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Post by 23won on Oct 31, 2014 9:16:48 GMT -5
Based on the official roster www.goexplorers.com/roster.aspx?path=mbballJermaine is not listed on the team. Two questions: 1) is he gone for good? 2) does this give us another 'ship to award for this year's class (or for a transfer)?
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Oct 31, 2014 9:45:03 GMT -5
If this is true, I suspect his weight contributed greatly. I recall a Villanova player (can't remember who) who lost like 30 lbs or so. He gained a lot of speed and resulted in him getting much, much more playing time. If i wasn't so darn old I'd remember who it was.
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Post by a10champion15 on Oct 31, 2014 10:21:18 GMT -5
No surprise there. Wish the kid the best of luck. It should open up another scholarship.
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Post by scarletexplorer on Oct 31, 2014 10:50:06 GMT -5
Interesting. On the one hand, I feel bad for Jermaine and wish him well, whatever the reason was (if he is in fact gone).
On the other hand, I don't know if he was ever going to see much playing time down the road. I'll be interested to see how the scholarship is used. Wouldn't mind seeing him pick up another quality transfer.
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Post by big5vet on Oct 31, 2014 14:10:54 GMT -5
I'm OK with a solid transfer especially with G's track record in the arena. But I have noticed a drop in the number of recruits coming from the Philadelphia region. Building the core roster with locals is something we've not done as much of recently. I believe we have some advantages over the competition because recruits know La Salle treats its student-athletes well, our graduation rates are solid, and the team members like playing for G and the staff. I'm wondering what others might think about our efforts, success, and the outlook for recruiting and building with local freshmen who stay four years. Below is a list over several years. If dates aren't 100% accurate my apologies in advance. Corrections and additions welcome.
In chronological order by year of initially eligibility. 2006 Rodney Green 2009 Devon White, Parrish Grant, Aaric Murray 2010 Tyreek Duren, Earl Pettis, Matt Lopez 2011 Jerrell Wright, Ramon Galloway 2112 Tyronne Garland 2013 Khalid Lewis 2114 Amur Stukes
Clearly, the trend is away from local recruits. It probably is not intentional, we're just having less success. Again, I think we have advantages and we have had the most success when our core roster was recruited locally.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 15:23:55 GMT -5
If this is true, I suspect his weight contributed greatly. I recall a Villanova player (can't remember who) who lost like 30 lbs or so. He gained a lot of speed and resulted in him getting much, much more playing time. If i wasn't so darn old I'd remember who it was. I believe this is Markus Kennedy you are thinking of who transferred and is now at SMU. Much more skilled than Jermaine, I don't foresee that type of change.
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Post by MisterD on Oct 31, 2014 19:27:59 GMT -5
Is this confirmed or is there a chance it's just a roster input error?
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Post by explorer88 on Oct 31, 2014 19:37:07 GMT -5
Is this confirmed or is there a chance it's just a roster input error? Confirmed.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 3, 2014 8:32:32 GMT -5
I do not know any of the details about Jermaine's departure but this seems a bit of bad news.
Jermaine turned out to be a big man project for sure. But he was now about 3 years in.. ready to become a serviceable big? From the looks of our current big man recruiting we are starting all over again. Now finding ourself early stages of a new big man project?
I hope this is incorrect.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 3, 2014 9:26:09 GMT -5
My take on it is that TOny Washington is outplaying Jermaine and there wasn't a spot for him in the rotation. We are going to be perimeter oriented for a while based on the roster components and there are likely limited minutes for bigs for the foreseeable future. If Tony and Eugene are more viable front-court options, Davis seems to be a victim of the numbers not working in his favor. Plus, he obviously sees the effort to recruit another big and the writing seems to be on the wall in terms of his playing time.
I wish him well, never heard anything bad about him, but also never really heard anything to be excited about.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 9:34:45 GMT -5
It sounded like a lack of motivation and effort. It took 3 years, and he still hadn't lost any weight or gotten in any better of shape. Not entirely surprising he's out. Steve came in as a freshman in bad shape, but his work ethic got him time. Could have been the same story for Jermaine, but he didn't want to work.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 12:58:43 GMT -5
It sounded like a lack of motivation and effort. It took 3 years, and he still hadn't lost any weight or gotten in any better of shape. Not entirely surprising he's out. Steve came in as a freshman in bad shape, but his work ethic got him time. Could have been the same story for Jermaine, but he didn't want to work. Or maybe Tony Washington improved so much that there were no minutes to go around and he saw the handwriting on the wall?
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Post by calsufan on Nov 3, 2014 15:40:08 GMT -5
It sounded like a lack of motivation and effort. It took 3 years, and he still hadn't lost any weight or gotten in any better of shape. Not entirely surprising he's out. Steve came in as a freshman in bad shape, but his work ethic got him time. Could have been the same story for Jermaine, but he didn't want to work. Or maybe Tony Washington improved so much that there were no minutes to go around and he saw the handwriting on the wall? Don't you think Exploring15's explanation is the more plausible explanation? This is Jermaine's 3rd year. He had a year to redshirt and played last year. He's coming into his 3rd season of practicing with the team and he can't be better than a player who was somewhat of a project as well and didn't practice with the team and yet improved by leaps and bounds?
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Post by jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 15:45:44 GMT -5
No, not based on what I heard. G was very high on him this past Summer as he was with Washington. Washington earned more time based on his improvement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 15:49:17 GMT -5
No, not based on what I heard. G was very high on him this past Summer as he was with Washington. Washington earned more time based on his improvement. But Washington wouldn't have earned anything if Jermaine was in better shape, and more skilled than Washington. G also wouldn't want to give up after 3 years, if Jermaine had shown any hope. Weren't we looking at the same Jermaine the last 2 years? same out of shape project as the year before. G would rather stick with Jermaine if it would ever turn into something positive. I think it's apparent he wouldn't produce because he wouldn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 15:50:56 GMT -5
Also, JellyBean, when has G ever said anything bad about someone coming into the season? He's too positive. And would especially be that way when talking about a project like Jermaine. Doesn't want to send Jermaine or the fans a message that he's a lost cause.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 3, 2014 16:05:37 GMT -5
If Davis is stepping down a level to get more and immediate PT, I wouldn't blame him one bit. I don't think anyone here expected him to turn into even a 20 MPG guy in the A-10.
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Post by MisterD on Nov 3, 2014 16:09:08 GMT -5
(That's not meant to come off as a shot, being an A-10 level makes you like top ~1,000 collegiate player in the nation. Being top 1,500 or 2,000 is still damn good.)
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Post by luhoopsfan on Nov 3, 2014 16:47:20 GMT -5
G never says anything negative about players, however, instead of saying something negative he just doesn't say anything at all. If he's positive and feeling good about a player it's legitimate, not just hype. There is a difference. G was basically silent on Davis all summer and early fall, but high on Tony Washington, and sounds legitimately encouraged by his progress and also happily surprised. Remember, Tony couldn't practice with the team so G didn't have a chance to see how he measured up until recently. I think Eugene and Tony W are going to take minutes from Davis and he knows he's being recruited over as well.
Sad to see any player not make it 4 years at La Salle, but it's probably in the best interest of everyone that Jermaine plays elsewhere.
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Post by jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 16:47:56 GMT -5
No, not based on what I heard. G was very high on him this past Summer as he was with Washington. Washington earned more time based on his improvement. But Washington wouldn't have earned anything if Jermaine was in better shape, and more skilled than Washington. G also wouldn't want to give up after 3 years, if Jermaine had shown any hope. Weren't we looking at the same Jermaine the last 2 years? same out of shape project as the year before. G would rather stick with Jermaine if it would ever turn into something positive. I think it's apparent he wouldn't produce because he wouldn't work. I stand by my comment that Washington improved so much that Davis would not be in the rotation. I trust the person who told me what G said this past Summer. I also would not make a statement like you did when you say "..I think it's apparent he wouldn't produce because he wouldn't work." Maybe Davis saw he wasn't skilled enough and that he lost playing time to Washington?
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Post by coqui900 on Nov 3, 2014 17:25:15 GMT -5
Anyone know if Jermaine is headed elsewhere? I forget the guard we had a few years ago who stepped down but stayed in the accounting program. Is JD doing something along those lines?
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Post by MisterD on Nov 3, 2014 17:30:09 GMT -5
Tabby Cunningham?
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Post by lasallescreamer on Nov 3, 2014 19:41:54 GMT -5
This is way too complicated. The fact is is that he simply does not have A-10 talent.Seemed like a good teammate. Hope he does well.
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Post by sweat83 on Nov 4, 2014 11:50:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at Cleveland State. Closer to home, and may be able to get some PT there.
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Post by Fastchuck on Nov 4, 2014 16:54:34 GMT -5
Went back and looked at the summer workout "into the jungle" video and I did not see Davis crawling through the volley ball sand. Has he been on campus this fall? He would be hard to miss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 18:21:16 GMT -5
Went back and looked at the summer workout "into the jungle" video and I did not see Davis crawling through the volley ball sand. Has he been on campus this fall? He would be hard to miss. Yes, he was here during the summer and I believe he's still here finishing up the first semester.
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Post by victoriouslasalle on Nov 5, 2014 8:46:14 GMT -5
Like I said elsewhere I have no idea what is behind this decision to leave. But, hey Jermaine! with Steve and Jerrel graduating next year there could be a lot of big man playing time available starting then and in your last 2 years of eligibility. Hope you haven't lost a sense of the big picture! It could be your time to see alot of the floor particularly as this years recruting is showing big men can be very tough to come by!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 8:49:40 GMT -5
Like I said elsewhere I have no idea what is behind this decision to leave. But, hey Jermaine! with Steve and Jerrel graduating next year there could be a lot of big man playing time available starting then and in your last 2 years of eligibility. Hope you haven't lost a sense of the big picture! It could be your time to see alot of the floor particularly as this years recruting is showing big men can be very tough to come by! there obviously wasn't playing time. Even next year. There is never playing time for someone that doesn't want to work hard. He didn't lose an ounce in 3 years after coming in at 300lbs. I don't think it would "be his time" I don't think he could ever play at even a mid major level at 300lb. and clumsy.
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Post by lasalle69bestever on Nov 5, 2014 16:23:11 GMT -5
Yes. This is what I posted. He is too large and slow. Seemingly unwilling to get in true BB shape (he could rely on sheer height in HS). The main reason why I made reference to the Nova guy. JMHO.
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Post by calidelphia on Nov 5, 2014 17:46:44 GMT -5
Can we take it easy calling the kid out while there is absolutely no info one way or the other? Let's be honest here, for all we know he is still in classes and a dr. (Not G) told him he shouldn't be playing. We have 0 info outside of what we have seen at games or open practices.
I guess I am just not as quick to jump to a hypothetical conclusion and blame it on a 20 year olds choices.
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