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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 14, 2018 16:19:50 GMT -5
You've also just advocated violating the law by using the military for civilian law enforcement within the country. Posse Comitatus Please go look up Posse Comitatus because you are 180 degrees off base. Posse Comitatus says that you can not use U S Military against "U S Citizens.". What we have is securing the border against illegal entry into the country which is perfectly within the law. He said we should send the military to states that are in the middle of counting (or re-counting) votes.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 14, 2018 16:26:46 GMT -5
Please go look up Posse Comitatus because you are 180 degrees off base. Posse Comitatus says that you can not use U S Military against "U S Citizens.". What we have is securing the border against illegal entry into the country which is perfectly within the law. He said we should send the military to states that are in the middle of counting (or re-counting) votes. And while I'm no lawyer, I'm almost positive that it doesn't say or mean "you can't use the US Military against US citizens." Here's the text: Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. ....I'm sure there's plenty of ways to interpret this, but "it only applies to US citizens" almost definitely isn't one of them.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 14, 2018 16:40:55 GMT -5
It blows my mind that Republicans and Democrats alike discredit the other side, saying their opposition's media spins everything to cater to their goals, but nobody looks at their own 'side' to vet the information they're being spoon-fed. It's all bullshit on both sides, but how on earth are we discrediting the opposition without applying the same logic to your own media pundits. Both sides are guilty of it. It's too much to expect people to think for themselves, do a smidge of research, look into some of these claims, I guess. Both sides are absolutely not equally guilty of it. There's a difference between "spin" and spreading outright lies and conspiracy theories with no basis in reality. Oh, Fox News is screwed up, alright. They spread misinformation & cooked story-lines like no other outlet. Look at Breitbart or InfoWars - everything both said were cool, even the really crazy conspiracy-related shit like Hillary and pizza shops, until they weren't cool anymore. Relationships of convenience, just like white nationalists and Trump. When it becomes too costly, he'll denounce it, but until the negatives outweigh the benefits... Spin or outright lies - we aren't teaching the importance and value of fact-checking. One of the best college courses I ever took focused solely how we're all conditioned to consume everything we read as absolute fact. Often, it's mostly garbage cooked to help an argument.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 14, 2018 16:43:49 GMT -5
It blows my mind that Republicans and Democrats alike discredit the other side, saying their opposition's media spins everything to cater to their goals, but nobody looks at their own 'side' to vet the information they're being spoon-fed. It's all bullshit on both sides, but how on earth are we discrediting the opposition without applying the same logic to your own media pundits. Both sides are guilty of it. It's too much to expect people to think for themselves, do a smidge of research, look into some of these claims, I guess. Both sides are absolutely not equally guilty of it. There's a difference between "spin" and spreading outright lies and conspiracy theories with no basis in reality. While it is true all the critters in the zoo are known to take a dump. Ask the keeper who tends the elephant cage if there be some notable differences!
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Post by MisterD on Nov 14, 2018 16:46:42 GMT -5
Can I get an example or three of clear news or politician bullshit the left, en masse, has believed and parroted? Not policy positions, actual provable lies.
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Post by durenduren on Nov 14, 2018 17:05:04 GMT -5
Can I get an example or three of clear news or politician bullshit the left, en masse, has believed and parroted? Not policy positions, actual provable lies. I'm not saying leftist media lies like that. I'm curious if someone can offer up what they believe to be lies though. I just didn't want to make that point without admitting that both sides do blindly consume talking points without vetting facts, because they both obviously do. And I didn't want to make this point without admitting that certain media outlets, while far more impartial than say Fox, are not perfect either & do bring some bias to the table.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 14, 2018 17:42:12 GMT -5
While some individuals may be ok, all cable news networks are awful and massive net negatives to society.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 14, 2018 19:42:38 GMT -5
He said we should send the military to states that are in the middle of counting (or re-counting) votes. And while I'm no lawyer, I'm almost positive that it doesn't say or mean "you can't use the US Military against US citizens." Here's the text: Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. ....I'm sure there's plenty of ways to interpret this, but "it only applies to US citizens" almost definitely isn't one of them. Try this. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 14, 2018 19:54:13 GMT -5
Exactly. And what part of that allows for the military to be sent to states where there are close elections being determined right now?
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 15, 2018 10:42:39 GMT -5
Specialized Training for the troops sent to the border has been suggested to be a resounding success according to administration sources. Put simply because the troops are legally really not allowed to do anything, they have been trained in making mean faces . Video tapes of when Melania learned of Donald's dalliances with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal have contributed immeasurably according to these sources to the troop training. It is believed that lining up the troops and having them employ the mean and angry looks they have now mastered in this training will turn back the menacing hordes of the caravan and save the country. Of course helping to make America great again! Mea Culpa! for the "Fake News" I advanced in this hasty posting. An official retraction here. It is not illegal for Don to send troops to the border and even engage in combat with the savage invaders of the caravan. So count down the days for this showdown! What will Don order these troops to do??
Though Vlad would approve of Don's military action, there is some strong sentiment among people appearing to have 1/2 a brain that it is just stupid and a political stunt to mobilize the "true Believers", (for example, to show up at the mid terms). There is a consensus among those of sound judgment that our existing border patrol and if need be national guard forces are well able to respond to this pending scary national threat.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 16, 2018 7:59:38 GMT -5
Update Reportedly, Don Jr and Jared have returned from secret meetings with the Saudis ecstatically announcing the mystery of the missing journalist is now solved. He was a victim of an extraterrestrial alien abduction. Don the Dad, while also jubilant, shook his head in disgust saying "he should have known illegal aliens were behind it"!. He is dispatching the new Spaceforce (inaugurated by Don for just this type of event) to attempt a rescue of the poor fellow from the dastardly evil aliens. GOP-ers and of course Republican senators are breathing a long sigh of relief. Sleep well America, team Trump is making America great! Fox news update According to folks at Fox Khashoggi may have had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood....or so some people are saying. I think Don will have to inform the nation about this. I mean he is a pro at, "some people are saying it" Update Ever the dealmaker Don and team are working to broker a deal for America to deport to Erogan of Turkey the evil dissident cleric residing in Pa he has long sought (remember General Flynn) to persuade him not to release the evidence he has that ties the Crown Prince to Khashoggi's assassination. And some say Don is not loyal to friends! America getting greater by the day!
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 30, 2018 20:40:40 GMT -5
While they both know without question having first hand knowledge, so no debate between the two about this-- Don will lick endlessly the darkest and dirtiest places in pursuit of a dollar. But it took a while for them to settle just whose bitch Don really is. A priceless reaction for sure (check out this video)! Such a hearty high 5 that erupted as MBS and Vlad realize they can agree "they can share"! Awesome video! Be proud! Americans gotta love this winning!
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 21, 2018 9:26:35 GMT -5
A seasons greeting from the leaders of the new world order!
Special Thanks and a hearty Merry Christmas!
to 401 K Trumpers (for your blind trust, failure to do your homework, and utter gullibility)
from Vlad, Tayyip, mohammed bin salman and DON
And we promise you a new direction for the world that you deserve!
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Post by GlitterBro #2 on Dec 21, 2018 14:15:43 GMT -5
to 401 K Trumpers (for your blind trust, failure to do your homework, and utter gullibility) Not making a political statement here, but actually the stock market decline was somewhat predicted as the second year of a first term presidency is traditionally the worst in terms of stock market returns. Hopefully you did your homework and were smart enough to park money in cash in the July/ August time frame . The 3rd year of a first term presidency has traditionally resulted in double-digit S&P gains and is the strongest of the annual cycles in a president's term....so load up on stocks now with that cash you hopefully parked in the summer, and let's hope the split Congress doesn't create a stalemate that inhibits economic growth. www.polarisgreystone.com/blog/politics-and-the-markets/me.bcu.org/PresidentialElectionsArticle.aspx
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Dec 24, 2018 11:57:36 GMT -5
A seasons greeting from the leaders of the new world order! Special Thanks and a hearty Merry Christmas! to 401 K Trumpers (for your blind trust, failure to do your homework, and utter gullibility) from Vlad, Tayyip, mohammed bin salman and DON
And we promise you a new direction for the world that you deserve! Fear not! 401 K Trumpers, your 401 k's will be saved! It is in the works as we speak, the cornerstone to the plan, eliminate one of the major culprits kneecapping Don's economy! Jerome Powell at the fed. Don will find the way to fire em! and bring real business acumen to the job. Don jr. will eventually be installed in the position (Jared unfortunately appears too busy)! Keep the faith about that MEGA MEGA economic growth Don promised ! And remember Mexico will pay for that wall!
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 4, 2019 12:45:22 GMT -5
Immigration It sure looks like American institutional wheels of justice are slowly grinding toward accountability for the Trump clan. Will it be prison for Don and his brood? Or perhaps, Vlad might offer them asylum for services rendered? And what shall become of the “Birther Trumpers”, the many millions of voters inspired by Don’s plan (with special thanks to Steve Bannon and Steven Miller) to cleanse American society and install/restore the “legitimates” to their rightful position of power? The answer to this just seems like such a no brainer. These folks might consider immigration, immigrating to Russia. Go to a society that is of like-mind, clearly matching the social order you seek, obviously ready made for your value system. Make America Great !
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 4, 2019 14:46:39 GMT -5
America, meet the Pelosi House. Articles of impeachment, a move to abolish the electoral college, comparisons of the president to Hitler, a nonstarter vote on the shutdown, profanity, a proposal for a 70% tax on the "wealthy"--all under 36 hours. Wait till they get rolling.
Democratic Party is insane. Republican Party is full of wussies and Rinos.
God help us.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 4, 2019 16:04:08 GMT -5
America, meet the Pelosi House. Articles of impeachment, a move to abolish the electoral college, comparisons of the president to Hitler, a nonstarter vote on the shutdown, profanity, a proposal for a 70% tax on the "wealthy"--all under 36 hours. Wait till they get rolling. Democratic Party is insane. Republican Party is full of wussies and Rinos. God help us. I was going to respond to each of your "points" but I'll limit it to just one- the "nonstarter" vote on the shutdown was agreed to by the Republican held Senate UNANIMOUSLY last month.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 4, 2019 16:06:15 GMT -5
Upset about the profanity, are you?
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 4, 2019 17:00:50 GMT -5
Upset about the profanity, are you? That is just plain idiotic Mr. D. Those are Trump supporters and not members of congress. Sorry but members of congress need to be better than psychos that support a candidate. On top of that the woman said it right in front of her kids. Just ridiculous.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 4, 2019 17:02:26 GMT -5
America, meet the Pelosi House. Articles of impeachment, a move to abolish the electoral college, comparisons of the president to Hitler, a nonstarter vote on the shutdown, profanity, a proposal for a 70% tax on the "wealthy"--all under 36 hours. Wait till they get rolling. Democratic Party is insane. Republican Party is full of wussies and Rinos. God help us. I was going to respond to each of your "points" but I'll limit it to just one- the "nonstarter" vote on the shutdown was agreed to by the Republican held Senate UNANIMOUSLY last month. I hear you. The Republicans have their issues as well. That is why I said wussies and RINOS.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 4, 2019 17:11:32 GMT -5
"And before you even dare make the obvious comparison to my beloved leader, I implore you to recall that Mr. Trump was at the time a private citizen in front of exactly zero children when he spoke about grabbing women by their pussies."
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Post by MisterD on Jan 4, 2019 17:14:49 GMT -5
And I'll do that point by point ...
- Articles of impeachment Good - a move to abolish the electoral college Good - comparisons of the president to Hitler I concede this is premature - a nonstarter vote on the shutdown Good - profanity Fuckin' good - a proposal for a 70% tax on the "wealthy" Good
all under 36 hours. Wait till they get rolling.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 5, 2019 7:35:56 GMT -5
Yeah I’m ok with these things.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Jan 7, 2019 19:22:13 GMT -5
Too many sleepless nights!
I know I speak for many folks out there, the stress due to the lack of security at the southern border has been overwhelming. Terrorists pouring in. These gangs of rapists, drug and human trafficking invaders just must be stopped. Thank God for Don and his plan for a wall. After hearing the latest I am hoping Don really plans a hardball pitch tomorrow night for a really, really high wall. I kid you not, below is a still image from a secret Isis/cartel training video. These guys are relentless, extensive pole vault training is reported to be underway. Unless the walls are high expect waves and waves of pole vaulters, likely all with VD invading our beloved country. This absolutely raises this crisis to the national emergency level for certain. Make sure you are in front of your TV for Don’s emergency address tomorrow night.[attachment id="944" thumbnail="1"
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Post by blueandgold on Jan 7, 2019 19:42:58 GMT -5
Oh good this thread is going strong in 2019, won’t need a separate one for the 2020 election.
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Post by hykos1045 on Jan 7, 2019 22:46:33 GMT -5
Explorer88, the 70% tax idea is one socialist's agenda, it could never become that party's plan because that party is backed by Wall Street bankers.
This is fear tactic used by FAUX NEWS. This tax plan will never be voted on let alone pass.
But if you're still somehow at all worried about 70% of YOUR paycheck being subject to withholding, you should rest assured, it is only proposed to be for the top 0.1% of filers, earning $10M/year or more. I presume if you aren't in that, there really is nothing to worry about, besides more people moving funds offshore, but they're doing that anyway right now. And if you are in that bracket, would you please consider a donation to the arena fund, and write it off as a donation.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 8, 2019 8:21:07 GMT -5
And Fox is intentionally getting it wrong. 10 seconds of thought would probably lead most anyone to conclude that a 70% flat tax does, by far, the most harm to the lowest income people and that's not exactly the progressive agenda.
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 8, 2019 9:48:55 GMT -5
Explorer88, the 70% tax idea is one socialist's agenda, it could never become that party's plan because that party is backed by Wall Street bankers. This is fear tactic used by FAUX NEWS. This tax plan will never be voted on let alone pass. But if you're still somehow at all worried about 70% of YOUR paycheck being subject to withholding, you should rest assured, it is only proposed to be for the top 0.1% of filers, earning $10M/year or more. I presume if you aren't in that, there really is nothing to worry about, besides more people moving funds offshore, but they're doing that anyway right now. And if you are in that bracket, would you please consider a donation to the arena fund, and write it off as a donation. I know it will never pass. I am teasing a little Hykos. The fact remains that people like these nut jobs are becoming more and more of the norm in the democratic party. Cortez is flat-out dangerous. She is young and attractive and we know American voter often gets mesmerized by the attractive candidate and the young coming out of college have been totally brainwashed but liberal professors and have no clue the damage this type of think could do if set into policy. I just hope the more moderate Democrat can prevail as we move forward. I think 33% of Democrats now favor Socialism over Capitalism. Downright scary. Two thinga are for sure: 1. It is going to be pleasure watching the Democrats cannibalize each other as 2020 approaches. Can't wait for the Corey Bookers, Kamala Harris', Joe Biden, Beto O'Rourke, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Hillary Cliton to attack each other to secure the nomination. 2. The left are going to lose their mind when Trump addresses the nation tonight. Good entertainment coming.
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Post by MisterD on Jan 8, 2019 9:50:44 GMT -5
Bernie Sanders polls at >50% favorable because he's really f'ing hot.
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