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Post by lasallescreamer on Dec 30, 2012 3:59:53 GMT -5
You guys miss the point. You do not think word gets around? You don't think that could play a part in a kid going elsewhere, knowing he can come home? I am not suggesting saying"dont let door hit u on way out"- am saying that once it gets around, it is that much harder to close a deal. We do not disagree on accepting transfers or on being nice; just in the way that its done.
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Post by rcoz on Dec 30, 2012 8:18:08 GMT -5
you cannot recriut a kid on another team til he offically turns in his transfer papers. Alot of times it is all rumors if a kid will transfer. but most times they will go back home or where they have friends on the team etc etc.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 30, 2012 10:00:02 GMT -5
Screamer, do you really think we've lost a recruit to the BCS because we're open to transfers? Like Garland would have chosen La Salle initially if he weren't confident he could fall back if VA Tech didn't work out? C'mon. You have to have leverage to use leverage and we don't have it over BCS schools.
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Post by lasallescreamer on Dec 30, 2012 10:48:16 GMT -5
Dont really know. But would a player go to a BCS if he knew that a lack of p/t was a reality and that transfering was always a possibility but that it might have to be to Montana A and W instead of a great school like LSU who had the p/t to begin with. Look, most schools are in the transfer market and we should be as well. Its just how u do it. "Always feel free to call but door might be shut if we recruit somebody else." But always keeping a schol. open kind of destroys credibility of that proposed position- it also means we have a short bench and no back-up big. Do we have any in-roads into JUCO transfers which at least puts a uniform on the bench for the next season? This is not an attack on G but an evaluation of a business paradigm.
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Post by mookie on Dec 30, 2012 11:53:44 GMT -5
Dont really know. But would a player go to a BCS if he knew that a lack of p/t was a reality and that transfering was always a possibility but that it might have to be to Montana A and W instead of a great school like LSU who had the p/t to begin with. Look, most schools are in the transfer market and we should be as well. Its just how u do it. "Always feel free to call but door might be shut if we recruit somebody else." But always keeping a schol. open kind of destroys credibility of that proposed position- it also means we have a short bench and no back-up big. Do we have any in-roads into JUCO transfers which at least puts a uniform on the bench for the next season? This is not an attack on G but an evaluation of a business paradigm. I think you need a little dose of reality. In all honesty: Who the hell is LaSalle? What has LaSalle accomplished to even be viewed as a legit competitor to a BCS school? What media advantages does LaSalle hold over a VTech? What facilities and training advantages does LaSalle hold over a VTech? A kid sees a scholarship offer from VTech and LaSalle on his table and he will immediately see the name brand of VTech. A VTech is on tv regularly. As 88 alluded to many times, it's the glitz and glamor that appeals to them before PT. Only the level headed players will choose a LaSalle and promise of PT over a BCS school (in the situation where a recruit is reaching by choosing a BCS school over their true ability). You also have to remember, a kid that goes to a BCS school and doesn't get much PT is still a bit of celebrity because he is there. LaSalle holds very little credibility on a national level and these kids want that national attention...they want that national characteristic. Kids want to go to the highest level which automatically puts LaSalle at a huge disadvantage from the gate based on brand name, winning tradition/tourney appearances, media, facilities, pro prospects (all sports), and let's face it, girls. A BCS school has thousands upon thousands of girls... Why do you think so many of the higher GPA athletes bypass the Ivy League? Because they have 0 shot of winning a National Championship and only one NCAA birth from that conference. We can argue about conference strength A10 vs some other conference, but then again you have to consider the NCAA Selection Committee who will more often times give more credibility to the BCS schools and/or ACC/Big East schools based on name brand. LaSalle needs more than one year in the NIT to have that kind of credibility. |
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Post by las71 on Dec 30, 2012 11:57:34 GMT -5
Screamer The problem with your point about playing time is that kids either get bad advice about their talent level or they overestimate their ability themselves. If a big time program offers they assume they are going to play there. They believe that wherever they go playing time isn't an issue until they get there and reality sets in. Unfortunately this is the world G must recruit in and he does what he has to do to try and build our program. Too many hangers on are setting these kids up for failure with unrealistic appraisals of where they fit in.
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Post by MisterD on Dec 30, 2012 12:41:36 GMT -5
Also, flip the analogy and have a kid pick Monmouth over La Salle. Do we congratulate him for foresight or label him as someone without the drive to atleast try to succeed in the A-10? There's something, beyond bad advice, to be said about giving it a shot at your highest possible level.
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Post by mookie on Dec 30, 2012 14:58:14 GMT -5
good point misterd
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Post by lasallescreamer on Dec 30, 2012 17:37:05 GMT -5
I appreciate your worthy analysis; I think LSU has more to offer than many of you sem to think. But again, I am not saying dont take transfers; just saying lets keep our dignity while doing it. Anybody out there with a comment on jucos or on having a schol. on ice n case a kid gets homesick? There is way more to this than simply focusing on any individual transfer that we landed.
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Post by mookie on Dec 30, 2012 21:29:35 GMT -5
LaSalle has plenty to offer, but not the glitz and glamor that many of these recruits are looking for. Sorry, but you're being a homer. And LaSalle has kept their dignity in every case and showed class. I'm pretty sure the coach doesn't tell every kid "you can always come home". I'm pretty sure, the kid has to be worth it.
If you can't see or accept that, then there's no need to continue this discussion...
LaSalle doesn't bring in JUCOs because of the academic and acceptance issues...it's more of an admin thing that basically eliminates JUCO transfers...
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Post by lasallescreamer on Dec 31, 2012 2:26:37 GMT -5
Agreed this matter is marked "settled, discontinued and ended"
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