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Post by blueandgold on Nov 29, 2014 0:19:45 GMT -5
Let's see how this team responds Saturday night. Forget whether this was a moral victory for the team itself. As a fan, they hung with a Top 10 til the final minute. After we spent the last 8+ months wondering if this team would even be a .500 club, I'm looking forward to the next 4 months of La Salle basketball.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 29, 2014 0:21:50 GMT -5
I'll take credit for the comeback. I decided to go for a quick walk in the second half. I saw they were coming back and decided to extend my walk until the game was over. I'm in Upstate NY and it's 12 degrees here. #Hero I didnt watch the 2nd half and followed on score-center... It was a team effort tonight. Team needs to find another 3pt consistent threat - I think Roberts is that guy, but he needs to get going. 4 guards is definitely the way for this group to play it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 0:23:52 GMT -5
Watchedo the game on record so I'm late coming on site and it's probably been said before, but I am really proud of this team. What a second half. This team has a lot of potential especially with the heart that they showed tonight.
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Post by casey44 on Nov 29, 2014 0:53:38 GMT -5
Worried about Vanderbilt I think they got the short end of it from the refs. I really don't think this is the time for G to talk up a loss. If Wright wasn't hurt then it was his worst effort at LSU. We are lucky to get 15 min. out of him anymore. He's going to continue to be the first order of business of every team we play and his body language seems to show that he'd doesn't mind the bench all that much.
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Post by theneumann64 on Nov 29, 2014 3:29:15 GMT -5
Al is gone. This place is at its absolute worst when it becomes about one person. And the fact that he acknowledged he doesn't read threads after he posts, so he basically just posts his nonsense and then leaves, means he just wants everyone to read his negative schtick, he doesn't want to actually have a discussion. Well, he can do that on the Philly.com comments section.
First game thread he actually posts in during the game is the one we're most likely to struggle in. And the font thing continuing after he was told about it last night. It's time. Bon voyage.
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Post by ltrain38 on Nov 29, 2014 4:22:58 GMT -5
I agree with blueandgold. I didn't really expect that we'd have much of a chance in this game and the first half did nothing to ease my concern. Then the guys came out and proved they could play with top teams. I'm not afraid of anyone on the schedule now and as long as there's no hangover loss today, I think we're likely to have a good season. This is a talented team, Jordan Price is going to be dominant for us. Yeah, I'm a little disappointed because better FT shooting and we might have won. But they proved to me that 4-0 was more than just beating bad teams. I hope the players came away with the same confidence.
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Post by Xwalkonx on Nov 29, 2014 6:41:38 GMT -5
Proud of the guys.
If they hadn't dug themselves in such a ditch in the 1st half, this one was amazingly winnable. This is certainly something to be proud of, considering the level of this Virginia team. Beat Vandy.
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Post by big5explorer on Nov 29, 2014 8:24:27 GMT -5
Anyone notice who was on the bench for much of the 2nd half comeback? Hint: He was injured & out for the NCAA tourney run 2 years ago.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 29, 2014 8:34:04 GMT -5
Worried about Vanderbilt I think they got the short end of it from the refs. I really don't think this is the time for G to talk up a loss. If Wright wasn't hurt then it was his worst effort at LSU. We are lucky to get 15 min. out of him anymore. He's going to continue to be the first order of business of every team we play and his body language seems to show that he'd doesn't mind the bench all that much. Agree about Vandy's treatment by the refs. I think Vandy could easily beat us. After watching them last night I think their vulnerability is their young guards. This is an area we might have the overall edge. As to Jerrell my take is that he might have been putting too much pressure on himself- maybe taking that Senior leadership thing too much to heart. What we saw last night was as a lot of frustration. Va started that game with such suffocating D our guys did not seem to know what hit them. Jerrel in particular was victimzed by collapsing D and double teams. Hope the coaches can help him with an antidote to this. Nice to see him contribute in the 2nd half.
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Post by cpico on Nov 29, 2014 8:43:53 GMT -5
Very happy with the effort by the team in the second half last night. They really faught and didn't just roll over when Virginia went up big. They showed guts against a very good UVA team. Hopefully they bring that effort and beat Vandy tonight. Shocked Vandy lost to Rutgers.
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Post by lwc4591 on Nov 29, 2014 9:31:49 GMT -5
Very good effort last night but up comes the most important game of the season, Vandy. Lose this game a we may be looking at a three or four game losing streak, win and I think we go on to a very good season. Wishing for a 10-3 OOC finish which gives us a great opportunity for a season which many of us probably never saw coming. Price and Lewis played really good games last night and Zack and Roberts also were pluses. Wright simply was wrong last night but he will bounce back like he always does.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 29, 2014 12:37:23 GMT -5
So can we shut up about shit talking Khalid or are we going to still piss and moan I dont understand why you cant realize people aren't saying he's not good and that he's terrible... He's not a starting point guard though... There are a number of posters who called him below average, a liability on offense and just not a good point guard in general. It is not a big deal. Lewis has put this to bed. He is much improved and such an awesome defender. Great effort last night. Couldn't believe they came back. This loss doesn't really to be a real upsetting lose for the team and our fans.
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Post by calsufan on Nov 29, 2014 13:58:06 GMT -5
Oh Al. You sad, pathetic little excuse for an adult.
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Post by calsufan on Nov 29, 2014 14:00:45 GMT -5
As others said earlier, Vanderbilt will be no push over. I saw them play Rutgers and i thought they were clearly more talented and better coached than Rutgers. The game just got away from them at the end. It happens. La Salle will have to play better on the inside if they want to win this one.
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Post by explorerman on Nov 29, 2014 14:05:21 GMT -5
Couldn't say how much prouder I am of the guys.
It is amazing to think how this team battled back in the second half. Really it is funny to think that a team could play like a middle of the pack conference team looking like a CBI invitee one half and the other look like a bonfire NCAA Tournament team in the second half.
The difference wasn't UVA playing inferior bench players it was obviously our style. Opening the offense to 4 guards allowed for more penetration and more spacing. We were obviously killed on the boards in the second BUT we were killed on the boards in the first half also.
Now the question is whether G will allow this team do it is the million dollar problem (NCAA Units).
Even with G's well documented struggles with in game coaching, he has to now recognize what works with this team and what puts this team in the best position to succeed.
Roberts had some ugly moments but he also some fantastic basketball plays. He is a very good rebounder and did a great job boxing out Gill who is killed Wright and Zack on the board for an important rebound to keep our mid 2nd half run going.
Lewis played fine and unfortunately had some killer turnovers. He continues to impress on the defensive end but simply dribbles way too much (street ball) which needs to stop. I would rather him cross over once and just force his way and draw contact (like Price did) in than try to triple cross over with a cut to his weak hand (I would rather him to just get the ball to Price or Roberts in that situation but sometimes you don't have that option).
I am not saying this was G's fault that we lost but what I will say that even to our novice basketball posters on here that there can not be anymore evidence needed to conclude this team is best served with 4 guards all the time and allow for pick and roll guard penetration to be the main offensive set. Price, Stukes and Roberts all have shown the ability to get shots from it. Let our guard depth allow us to press and play a higher pace game.
This will allow us to attack teams. Instead of us trying to play not to lose. The first half shows that happens when you play not to lose. Good teams simply capitalize. But when you are the puncher, you will have mistakes, but you put them on their toes and do not allow them to settle him and attack.
Go La Salle
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 29, 2014 14:15:28 GMT -5
Explorerman I agree with a lot of your points. I remember saying during the Quinn game this team just simple functions better in a 4 guard line up. I like for Shuler to get more time when opportunities present themself. I do not really get why your much more critical of Lewis than Roberts. Roberts has showed us some of his abilities and I think he is a player that will improve but he made a number of critical mistakes last night not that Lewis didn't but Lewis looked like a much better player from beginning to end of that game compared to Cleon.
I have a lot of faith in this team. Right now they look like they will be in the thick of it when A10 play comes.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 29, 2014 15:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by mookie on Nov 29, 2014 16:04:28 GMT -5
Explorerman I agree with a lot of your points. I remember saying during the Quinn game this team just simple functions better in a 4 guard line up. I like for Shuler to get more time when opportunities present themself. I do not really get why your much more critical of Lewis than Roberts. Roberts has showed us some of his abilities and I think he is a player that will improve but he made a number of critical mistakes last night not that Lewis didn't but Lewis looked like a much better player from beginning to end of that game compared to Cleon. I have a lot of faith in this team. Right now they look like they will be in the thick of it when A10 play comes. I dont completely agree with you on Lewis. I like him better in a backup role or in games where we need someone who can slash to the basket. I think he's definitely improved over last season which probably could've been due to his injury. I agree with you that it looks like we are a better 4 guard team as opposed to the traditional lineup. It's unfortunate because both big are very talented and produce. Maybe there's an alternative where the team starts with 4 guards and then moves towards a traditional lineup throughout the game. I think this team has the horses and should force teams to adapt to them as opposed to us playing to the opposing teams' style or match ups.
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Post by milkoliverwurst on Nov 29, 2014 17:07:44 GMT -5
I know it was done with different players but they made their tournament run with a 4 guard lineup. You can win games that way. It's clear to me that this is the best option for now. I like what Stukes has brought to the court and he has earned some minutes. I'd also like to see more Johnnie Shuler.
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Post by a10champion15 on Nov 29, 2014 18:59:50 GMT -5
Explorerman I agree with a lot of your points. I remember saying during the Quinn game this team just simple functions better in a 4 guard line up. I like for Shuler to get more time when opportunities present themself. I do not really get why your much more critical of Lewis than Roberts. Roberts has showed us some of his abilities and I think he is a player that will improve but he made a number of critical mistakes last night not that Lewis didn't but Lewis looked like a much better player from beginning to end of that game compared to Cleon. I have a lot of faith in this team. Right now they look like they will be in the thick of it when A10 play comes. I dont completely agree with you on Lewis. I like him better in a backup role or in games where we need someone who can slash to the basket. I think he's definitely improved over last season which probably could've been due to his injury. I agree with you that it looks like we are a better 4 guard team as opposed to the traditional lineup. It's unfortunate because both big are very talented and produce. Maybe there's an alternative where the team starts with 4 guards and then moves towards a traditional lineup throughout the game. I think this team has the horses and should force teams to adapt to them as opposed to us playing to the opposing teams' style or match ups. I'll take that. Will have to see. One thing G got to do is limit Browns minutes. Absolutely terrifies me on the court.
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Post by mookie on Nov 29, 2014 19:05:07 GMT -5
I dont completely agree with you on Lewis. I like him better in a backup role or in games where we need someone who can slash to the basket. I think he's definitely improved over last season which probably could've been due to his injury. I agree with you that it looks like we are a better 4 guard team as opposed to the traditional lineup. It's unfortunate because both big are very talented and produce. Maybe there's an alternative where the team starts with 4 guards and then moves towards a traditional lineup throughout the game. I think this team has the horses and should force teams to adapt to them as opposed to us playing to the opposing teams' style or match ups. I'll take that. Will have to see. One thing G got to do is limit Browns minutes. Absolutely terrifies me on the court. Lol...brown doesn't totally terrify me but I'd prefer we not need to use him
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Post by belfieldhappyhour on Dec 21, 2014 13:18:12 GMT -5
Didn't know where to post this, so I dug up this thread. UVA just held Harvard to 1, yes ONE!, basket in the first half. It was 39-8 at halftime
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Post by JoeFedorowicz on Dec 21, 2014 13:49:40 GMT -5
They went 19:55 without a field goal. Scored at 16:33 in first, scored in 16:38 in second.
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Post by explorer88 on Dec 21, 2014 13:56:58 GMT -5
They went 19:55 without a field goal. Scored at 16:33 in first, scored in 16:38 in second. That is simply incredible.
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Post by big5vet on Dec 21, 2014 14:58:13 GMT -5
Didn't know where to post this, so I dug up this thread. UVA just held Harvard to 1, yes ONE!, basket in the first half. It was 39-8 at halftime Factoid. Just looked at Virginia 11 - 0 record thus far. The 64 - 56 defeat La Salle suffered versus the Cavaliers is the closest Virginia has come to losing a game!
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