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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 10:43:18 GMT -5
I think this year is the first time in history that the Winner of the Big 5 is not going to the NCAA Tournament.
Wonder if Temple makes the cut. They are last 4 in or first 4 out depending on which bracketologist you follow.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 17, 2019 11:50:04 GMT -5
I think this year is the first time in history that the Winner of the Big 5 is not going to the NCAA Tournament. Wonder if Temple makes the cut. They are last 4 in or first 4 out depending on which bracketologist you follow. I think you are correct about the Big 5 champ. Temple pissed me off losing to Wichita State the other night. With the PAC 12 now getting 2 bids, the WCC getting 2, and the A10 getting 2 bids, it's gonna be a Belmont or Temple.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 11:51:52 GMT -5
I think they get in partly because it's Dunphy's swan song and he is well liked in the basketball circles. They have a couple of good wins too that should get them in.
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Post by blueandgold on Mar 17, 2019 17:07:16 GMT -5
East region stacked. VCU vs UCF, St Louis vs Va Tech. Duke 1 seed. Temple-Belmont play-in game.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 17:15:57 GMT -5
Augustinian Villanova faces Christian Brothers St. Mary's.
St. Jean Baptiste de La Salle, Pray for us.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 17, 2019 17:52:24 GMT -5
There are like 20 schools flipping out about St. John’s, huh?
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Post by calsufan on Mar 17, 2019 18:51:27 GMT -5
Kentucky as a #2 seed. Smh.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 17, 2019 19:07:29 GMT -5
The seeding committee gave UVA a gift with that bracket.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 19:08:55 GMT -5
The seeding committee gave UVA a gift with that bracket. Just like last year when they gave them UMBC in the first round
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 19:15:22 GMT -5
For those interested in seeing if Dayton, Davidson, or the Bonnies get NIT bids, the selection show is at 8:30 on ESPNU. The NIT will be played with the following experimental rules (they did the first three last year):
• The 3-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot, 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet, 1.75 inches). • The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA. • The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 seconds. • Team fouls will reset at the 10-minute mark of each half for the purpose of determining free throws and one-and-one free throws will be eliminated. Teams will shoot two bonus free throws after the fifth team foul of each 10-minute segment. Additionally, teams will be awarded two bonus free throws after the second team foul committed under two minutes remaining in each half if that foul occurs before the fifth team foul of the segment. In each overtime period, team fouls will reset, and teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fourth team foul or the second team foul committed under two minutes remaining if that comes before the fourth team foul of the overtime period.
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Post by crayzeeguy on Mar 17, 2019 19:16:47 GMT -5
6 years. Never Forget.
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Post by crayzeeguy on Mar 17, 2019 19:18:00 GMT -5
There are like 20 schools flipping out about St. John’s, huh? Maybe cause Georgetown and Creighton were 3/4 in the Big East and are NIT. St. John’s was 7th and lost by 30 on Thursday and made it to NCAA.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 17, 2019 19:25:26 GMT -5
There are like 20 schools flipping out about St. John’s, huh? Maybe cause Georgetown and Creighton were 3/4 in the Big East and are NIT. St. John’s was 7th and lost by 30 on Thursday and made it to NCAA. That is pretty damn odd. What's the committee's reasoning?
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Post by calsufan on Mar 17, 2019 19:27:58 GMT -5
And why isn't Louisville still banned from the tourney?
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Post by MisterD on Mar 17, 2019 19:38:56 GMT -5
That is pretty damn odd. What's the committee's reasoning? By their own metric it’s indefensible.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 17, 2019 19:58:18 GMT -5
2 A10 teams in NIT - Dayton and Davidson.
Interesting footnote - Campbell plays UNC Greensboro on Tuesday. Campbell senior Chris Clemons needs 25 points to pass Lionel Simmons on the all-time scoring list. He's averaging 30 PPG this season, so a good chance to pass L-Train.
Who else was here for this? I was a freshman playing in the band.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 17, 2019 20:34:08 GMT -5
2 A10 teams in NIT - Dayton and Davidson. Interesting footnote - Campbell plays UNC Greensboro on Tuesday. Campbell senior Chris Clemons needs 25 points to pass Lionel Simmons on the all-time scoring list. He's averaging 30 PPG this season, so a good chance to pass L-Train. Who else was here for this? I was a freshman playing in the band. I was there.
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Post by durenduren on Mar 17, 2019 21:31:18 GMT -5
expsteve because explorersteve was just too long.
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Post by blueandgold on Mar 17, 2019 21:44:38 GMT -5
Maybe cause Georgetown and Creighton were 3/4 in the Big East and are NIT. St. John’s was 7th and lost by 30 on Thursday and made it to NCAA. That is pretty damn odd. What's the committee's reasoning? Gotta be best overall record of teams 3 through 10, who all finished between 9-9 and 7-11 in conference (#parity). 21-12 > 19-13 or 18-14. Seton Hall made it at 20-13, 9-9.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 18, 2019 2:11:26 GMT -5
That is pretty damn odd. What's the committee's reasoning? By their own metric it’s indefensible. NET is horseshit. Bring back RPI.
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Post by diehardexplorer on Mar 18, 2019 6:36:12 GMT -5
2 A10 teams in NIT - Dayton and Davidson. Interesting footnote - Campbell plays UNC Greensboro on Tuesday. Campbell senior Chris Clemons needs 25 points to pass Lionel Simmons on the all-time scoring list. He's averaging 30 PPG this season, so a good chance to pass L-Train. Who else was here for this? I was a freshman playing in the band. lots of us were there. lionel is such a class act on top of being a special, special player. after watching that video again, all i can think is where did all those people in the stands go? if only we could get half of them to show up for games again .....
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Post by jellybean on Mar 18, 2019 6:47:20 GMT -5
My only real problem is St. John's getting in. Fraud. I don't know a thing about UNCG but I'd like to see a mid-major over a fraud BE team in the Dance.
Congrats to VCU and SLU. If Evans is healthy I think VCU could beat UCF ( 7-6 Tako Fall) and get to face Duke. SLU will have a tough one against Hokies.
Final Four Duke Michigan Virginia and UNC
Championship Virginia over Duke
Nova just gets by St. Mary's and slips against Purdue. Temple loses a two pointer to Belmont
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Post by Shout out to my Cousin Bern on Mar 18, 2019 6:50:19 GMT -5
I think this year is the first time in history that the Winner of the Big 5 is not going to the NCAA Tournament. I was wondering if that had ever happened too. I thought there might be a chance another team had this happen but I assumed never to a team that SWEPT the Big 5.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 18, 2019 7:22:48 GMT -5
My only real problem is St. John's getting in. Fraud. I don't know a thing about UNCG but I'd like to see a mid-major over a fraud BE team in the Dance. See, I’ve watched Belmont three times this year and don’t think they belong. I’ve watched St Johns more and they have been a better basketball team. NET makes some grand proclamation about how good a team is on paper using efficiencies. RPI actually looks at your success, and who it was against.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 18, 2019 7:42:42 GMT -5
My only real problem is St. John's getting in. Fraud. I don't know a thing about UNCG but I'd like to see a mid-major over a fraud BE team in the Dance. See, I’ve watched Belmont three times this year and don’t think they belong. I’ve watched St Johns more and they have been a better basketball team. NET makes some grand proclamation about how good a team is on paper using efficiencies. RPI actually looks at your success, and who it was against. I'm OK with St. John's and Belmont. I'm less OK with Florida. For no reason other than optics, I just can't wrap my head around a team with fewer than 20 wins getting an at-large bid while 27-7 Hofstra goes NIT.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 18, 2019 7:47:53 GMT -5
Because Hofstra's best win is #47 Northeastern (a good win, but they also lost to them twice), twice they beat #86 and then their next best win was 113. Their SOS was 197 (of 350ish).
They have losses to 257 and 263.
They're Drexel from years back.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Mar 18, 2019 7:53:46 GMT -5
Because Hofstra's best win is #47 Northeastern (a good win, but they also lost to them twice), twice they beat #86 and then their next best win was 113. Their SOS was 197 (of 350ish). They have losses to 257 and 263. They're Drexel from years back. I know. I get all that logically. Regardless of conference, it's still tough to win 27 games in a year, and a loss in the conference final shouldn't keep them from the dance. I know RPIs and SOS and all that disagree, but still feels like if you get that many wins, you should be in over a sub-20 win team.
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Post by coachd on Mar 18, 2019 8:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Mar 18, 2019 8:28:52 GMT -5
All of the good wins and Quad 1 stuff is nonsense. St. John's has 5 Quad 1 wins which is pretty nice until you point out they have 12 Quad 1 games. Its back to (or a continuation of) rewarding teams for their existence in a conference.
(Syracuse was 3-9 in Quad 1.)
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Mar 18, 2019 9:19:48 GMT -5
Because Hofstra's best win is #47 Northeastern (a good win, but they also lost to them twice), twice they beat #86 and then their next best win was 113. Their SOS was 197 (of 350ish). They have losses to 257 and 263. They're Drexel from years back. I know. I get all that logically. Regardless of conference, it's still tough to win 27 games in a year, and a loss in the conference final shouldn't keep them from the dance. I know RPIs and SOS and all that disagree, but still feels like if you get that many wins, you should be in over a sub-20 win team. Except they didn't play anybody! And I'm not saying that is their fault, but by your argument everyone should try to schedule the bottom 10% of the country OOC. The win count argument is so foolish, in my humble opinion.
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