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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Aug 30, 2019 20:16:13 GMT -5
yes...apparently once directly was too much for you
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Post by MisterD on Aug 30, 2019 20:49:15 GMT -5
Raaaaaaand!!!
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Post by hykos1045 on Aug 31, 2019 1:16:40 GMT -5
I think GlitterBro #2 won't ever be happy about the timing of the locked thread because it obviously should have been locked when a brilliant and wonderfully successful alumna got character assassinated but instead it got locked as soon as a moderator and his point of view got rebutted. That said, it really was unfortunate timing and I truly believe calsufan is telling you the truth on that. But it is even more unfortunate that another mod had been the one doing 2/3 of the attacking La Salle and its representatives. Because it wasn't on the basketball board he said he felt "comfortable" enough to take it up a notch from what had already been said. Joe you should give yourself some time to reassess what it supposedly means to be here. Come back to talk about basketball in November. But as a number of other posters have said, we're not here for the personal agenda, Joe. It ruins the experience for all.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 3:12:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip.
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 31, 2019 7:24:55 GMT -5
it really is unbelievable that the other thread was locked. Differing opinions than that of the liberal moderators get locked. I guess the white guilt of growing up in a Lilly white suburb and going to a 20K a year prep high school was too much for him.
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Post by MisterD on Aug 31, 2019 7:37:05 GMT -5
What’s the opposite of white guilt?
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 31, 2019 8:44:37 GMT -5
What’s the opposite of white guilt? Edited. Nothing on the internet should make me this mad. Go Explorers.
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Post by calsufan on Aug 31, 2019 9:10:42 GMT -5
The conspiracy theories of some of the posters here are ridiculous. I locked that thread, not because I'm liberal, but because I saw it devolving. If any of you with your conspiracy theory bullshit had remembered I had said earlier in that same thread while I don't like Fox News at all, I have ZERO problem with La Salle being there. ZERO, 0. You can accuse me of some other bias and back handedly call me a liar, but guess what guys? It's the truth. I didn't want the thread to get out of hand and tear this board apart. Kind of like this thread. I'm done defending myself. Call me a liar all you want but I know the truth.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Aug 31, 2019 10:14:04 GMT -5
No one called you a liar that I can see here, despite your claims of such. The optics of locking a thread where the majority of people disagreed with a moderator's political point of view do look questionable, though, regardless of intent...especially given how quickly is was locked...and especially given that this thread was never locked despite being the most partisan one on here (with maybe the exception of the Art Museum thread).
Objectively then, if you are concerned about partisanship, this thread should have been shut down 2 years ago but it wasn't. I can't say for certain why because, although I've asked it, you haven't answered. Maybe it is because the majority of posts in this one defend the more liberal points of view. Whether this is a subconscious bias on your part to not shut this one down because the majority of its posts affirm your beliefs, I cannot say with certainty, although a lot of research indicates that people subconsciously will seek the sources most like their views and look to shut down the ones that are antithetical to their beliefs. This is probably why the perception as to the reason of the locking exists, despite the stated reasons.
I get that you wanted to avoid the partisanship that was in the thread, and while there was an element of that (starting with the initial post which was highly partisan), reading the posts is seemed it devolved into a personal attack on an alum because of her employer. That wasn't right. That being said, I'm not a fan of locking threads and am a fan of debate, discourse, and free speech. I like to know the "why" of people's viewpoints, and sometimes the way to get to that is by asking impertinent questions (to borrow from John Grady). I'd love to get to the root of why the OP labeled the appearance of La Salle on national TV as "disgusting" and see if he can understand the broader impact of that, but he has been eerily silent on the matter, leaving the rest of us to debate and discuss.
I'm wondering how many people who were outraged or disgusted actually watched the video that was posted. I am not a Fox News watcher, but showed the clip to my daughter who is a HS senior and had just been on a tour of La Salle this week and is considering marketing or communications. She thought it was great to see the cheerleaders and the mascot with the bigger schools, but really happy to see someone who went to La Salle working in the field and visible on TV. I also got a note from a friend of mine who was a former season ticket holder and a Fox News watcher. He told me he saw La Salle on TV that morning and asked me how to get season tickets again and is now buying this weekend with the sale. So...granted this is a statistically insignificant N of 2 in a very limited subset of my world, but that's 2 positive ones from this.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 10:48:54 GMT -5
it really is unbelievable that the other thread was locked. Differing opinions than that of the liberal moderators get locked. I guess the white guilt of growing up in a Lilly white suburb and going to a 20K a year prep high school was too much for him. i didn’t lock the thread and the high school I went to was $8500.
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 31, 2019 15:04:57 GMT -5
it really is unbelievable that the other thread was locked. Differing opinions than that of the liberal moderators get locked. I guess the white guilt of growing up in a Lilly white suburb and going to a 20K a year prep high school was too much for him. i didn’t lock the thread and the high school I went to was $8500. Edited. Nothing on the internet should make me this mad. Go Explorers.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 15:27:30 GMT -5
Listen dude, if she wants to peddle right wing talking points...more power to her. I doubt she believes the words though and in my opinion that’s kinda shitty.
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 31, 2019 15:39:28 GMT -5
Listen dude, if she wants to peddle right wing talking points...more power to her. I doubt she believes the words though and in my opinion that’s kinda shitty. Edited. Nothing on the internet should make me this mad. Go Explorers.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Aug 31, 2019 16:13:35 GMT -5
Listen dude, if she wants to peddle right wing talking points...more power to her. I doubt she believes the words though and in my opinion that’s kinda shitty. Can you cite a specific example of her peddling right wing talking points, or is this just your bias and assumptions coming through? I don't watch the channel, but I thought her role was to read the news headlines of the day and not give political spin to them...someone correct me if I am wrong. You don't know for a fact what she believes or what her political leanings are, but are making an assumption, without knowing her, on what she believes and forming an opinion of her as "shitty". This after calling her a "sell-out" in the other thread. Kind of odd how much you've speculated on her and state these things as fact. Do you hate all women, or just the ones that MIGHT (in your mind anyway based on no facts or evidence you've provided) have a different opinion about the world than you do?
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Post by explorer88 on Aug 31, 2019 16:31:35 GMT -5
Joe, might be best to let this go. The more you speak the deeper you sink. Your vitriol for conservatives is blinding you.
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Post by MisterD on Aug 31, 2019 16:41:32 GMT -5
“Please cite evidence of the Fox News host peddling right wing talking points” is a unique one.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 17:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by MisterD on Aug 31, 2019 17:59:01 GMT -5
Feel free to send me a message if you’d like to settle up in person. Ok, sure, tough guy. Meet me at some third tier lake in the poconos. Winner has to drive me somewhere not in the goddamn mountains.
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Post by 1801olney on Aug 31, 2019 18:26:09 GMT -5
Feel free to send me a message if you’d like to settle up in person. Ok, sure, tough guy. Meet me at some third tier lake in the poconos. Winner has to drive me somewhere not in the goddamn mountains. Edited. Nothing on the internet should make me this mad. Go Explorers.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 19:44:27 GMT -5
This is going great.
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Post by theneumann64 on Aug 31, 2019 19:54:48 GMT -5
We're absolutely not going to have threats of physical violence on here, that's just not going to happen.
A bunch of people have showed their ass throughout this whole thing, and I'd put two of the three of us Moderators in that category. Truthfully, calsufan did nothing wrong. He locked the thread when he thought it was irredeemable. And his opinion is far more measured here than he's getting credit for- he's said he's totally fine with the segment, and La Salle people appearing on Fox News in this capacity. He shouldn't get lumped in with anyone else on this.
My opinion was that as long as the ladies who appeared did so on their own accord, and weren't told they "had to" go, then I'm fine with the appearance, although any sort of appearance or association with our school logo and colors on Fox News does make me personally a little uneasy. I'm glad that Jillian Mele seems to be a proud alumnus, rather than other prominent alums who've taken shots at the school in the past, but I also disagree that there's any sort of "non-political" association with Fox News. If we had an alum who was a prominent executive or spokesperson for a tobacco company or gun manufacturer, I'd feel uncomfortable with the school associating too freely with them, and that's basically how I feel here. I know to some people that will seem ridiculous, and I know it's not really reasonable to expect the school to tell them to pound sand when presented with this opportunity, but that's where I land.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Aug 31, 2019 20:19:25 GMT -5
I’m not apologizing for anything I said but will apologize for setting a low bar. I’m out of this thread but will happily discuss in private.
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Post by MisterD on Aug 31, 2019 20:38:37 GMT -5
Ok, sure, tough guy. Meet me at some third tier lake in the poconos. Winner has to drive me somewhere not in the goddamn mountains. You are a coward. I’ve punched racist in the face, you yell and scream online. Who is real and who is not? Like I said, I’m comfortable in any environment. Ok, big man. You’re super tough and yet I’m still here in the middle of nowhere unscathed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 23:54:48 GMT -5
Being connected to coaches back to the 70s, still talking to players and coaches from the last 10 years on an almost daily basis, congratulations guys, I'm done here. Joe is an absolute embarrassment, moderators inferring girls were "forced into appearing" at the most watched news channel in the country, and others saying an alumnus, as it more successful than 95% of this board is just "peddling" talking points is sickening. I'm done here. When I see and talk to the staff I'll be sure to share with the few here or off here that I speak with. This is pathetic and embarrassing to the university. I hope Colleen doesn't post again. I hope Kale doesn't. Because supporting you cowards is sickening. Good luck justifying your agenda of trashing people that don't align with your political agenda. The tolerant left strikes again.
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Sept 1, 2019 7:52:57 GMT -5
I’m not apologizing for anything I said Basically...you're saying you feel completely justified and entitled in calling a woman you've never met who has been a loyal alum "shitty" and a "sell-out"... all because you don't like where she works and how it actually brings recognition to our small Catholic school. You made this personal about an alum I'm guessing you never interacted with, and others on here who know her tell you that you are completely wrong about her, yet you still dig in your heels and double-down on it, refusing to see any positives to this for the school or negatives of your attack on her. That your confirmation bias doesn't even let you see what's wrong with that makes saying it worse and makes your explicit non-apology you posted spiteful.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Sept 1, 2019 8:55:14 GMT -5
Being connected to coaches back to the 70s, still talking to players and coaches from the last 10 years on an almost daily basis, congratulations guys, I'm done here. Joe is an absolute embarrassment, moderators inferring girls were "forced into appearing" at the most watched news channel in the country, and others saying an alumnus, as it more successful than 95% of this board is just "peddling" talking points is sickening. I'm done here. When I see and talk to the staff I'll be sure to share with the few here or off here that I speak with. This is pathetic and embarrassing to the university. I hope Colleen doesn't post again. I hope Kale doesn't. Because supporting you cowards is sickening. Good luck justifying your agenda of trashing people that don't align with your political agenda. The tolerant left strikes again. I am very sorry to see that someone from La Salle might have been trashed or felt to be trashed per the discourse here. I do not think that is what this should be about. That is sad. Perhaps there is a better way to make a point? (and I do not think better is calling La Salle folks cowards). But, I don't agree with the reduction of the overall matter at hand here to a "political agenda" thing. (That is what Trump does about everything and anytime he is being held accountable). And, I hope the school takes a closer look at this situation. Maybe they want to try to understand why the strong reaction here? In that regard, what got my specific attention was having our cheerleaders kneel down in front of a picture of Sean Hannity. Per the school, it is an important values thing. My view, I have to agree with the first poster "it's a bad look". I made my point about this in an early post. I sure hope the school is not interested in aligning with the likes of Hannity and most importantly Trump. To put it mildly, I do not agree with the values of these men in so many ways. These are not role models for my grandchildren, yours?. This may be insignificant or okay with you and others, but I suspect there are many La Salle faithful that might feel similar to myself. Mistakes happen, to me mistakes were made here. Yes, please take a look La Salle! One last thing I would like to say, among the posters here Joe puts his name on what he says.
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Post by 1801olney on Sept 1, 2019 9:05:51 GMT -5
I probably took this too far yesterday. Apologies to all. We are all here because of our loyalty to La Salle. Lets get some wins this year and get it started towards a tournament bid in 2021.
Joe and mister D. I’ll buy you guys a beer before the first tournament game. And mister D, we finally agree on something: shore > poconos.
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Post by LaSallePal on Sept 1, 2019 11:36:07 GMT -5
Full credit to for calsufan locking that thread. It wasn't going to go anywhere worthwhile, and that's not always recognized in time. Also credit to whoever did decide to keep this thread open, because it's a great quarantine to keep it from the rest of the board when it's not otherwise contextually relevant. With all of that said, this entire exchange was entirely predictable and the popcorn was delicious. Look, at some point everyone involved here said something relevant and correct. That should illustrate how dumb it all was considering the ostensibly common goals, both as alumni and Americans. Republicans have money. Republicans have children. Many of those children go to college. Republicans also aren't war criminals. Republicans aren't the opposition in a civil war. Republicans aren't even the sole viewership of Fox News, and Fox and Friends is quite literally the most fluffy inoffensive show on Fox News. It's like The Today Show, but somehow even more boring and worse, with more talk of guns and the military and mawkish gesturing towards ostensible Republican/conservative values. The thing about those values? No one adheres to any of it anymore, Democratic or Republican. It's all naked Machiavellian pragmatism. There are no adults in the room so everyone gets to shoot off at the mouth and no one ever has to say they're sorry, especially the journalists. Remember that one time every major news network was convinced that Donald Trump said that the neo-nazis in Charlottesville were very fine people, even though the transcript itself didn't? Or the other time they were convinced he said all Mexicans were rapists, conveniently ignoring the primary school lesson of the differences between their/they're/their. And how goddamned often did a Republican shoot off at the mouth about fiscal responsibility and then give hundreds of millions of dollars to billionaires? Or talk about family values and then bleat on about how men should man up even as they actively undermine the family and reduce a man's manning up to a child support check as their wife gets inappropriately close to the pool boy and they get uncomfortably close to someone in the men's room? Meanwhile somehow the Democrats have adopted the fiercely libertarian stance that all tech companies have the absolute right to refuse to do business with whoever they want, at which point they're functionally saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is outdated and irrelevant. I can't imagine John Lewis would be too pleased if that was repealed, or if businesses in the Deep South really could refuse service to anyone. They also talk in deeply romantic tones about the working class, even as they seek to undermine its stability and prospects with incoherent immigration and family policies of their own while pontificating about the absolute importance of free trade with an actual despotic country and constantly denigrating those racist yokels in flyover country. It's all so unprincipled, and so transparent to anyone with a wider view of history. This is to say nothing of the fact that gold diggers exist, and yes, they will absolutely consent to creepy old rich men fondling them, and that what you're saying when you attack his military non-service is that yes, risking one's life in service of an unjustified war was the principled thing to do. These are distractions, and they serve to illustrate a wider, more concerning point: What are you really saying when you parrot these talking points? I get that the world is unfathomably big and complex, and that it's hard to know all truth in all areas, but does who the president is at a given time really even affect you? Have you really thought critically about any of this? Or are you outsourcing all these thoughts to someone in a far away land who doesn't have your best interests at heart? I could go on, but I'm already in short essay territory. I hope everyone is well, and I hope La Salle snags 20 wins next year.
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Post by coachd on Sept 20, 2021 11:00:26 GMT -5
I really do pray that we have a full Audit of the election in all of the swing states. Biden/Harris have been a national disgrace in their failure to handle the border crisis and their failure to get all Americans and military personnel and military equipment safely out of Afghanistan. We really miss the leadership of President Trump as do our allies worldwide. Even Jimmy Carter's top advisor said Biden reminds him of Carter with the stagflation and weakness as a leader both domestic and internationally. The main difference is Carter was ignorant... Biden is just plain stupid if he can't figure things out after 40 years in DC. More on Durham Report is finally released! www.judicialwatch.org/videos/durham-biden-hillary-babbitt/
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Sept 20, 2021 11:04:30 GMT -5
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