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Post by explorer88 on Feb 13, 2015 21:48:22 GMT -5
Point guard Kamau Stokes is visiting La Salle this weekend according to reports. His stocking is really rising as both Kansas Stats and Ole Miss offered recently.
Looks like he would be a good get but with Stukes and Shuler in tow a bit confusing?
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 13, 2015 21:52:23 GMT -5
On another note, Jaren Sina literally walked off of Seton Hall's team this week. Any chance we have an interest? And Seton Hall hoops is truly insane right now.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Feb 13, 2015 22:32:01 GMT -5
I don't know- kid must be worthwhile if he's agreeing to visit and we kept invite open. But man oh man will it be tough keeping everything clear
I'm not sure I want anything to do with Sina
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Post by casey44 on Feb 13, 2015 23:37:19 GMT -5
I believe that we were the first to offer Sina way back as a fr. in hs. I really think Shuler is gone. The reason he came, and I know nothing about the situation, is that he felt he had a good shot at starting. Obviously in the very brief periods of action, one would have to assume Stukes is the better choice. How can he justify another year behind two other people? G has got to realize this.
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Post by explorerman on Feb 14, 2015 8:44:28 GMT -5
I don't know- kid must be worthwhile if he's agreeing to visit and we kept invite open. But man oh man will it be tough keeping everything clear I'm not sure I want anything to do with Sina Yeah he was always an interesting situation because he had the attitude but he won a lot.. He was athletic enough to get by in AAU and high school but you never knew how that works translate in college.. He logged 30 mins per game at SHU.. Great shooter.. Even he logged in a 38/32% from beyond the arc.. Comparables include Nova's PG... I don't know if he is athletic enough.. I think our offense would improve dramatically with him (because he can shoot that open shot when he gets it) at the 1 but our defense would step back..
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 14, 2015 9:04:37 GMT -5
Very interested in the Sina situation. G loved the kid in high school along with his teamate Domonic Hoffman I believe his name was and offered him as well.
I think he is better suited for MM level. It appears G wants someone for next year so Sina might not be an option for us any way. I also concerned when a kid walks out middle of the season.
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Post by coqui900 on Feb 14, 2015 9:43:01 GMT -5
The Seton Hall thing is weird and I think might be a huge story.
Isiah Whitehas (their star freshman guard) and an upperclassmen Gibbs got into it on the court last week. The game ended and Sina (who the message board mill says is Gibbs' roommate) literally left the team right after the game.
Speculation is that there. Is a major locker room riff. Whitehead and the other freshmen are from Coney Island and/or a an AAU program put together by former Lincoln High/current Hall assistant Tiny Morton. Sina comes from a NJ prep school. He told a reporter it wasn't "safe" for him to play there anymore.
It sounds like a bullying/threat/etc.
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Post by blueandgold on Feb 14, 2015 9:45:25 GMT -5
when I first saw this thread, I thought someone had just butchered Amar Stukes' name.
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Post by MisterD on Feb 14, 2015 9:56:45 GMT -5
I also concerned when a kid walks out middle of the season. Current NCAA rules incentivize leaving as soon as you're certain you want out, middle of the season or not. Add in the Whitehead situation (his AAU coach was given a position on the staff, I believe) and Gibbs fight and simply walking away could easily be construed as the mature reaction.
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Post by mookie on Feb 14, 2015 10:32:39 GMT -5
I know very little about Shuler but always felt he was a change of pace PG and more of a backup with how G hyped up stukes. I don't fully believe stukes is the kind of guard that can truly orchestrate the offense. That said, I'm not against over recruiting Shuler.
If Shuler is a similar player to stukes but not as good then he's completely replaceable. But if it's simply a matter of him not being physically ready then it's a different story.
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Post by lasalle89 on Feb 14, 2015 10:46:10 GMT -5
We need quality players. Period. I don't care what position. If you can play then you will find a way on the floor. Shuler is a freshman and will be better next year for having played a year at this level. He now knows exactly what he needs to improve. Right now Stukes and Lewis are the better players. This is the big boy league. You don't get equal participation just for being on the team.
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Post by explorer88 on Feb 14, 2015 10:57:46 GMT -5
I also concerned when a kid walks out middle of the season. Current NCAA rules incentivize leaving as soon as you're certain you want out, middle of the season or not. Add in the Whitehead situation (his AAU coach was given a position on the staff, I believe) and Gibbs fight and simply walking away could easily be construed as the mature reaction. If it was that had than perhaps. However, that is unknown and would be investigated by any coach with half a brain looking into recruiting him now.
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Post by mookie on Feb 14, 2015 12:03:05 GMT -5
I just google this kid and found he had verballed to Toledo early in 2014. Anybody know what happened?
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Post by casey44 on Feb 14, 2015 12:54:05 GMT -5
I saw that too Mookie and linked onto a Toledo forum. I believe it had to do with a coaching change. The writer was bemoaning the lack of a future pg and that's what I got out of it.
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Feb 14, 2015 13:30:43 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 1, 2015 9:40:23 GMT -5
Stokes committed to Kansas State yesterday..
Another miss for G and the staff. We are really struggling with recruiting right now. Kid would have been a great get for us.
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Post by 1stflooredwards on Mar 1, 2015 10:03:57 GMT -5
Stokes committed to Kansas State yesterday.. Another miss for G and the staff. We are really struggling with recruiting right now. Kid would have been a great get for us. Where are they missing more these days, recruiting or at the foul line?
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Post by mookie on Mar 1, 2015 10:24:15 GMT -5
Stokes committed to Kansas State yesterday.. Another miss for G and the staff. We are really struggling with recruiting right now. Kid would have been a great get for us. We don't get my Ntional exposure and when we do those long scoring droughts and deficits make us look like a poor choice as if we're one of those teams bigger schools schedule in order to tune up for the season. I hate to mention it because generally I tend to stay away from harping on it, but the fact that big schools won't come here and we can't "show off" quality facilities is a huge hindrance unless we win those nationally televised games
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Post by mookie on Mar 1, 2015 10:27:36 GMT -5
On another note, FGCU has been able to capitalize on their exposure. Doesn't hurt they have great facilities and larger funding but they made the choice to invest in the athletics program a few years prior to their run and it's paying off
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Post by broderickpresident on Mar 1, 2015 10:30:14 GMT -5
Stokes committed to Kansas State yesterday.. Another miss for G and the staff. We are really struggling with recruiting right now. Kid would have been a great get for us. Where are they missing more these days, recruiting or at the foul line? I can handle missing on out of town kids, but the lack of local recruiting is really troubling to me. Next year, Stukes & Lewis will be the only 2 scholarship players from the Philly metro area. This issue has kinda snuck up on us, as we had a successful run bringing in players like Green, Murray, Duren, Wright (and then supplementing them with transfers back to home like Pettis, Galloway, Garland), but we've hit a real dry spell. Thankfully, Price and Roberts are of a quality that we generally don't bring in from so far away, but this program cannot sustain itself without attracting more quality local recruits. We don't have enough to offer most out of town recruits being looked by majors. Where we can have a leg up on these bigger schools is offering local kids the chance to play in front of friends and family. I'd have to imagine next year's team will have less of a local flavor than just about any in La Salle history, especially when weighing the impact of local players on the team.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Mar 1, 2015 11:20:36 GMT -5
Where are they missing more these days, recruiting or at the foul line? I can handle missing on out of town kids, but the lack of local recruiting is really troubling to me. Next year, Stukes & Lewis will be the only 2 scholarship players from the Philly metro area. This issue has kinda snuck up on us, as we had a successful run bringing in players like Green, Murray, Duren, Wright (and then supplementing them with transfers back to home like Pettis, Galloway, Garland), but we've hit a real dry spell. Thankfully, Price and Roberts are of a quality that we generally don't bring in from so far away, but this program cannot sustain itself without attracting more quality local recruits. We don't have enough to offer most out of town recruits being looked by majors. Where we can have a leg up on these bigger schools is offering local kids the chance to play in front of friends and family. I'd have to imagine next year's team will have less of a local flavor than just about any in La Salle history, especially when weighing the impact of local players on the team. This...this led to Martelli's downfall after their 2004 Elite 8 run...he failed to maintain strong ties with the local hoops community. We should always strive to maintain a strong pipeline locally...Branch out, as needed, but don't ever let this areas talent and ties dry up.
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Post by broderickpresident on Mar 1, 2015 11:52:41 GMT -5
I can handle missing on out of town kids, but the lack of local recruiting is really troubling to me. Next year, Stukes & Lewis will be the only 2 scholarship players from the Philly metro area. This issue has kinda snuck up on us, as we had a successful run bringing in players like Green, Murray, Duren, Wright (and then supplementing them with transfers back to home like Pettis, Galloway, Garland), but we've hit a real dry spell. Thankfully, Price and Roberts are of a quality that we generally don't bring in from so far away, but this program cannot sustain itself without attracting more quality local recruits. We don't have enough to offer most out of town recruits being looked by majors. Where we can have a leg up on these bigger schools is offering local kids the chance to play in front of friends and family. I'd have to imagine next year's team will have less of a local flavor than just about any in La Salle history, especially when weighing the impact of local players on the team. This...this led to Martelli's downfall after their 2004 Elite 8 run...he failed to maintain strong ties with the local hoops community. We should always strive to maintain a strong pipeline locally...Branch out, as needed, but don't ever let this areas talent and ties dry up. The Pat Chambers hire at PSU did us no favors. For decades, PSU had largely ignored Philly, but now they seem to be targeting the A-10/Big East level players in the area, which is making an already-crowded recruiting scene even busier.
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 1, 2015 12:55:31 GMT -5
This...this led to Martelli's downfall after their 2004 Elite 8 run...he failed to maintain strong ties with the local hoops community. We should always strive to maintain a strong pipeline locally...Branch out, as needed, but don't ever let this areas talent and ties dry up. The Pat Chambers hire at PSU did us no favors. For decades, PSU had largely ignored Philly, but now they seem to be targeting the A-10/Big East level players in the area, which is making an already-crowded recruiting scene even busier. Great point. And when you are battling these programs with a junior high gym you end up failing more than succeeding. Poor coaching or not. We need more talent and are not getting it right now.
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Post by cpico on Mar 1, 2015 13:32:52 GMT -5
The Pat Chambers hire at PSU did us no favors. For decades, PSU had largely ignored Philly, but now they seem to be targeting the A-10/Big East level players in the area, which is making an already-crowded recruiting scene even busier. Great point. And when you are battling these programs with a junior high gym you end up failing more than succeeding. Poor coaching or not. We need more talent and are not getting it right now. And add to that the program laying a big egg last season when we were supposed to be a top team in the A-10 and now the closing out of this season the way we are and you have the recruiting we've seen. Last year's disaster coming off a Sweet 16 appearance really, really hurt recruiting.
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Post by milkoliverwurst on Mar 1, 2015 13:59:38 GMT -5
Do we have anyone coming in next season besides Yevgen and Karl Harris? I believe I read the plan for Harris was to redshirt. Shuler should get a lot of minutes if he stays but even with him it seems we are going to be awfully thin. We barely have a bench now.
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Post by baskets123 on Mar 1, 2015 14:11:51 GMT -5
Great point. And when you are battling these programs with a junior high gym you end up failing more than succeeding. Poor coaching or not. We need more talent and are not getting it right now. And add to that the program laying a big egg last season when we were supposed to be a top team in the A-10 and now the closing out of this season the way we are and you have the recruiting we've seen. Last year's disaster coming off a Sweet 16 appearance really, really hurt recruiting. Actually great recruiting year we got price Roberts and Stukes all starters
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Post by explorer88 on Mar 1, 2015 14:17:49 GMT -5
And add to that the program laying a big egg last season when we were supposed to be a top team in the A-10 and now the closing out of this season the way we are and you have the recruiting we've seen. Last year's disaster coming off a Sweet 16 appearance really, really hurt recruiting. Actually great recruiting year we got price Roberts and Stukes all starters Starters on sub-500 A-10 team this year and almost certainty sub-500 team A-10 next year. No way you can call that a great recruiting year.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 1, 2015 14:23:06 GMT -5
On another note, FGCU has been able to capitalize on their exposure. Doesn't hurt they have great facilities and larger funding but they made the choice to invest in the athletics program a few years prior to their run and it's paying off I'm sure we would could sit in 2nd place in the Atlantic Sun as well. Non-comp.
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Post by cpico on Mar 1, 2015 14:54:10 GMT -5
And add to that the program laying a big egg last season when we were supposed to be a top team in the A-10 and now the closing out of this season the way we are and you have the recruiting we've seen. Last year's disaster coming off a Sweet 16 appearance really, really hurt recruiting. Actually great recruiting year we got price Roberts and Stukes all starters Actually they were all committed prior to last year's debacle. They were all on campus last year during the debacle. Just fyi.
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Post by mookie on Mar 1, 2015 14:55:28 GMT -5
On another note, FGCU has been able to capitalize on their exposure. Doesn't hurt they have great facilities and larger funding but they made the choice to invest in the athletics program a few years prior to their run and it's paying off I'm sure we would could sit in 2nd place in the Atlantic Sun as well. Non-comp. We just lost to Fordham and St Louis. we also lost to George Mason I'm pretty sure Florida Gulf Coast would have beat all of them.
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