and scored in the 20s. Teams scout him but have trouble defending because he sets up square in advance of getting the ball and has a really quick release. If he graduates I could see a big Major come calling for some instant offense. He is ok with D and the dribble. Good passer and great release and shot mechanics. Must spend a ton of time in the gym shooting.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 23, 2019 16:59:40 GMT -5
Not A-10 but Penn is laying the wood to Providence. Up 17 at the half.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 23, 2019 17:49:07 GMT -5
Not A-10 but Penn is laying the wood to Providence. Up 17 at the half. This comment would be funnier if Wang wasn't injured.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 23, 2019 19:25:27 GMT -5
Impressive road win this afternoon by Penn Quakers 81 - 75 over the Providence Friars. Ryan Betley 22 pts ( five three pointers ), Jordan Dingle 19 points ( 16 of them in the second half ) and AJ Brodeur with 17 points and 10 rebounds.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 23, 2019 19:58:47 GMT -5
Is it me, or every year do we have some tragic loss in the first ~8 games that ends up looking more and more acceptable as the weeks go by?
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Post by vital on Nov 23, 2019 23:36:03 GMT -5
We need a signature win!
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Post by calsufan on Nov 24, 2019 8:58:52 GMT -5
Is it me, or every year do we have some tragic loss in the first ~8 games that ends up looking more and more acceptable as the weeks go by? I have the Explorers winning 12 games this year. Penn was one of the losses I had expected as they beat us every year. Let's face it, we're a young team right now without a lot of scoring firepower. Until this team gets more experience and a few more shooters, losses to good teams like Penn are going to be the norm.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 24, 2019 10:06:34 GMT -5
We did not seem to get the scoring or shooting we needed with the Fall recruiting period. When are we going to get it?
The loss of Clark really hurts us. He was the only one in the program that has natural scoring ability. We need a player that can score the ball breaking his man down more than anything:
The top A-10 programs have that player. We don’t have one. If you don’t have that you need to be very good somewhere else.
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Post by 23won on Nov 24, 2019 10:29:12 GMT -5
We have a lot of players who can contribute. We need a core lineup to emerge/be determined by Ash.
IMO we need to start the game with experience, shot makers and passers who can create a lead
Then we bring in rotations involving the young bucks to amp up pace, increase defensive pressure and create runout opportunities
I hope Ash can find his lineup(s) soon. Murray State is a tough matchup but that would be a great place to start
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Nov 24, 2019 19:38:31 GMT -5
SJU of PA getting rolled by Towson. down 15 with 5 minutes to play
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 24, 2019 19:44:54 GMT -5
We have a lot of players who can contribute. We need a core lineup to emerge/be determined by Ash. IMO we need to start the game with experience, shot makers and passers who can create a lead Then we bring in rotations involving the young bucks to amp up pace, increase defensive pressure and create runout opportunities I hope Ash can find his lineup(s) soon. Murray State is a tough matchup but that would be a great place to start We have no player who can get his own shot and consistently score. We have no reliable outside shooter at this point. We really need both to move up in this conference.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 24, 2019 19:56:01 GMT -5
SJU of PA getting rolled by Towson. down 15 with 5 minutes to play Their starters could not shoot. 12-46. Daly (6-13) had 13 and 12 boards for another double double. Kid is averaging exactly 20 points and 9 boards per game.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 24, 2019 20:21:24 GMT -5
Billy Lange & those 2-5 Hawks totally have it figured out.
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Post by gymrat67 on Nov 24, 2019 20:56:35 GMT -5
Villanova lost to Baylor 87 - 78 this afternoon in the Myrtle Beach Invitational Championship game, which was a phenomenal basketball game from start to finish by both teams.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 24, 2019 21:58:35 GMT -5
SJU of PA getting rolled by Towson. down 15 with 5 minutes to play 5-2 if you include moral victories. Neither La Salle loss is bad. Iona is a nice win. Will reserve judgment on this squad a few more weeks. Defense is solid; offense relies on freshmen contributors and will take time to develop. Not an “all Ash needs is time” guy, but finding it premature to evaluate a team that leans heavy on freshmen facilitators before January 15th
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Post by 23won on Nov 25, 2019 8:30:45 GMT -5
88 I hear you but we have to do a better job focusing on a lineup of guys who can score within the system we saw for 60 percent of the Iona game and then execute that system at a much higher level of consistency. We could win and improve (maybe not to top 3 A10, but there is room to move up).
We have experience and some decent physical athletes in Beatty, Phiri, Spencer and Deas plus a serviceable split 5 role. Gotta build around that and score and win and then start cycling the youth in. We need a core group and then build from there instead of experimenting with three frosh in the floor at the same time imo.
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Post by explorer88 on Nov 25, 2019 9:00:25 GMT -5
88 I hear you but we have to do a better job focusing on a lineup of guys who can score within the system we saw for 60 percent of the Iona game and then execute that system at a much higher level of consistency. We could win and improve (maybe not to top 3 A10, but there is room to move up). We have experience and some decent physical athletes in Beatty, Phiri, Spencer and Deas plus a serviceable split 5 role. Gotta build around that and score and win and then start cycling the youth in. We need a core group and then build from there instead of experimenting with three frosh in the floor at the same time imo. I agree with your first part. We do need to settle on a consistent lineup. I hate the constant substitutions. I don't see anyone from Beatty, Spencer. Phiri,and Deas as physical athletes. Nothing is special about any of them physically. I am not sure if that is what you meant when you wrote that or not. Yes, they will have to be in the mix for the consistency of a lineup because they are the most experienced. Ash has some work to do to get 5 guys as the core lineup. No one has stood out above the others so far consistently.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 25, 2019 9:01:07 GMT -5
But what's your goal, 23? If its maximizing wins in 2019-20, sure, that makes sense. If its program building, every minute you're giving a freshman is a minute he builds on for the next three seasons. To me atleast, that should be the aim here.
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Post by calsufan on Nov 25, 2019 10:18:24 GMT -5
My personal view is that Ash is playing the long game and that's one reason why the younger players are getting so much time. Another reason they're getting the time is that they're talented. This turn around is not going to happen overnight. I'm sure there will be times when I get frustrated as well, but I'm going to be patient. By the end of next year if we're still at 12 wins, then I may be questioning things a little more.
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Post by 23won on Nov 25, 2019 11:46:35 GMT -5
I think we need to learn how to win first. Two of the frosh are having issues transitioning at this level and two less so. So for the ones struggling, give them less and then let them earn more time as they get adjusted.
Winning cures all ills and people complain less about minutes if they are in the right rotations and contributing to the wins.
IMO, I'd try to win at all costs for now and do the following. Putting aside match-up dependent lineups, I'd address lineups and rotations by: starting each half with non-frosh; finishing the last three minutes with four non-frosh; and in between have a mix with no more than two frosh in at a given time. :
As far as specifics go:
Bigs: I would have Ed and Jared (and Moustaphe) essentially split the post time's 40 minutes; they are averaging 31 now and we are getting beaten up on the boards as a result, so I would up their minutes (+9 total).
Non- Bigs: As far as the rest of the 160 minutes go, I'd go a little over 60% of the minutes with the non-frosh and a little under 40% to the frosh. Until play shows differently, I'd play: Phiri 30 mpg (+4 over current); Spencer 26 mpg (same); Beatty 24 (minus 5 mpg over current); Deas 20 (+5 mpg over current); Ayinde 20 (-3); Stone 16 (-1); and Kenney and Ray 12 each (-8 each).
That's my best shot. Have at it.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 25, 2019 13:49:29 GMT -5
Its not a bad idea. I rather just play the long game with this. The experience now will pay off.
I kind of agree with reducing Ray's minutes a bit. Kid just seems really overwhelmed out there compared to the other 3. The effort is for sure there though. I would imagine Stone be playing more minutes if he didn't have an issue with his hamstring. Not sure how serious that is. Also, Croswell probably be playing more minutes if he can stay out of foul trouble.
I think the only thing I'm strongly against is giving Deas more minutes. I get we need offense but he plays too much iso ball and is a big liability defensively. I would like Phiri to shoot more. Honestly, I like the team in general to be shooting more threes.
IMO its a matter of time the offense finds it's rhythm. I just don't think Deas, Phiri and Kimbrough are the answer with that.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Nov 25, 2019 14:04:23 GMT -5
If its program building, every minute you're giving a freshman is a minute he builds on for the next three seasons. Works well when they transfer
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Post by MisterD on Nov 25, 2019 14:14:52 GMT -5
I disagree, I think that's the one way this strategy wouldn't work out.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Nov 25, 2019 21:20:59 GMT -5
Richmond takes down Wisconsin by 10 at the Barclays Center
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Post by calsufan on Nov 25, 2019 21:41:28 GMT -5
Richmond takes down Wisconsin by 10 at the Barclays Center That is a huge upset. Dayton took out Georgia by 19. The A10 has some good scalps this year.
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Post by vital on Nov 25, 2019 22:14:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 22:34:40 GMT -5
Tough day for the Fire Mooney Mafia. I hate deranged fans that haven’t won a single game in their life, or coached one, that think they know better than everyone. Happy for Mooney, I’ve heard good things about him as a guy and I think he’s a good coach. What those “fans” have done is pathetic, love them being put in their place.
Oh, and great win for the conference.
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 26, 2019 5:28:37 GMT -5
2 more W's in FLA would be nice. No reason why we shouldn't come home with the coveted Gulf Shores Tournament trophy. Let's beat the teams we're capable of beating
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Post by vital on Nov 26, 2019 14:22:34 GMT -5
2 more W's in FLA would be nice. No reason why we shouldn't come home with the coveted Gulf Shores Tournament trophy. Let's beat the teams we're capable of beating Whoaaa hold your enthusiasm...let's get one at a time! Ash made a coaching change and it work for a game that i like...The young players will play when they play Well and when they don't play well sit and learn from a different outlook..
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