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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 31, 2014 10:23:21 GMT -5
I never put one of these up for December, but now that we're on the eve of Conference play, definitely wanted to put one up for January. A few A-10 teams finishing up their non-con today (after today, I believe the only non-conference game left in the conference is St. Joe's-Penn a few weeks from now).
Obviously overall records don't mean much, and they'll change after today, but here's where everything stand as of now.
Dayton 10-2
Davidson 9-2
George Washington 10-3
Virginia Commonwealth 10-3
Rhode Island 7-3
Saint Louis 8-4
St. Bonaventure 7-4
La Salle 8-5
Richmond 7-5
Saint Joseph's 6-5
Massachusetts 7-6
Duquesne 5-6
George Mason 5-6
Fordham 4-6
VCU is one of the first teams out of the Top 25, and GW has grabbed a few votes as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:47:13 GMT -5
Davidson lost their big man Jake Belford for the year I believe. They also were missing a starter vs. UVA because of a concussion. Despite all of that, they played UVA the best of any opponent this year and had a halftime lead, in addition to putting 70 something up on them. They could be a tough one.
Dayton lost 2 bigs, it'll be interesting how their depth holds up because of that.
Bonnies just gave Delaware their first win of the year last night, not good for A 10. Those top 5 teams are probably the scariest to me right now, with SLU and UMass right behind. That 7 footer from Bonnaventure is scary as well as he killed us last year, but I think we can beat them.
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Post by a10champion15 on Dec 31, 2014 11:13:39 GMT -5
In terms of RPI currently as the OOC wraps up
4 VCU
16 Dayton
25 George Washington
44 Massachusetts
54 Rhode Island
59 Davidson
86 La Salle
106 Richmond
138 Saint Joseph's
143 George Mason
209 St. Bonaventure
228 Fordham
261 Saint Louis
269 Duquesne
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Post by theneumann64 on Dec 31, 2014 18:19:22 GMT -5
Wrapping up the last day of non-conference games:
Richmond loses at home to Northeastern by 1.
URI beats Brown by 20.
SLU loses to Vandy by 15.
Fordham beats South Carolina State by 20
Mason down big to number 18 OKlahoma mid-way through the 2nd Half.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 18:48:24 GMT -5
George Mason just lost at Oklahoma.61-43. They looked bad. Went 0-14 from 3.
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Post by vasalos on Dec 31, 2014 19:40:01 GMT -5
URI really needed Nebraska to be Indiana today. That win over Nebraska doesn't look so impressive anymore. URI could be a bit overrated entering conference play.
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Post by jellybean on Jan 3, 2015 10:26:44 GMT -5
I compared the Pre-Season Coaches Poll versus the current standings (using winning percentages). Added Best Win, Bad Loss, Kenpom AdjO, Kenpom AdjD and Tempo.
1. VCU 10-3 T3 Best W - Northern Iowa Bad L none 14-48-68 Their 3 L's are to UVA, Nova and ODU.
2. GW 10-3 T3 Best W - Charlotte? Bad L none 137-10-191 Their 3 losses were to teams in Top 35
3. DAY 10-2 1 Best W - Ga. Tech? Bad L UCONN? 98-47-196
4.UMASS 7-6 T10 Best W - N'eastern? Bad L Fl GC 81-110-27 4 L's to top 40
5.RICH 7-6 T10 Best W - none Bad L JMU 116-131-346 Virtually all W's over 255 or worse
6. URI 8-3 5 Best W - NEB #119 Bad L none 107-35-242 3 L's to top 40
7. LAS 8-5 7 Best W - none Bad L Amer. U 114-63-132 3 L's to top 30 but no W's to 179 or better
8. SJU 6-5 9 Best W - Temple #30 Bad L Denver 166-95-259 FDU was bad but now they are #133 DEN is #186
9. SLU 8-5 8 Best W - none Bad L a few 279-191-256 Lost to #319 TX A&M CC and 8-0 vs. 249 and lower
10.SBU 7-4 6 Best W - Buffalo #37 Bad L DEL #328 112-156-49 Also L to #240 Siena and MD- Eastern Shore
11.DUQ 5-6 T12 Best W - UM-Lowell #160 Bad L R.Morris 124-327-44 Also L to #199 NJIT
12.DAV 9-2 2 Best W - Charlotte? Bad L none 7-227-15 Lost to UVA and UNC both in Top 15
13.GMU 5-7 14 Best W - Iona? Bad L Cornell 198-159-116 Lost to 3 Top 20's and at Okla.
14.FORD 5-6 T12 Best W - Monmouth #235? Bad L a few 256-221-177 Lost to #311 Manhattan and #172 MD-East. Shore
The A10 was 0-4 versus Virginia ( La Salle,GW, VCU and Davidson). Maryland-ES was 3-1 with wins over Fordham,SBU and Duquesne. They lost to VCU.
My apology to GW. I forgot about their huge win over Wichita State.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 14:49:45 GMT -5
Dayton is taking Duquesne apart 81-55 with a minute left. Also, not the A-10 but Seton Hall beat Villanova in OT.
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Post by blueandgold on Jan 3, 2015 16:49:02 GMT -5
I compared the Pre-Season Coaches Poll versus the current standings (using winning percentages). Added Best Win, Bad Loss, Kenpom AdjO, Kenpom AdjD and Tempo. 1. VCU 10-3 T3 Best W - Northern Iowa Bad L none 14-48-68 Their 3 L's are to UVA, Nova and ODU. 2. GW 10-3 T3 Best W - Charlotte? Bad L none 137-10-191 Their 3 losses were to teams in Top 35 3. DAY 10-2 1 Best W - Ga. Tech? Bad L UCONN? 98-47-196 4.UMASS 7-6 T10 Best W - N'eastern? Bad L Fl GC 81-110-27 4 L's to top 40 5.RICH 7-6 T10 Best W - none Bad L JMU 116-131-346 Virtually all W's over 255 or worse 6. URI 8-3 5 Best W - NEB #119 Bad L none 107-35-242 3 L's to top 40 7. LAS 8-5 7 Best W - none Bad L Amer. U 114-63-132 3 L's to top 30 but no W's to 179 or better 8. SJU 6-5 9 Best W - Temple #30 Bad L Denver 166-95-259 FDU was bad but now they are #133 DEN is #186 9. SLU 8-5 8 Best W - none Bad L a few 279-191-256 Lost to #319 TX A&M CC and 8-0 vs. 249 and lower 10.SBU 7-4 6 Best W - Buffalo #37 Bad L DEL #328 112-156-49 Also L to #240 Siena and MD- Eastern Shore 11.DUQ 5-6 T12 Best W - UM-Lowell #160 Bad L R.Morris 124-327-44 Also L to #199 NJIT 12.DAV 9-2 2 Best W - Charlotte? Bad L none 7-227-15 Lost to UVA and UNC both in Top 15 13.GMU 5-7 14 Best W - Iona? Bad L Cornell 198-159-116 Lost to 3 Top 20's and at Okla. 14.FORD 5-6 T12 Best W - Monmouth #235? Bad L a few 256-221-177 Lost to #311 Manhattan and #172 MD-East. Shore The A10 was 0-4 versus Virginia ( La Salle,GW, VCU and Davidson). Maryland-ES was 3-1 with wins over Fordham,SBU and Duquesne. They lost to VCU. Good work, Jellybean. This further supports the consensus opinion among professional and amateur pundits that the A-10 is going to be more of a 3-bid league this year. When best wins include former A-10 teams that are not in necessarily "better" conferences and only 3 or 4 teams enter an expanded 18-game conference schedule with a couple of losses - going to be tough to garner more than three bids (not that that is a bad number, all things considered). I am now more nervous for the game at G Mason tonight. We really do not know what to expect from Mason, but the analysis above says they are about the same as La Salle. I am curious to see how Davidson fares in conference play. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 3, 2015 17:18:02 GMT -5
VCU Dayton and GW all have quality wins and all are top 25 RPI currently. Have wins over....
Cincy, Oregon, UNI, Colorado, Wichita State, Ole Miss, GT, Charlotte, and Texas A&M.
Davidson is 10-2 with a win over Charlotte as well. URI has a win over Nebraska which should look better come the end of the season.
A10 is the 7th best conference same as the 2012-2013 year where we had 5 teams get into the tournament. Due to the A10 being 18 games things need to fall perfectly for 5 even though NBC Sports thinks were 5 bids this season. I say 4 and maybe a team wins the A10 tournament that was on the bubble.
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 5, 2015 13:04:08 GMT -5
There are currently 6 teams in the top 64 and 5 in the top 45 in rpi going into conference play. The cream will continue to rise to the top in A10 play so I couldn't imagine that it is impossible or even improbable that 5 get in. Always a chance for a Cinderella A10 tournament winner like you said.
My end of year prediction is for the following teams getting an invite:
1.VCU
2.Dayton
3.GW
4.URI
5.Davidson
La Salle is on the outside but our schedule lines up MANY (7) opportunities for top #65 wins. If we go 4-3 it gets really exciting again. That said I personally think we will be relying on a A10 tournament win to get into the post season when all is said an done in the A10.
I also think everyone needs to look out for the Bonnies in conference play. They will lose some tough road games to bad teams but can beat Dayton at home after the long cold drive up to Olean on Wednesday. The Bonnies are a well rounded team, not too deep but have five players averaging 10+ points a game and Ndoye is much improved. He leads the conference in rebounds (4th in the country) and blocks while transfer Posley just passed Price for top scorer in the conference. They have shown they can beat good teams with wins against UMASS and Buffalo (48). Like us last year, their biggest loss has been by 5 points. If not us by default, they are my sleeper pick for the conference tournament winner.
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Post by 23won on Jan 5, 2015 15:40:50 GMT -5
I agree with the initial premis Cali, as I never thought we could beat the Bonnies in Olean this year. I agree that the press underestimates SBU generally and this year is no exception. They have talent, good guard play, nice bigs and Schmidt is a great coach, but I honestly don't see them winning the A10 tourney. Could happen, but unlikely IMO
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 5, 2015 16:07:52 GMT -5
I agree with the initial premis Cali, as I never thought we could beat the Bonnies in Olean this year. I agree that the press underestimates SBU generally and this year is no exception. They have talent, good guard play, nice bigs and Schmidt is a great coach, but I honestly don't see them winning the A10 tourney. Could happen, but unlikely IMO I am a big Mark Schmidt fan. He is a very good coach. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 5, 2015 16:12:30 GMT -5
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 5, 2015 16:29:44 GMT -5
I was told Schmidt has never beaten an A-10 level or higher school head to head in recruiting a player both schools wanted. Pretty amazing he has kept the Bonnies competitive if that fact is indeed true. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 5, 2015 16:34:25 GMT -5
Sure, but is that because he's a bad recruiter or because Olean, NY is likely a really, really, really tough sell?
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 5, 2015 16:36:18 GMT -5
Sure, but is that because he's a bad recruiter or because Olean, NY is likely a really, really, really tough sell? The truth is probably somewhere in between. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 5, 2015 16:43:36 GMT -5
Google says its a 90 minute, 75 mile trip to the nearest airport (Buffalo). Simply filling out a 12 player roster seems impressive to me.
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Jan 5, 2015 16:49:20 GMT -5
Sure, but is that because he's a bad recruiter or because Olean, NY is likely a really, really, really tough sell? The truth is probably somewhere in between. Sure, but leaning very hard on the sell side...no? I wouldn't have gone there. |
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Post by MisterD on Jan 5, 2015 16:56:42 GMT -5
And this is "when competing with other A-10 teams", so you can't sell the conference either. Its near impossible.
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Post by calidelphia on Jan 5, 2015 17:17:48 GMT -5
I agree with the initial premis Cali, as I never thought we could beat the Bonnies in Olean this year. I agree that the press underestimates SBU generally and this year is no exception. They have talent, good guard play, nice bigs and Schmidt is a great coach, but I honestly don't see them winning the A10 tourney. Could happen, but unlikely IMO I don't think it will happen just more probable then most give them credit for. If not VCU, GW, Dayton or URI I would put them next. Let's call them my dark horse. Probably the toughest school to recruit for in the A10 right now, maybe Fordham then us. Your sell is the education, the buy in from coaches, playing time team culture etc. It's got to be tough to deal with as many away games as they have by the end of the year. probably why Schmidt schedule 6 home games to start. |
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Jan 5, 2015 17:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 5, 2015 19:00:52 GMT -5
While Schmidt is probably one of the best x and o coaches in the A10 is recruiting is subpar. They are always a dangerous team. Playing in Olean is no easy task and Schmidt to credit for that to a degree. Schmidt can coach with the best of them and develop players extremely well. However, the talent on that team isn't up to par with the rest of the conference. He alone wins them most of their games. However, despite this every non con over the past several season he picks up a terrible lose to. They looked good for most of the noncon until they lost to UMES and a god awful Delaware team. There really isn't much of excuse for that and Bonnie fans aren't thrilled with him either.
Mooney and Kellogg are also coaches who teams should be much better than they are right now. Both schools have all the resources in the world. Kellogg is only an okay X and O coach and Mooney can't recruit at the level he should.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 7, 2015 14:54:23 GMT -5
GW came back and edged St. Louis last night.
Tonight (in addition to our game), we've got VCU-Davidson, which should be interesting, Fordham-URI, and St. Joe's-Duquesne.
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 7, 2015 15:08:02 GMT -5
Anybody else intrigued by Davidson? I know it's not the program it once was when Steph Curry was leading them to the Elite 8, but I'm impressed by what they've done in the nonleague schedule, and I have to believe they aren't a fluke...
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Post by explorer88 on Jan 7, 2015 16:22:33 GMT -5
Anybody else intrigued by Davidson? I know it's not the program it once was when Steph Curry was leading them to the Elite 8, but I'm impressed by what they've done in the nonleague schedule, and I have to believe they aren't a fluke... I agree. Well -coached team with a very good player in Jack Gibbs. When you get good looks at the basket you can overcome a lot of things. Unlike us who need to grind out a lot of baskets. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 7, 2015 21:10:58 GMT -5
VCU beat Davidson by 6.
Duquesne beat St. Joe's by 3.
URI over Fordham.
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Post by theneumann64 on Jan 9, 2015 19:25:08 GMT -5
Last night, Dayton beat the Bonnies (Dayton now 12-2) and Richmond beat Mason.
This weekend's games (besides our own):
Tomorrow:
URI-Duquesne (1PM)
St. Joes-VCU (2PM, CBSSN)
Dayton-Fordham (7PM)
SLU- Davidson (7PM)
Sunday:
UMass-Mason (1PM)
Bonnies-Richmond (3PM)
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Post by a10champion15 on Jan 15, 2015 22:08:10 GMT -5
GW beats UR in double OT
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Post by thelasallelunatic on Jan 19, 2015 21:38:28 GMT -5
Not A10, but Big 5...Nova is getting destroyed by Georgetown...down 19 late in the 1st half. This is after an underwhelming performance at Penn the other night. Are the Kitties a tad bit overrrated? I think so.
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