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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 3, 2014 15:44:31 GMT -5
La Salle has updated their website with the new roster with some more quotes, bio and head shots. Very interesting to see the Sakhniuk has been listed as on the roster. Starting to believe he is eligible this season seeing how he is on campus and is listed on the active roster. goexplorers.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
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Post by cva43 on Sept 3, 2014 18:50:46 GMT -5
Sakhniuk is not eligible due to playing in a pro league. The NCAA has already ruled on this. He will be eligible next year.
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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 3, 2014 20:58:38 GMT -5
Sakhniuk is not eligible due to playing in a pro league. The NCAA has already ruled on this. He will be eligible next year. If you want to provide some support I appreciate it. I haven't heard anything stating he is ineligible besides whats been posted on this board. Typically ineligible players are made aware to us and aren't listed on an active roster or participating with the team in any activities. A buddy of mine is going to reach out to Josh Verlin and Andrew Albert of Cityofbasketballove since they would be the ones who know.
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Post by explorer88 on Sept 3, 2014 21:15:33 GMT -5
Sakhniuk is not eligible due to playing in a pro league. The NCAA has already ruled on this. He will be eligible next year. If you want to provide some support I appreciate it. I haven't heard anything stating he is ineligible besides whats been posted on this board. Typically ineligible players are made aware to us and aren't listed on an active roster or participating with the team in any activities. A buddy of mine is going to reach out to Josh Verlin and Andrew Albert of Cityofbasketballove since they would be the ones who know. CVA43 knows.
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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 3, 2014 21:37:38 GMT -5
Well that was quick.... jmverlin Do you happen to know if Yevgen Sakhniuk (thats a mouthful) is eligible to play for La Salle this season? @phindependent As far as I know, yup. @andrewjalbert01 can verify @phindependent jmverlin I believe he is eligible, but most likely will not play this year, from what I understand. Clearly he is eligible. Maybe he is redshirting that sparked confusion. Would make sense. It originally made no sense to me seeing how Alex Len was able to play immediately from the same Ukrainian team so why would Yevgen not be eligible? Plus why would La Salle post pictures of him and list him on the roster. Glad to hear he is eligible from a real source whether he plays this year or not. Maybe will get a glimpse of him in the exhibition game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 23:41:05 GMT -5
Well that was quick.... jmverlin Do you happen to know if Yevgen Sakhniuk (thats a mouthful) is eligible to play for La Salle this season? @phindependent As far as I know, yup. @andrewjalbert01 can verify @phindependent jmverlin I believe he is eligible, but most likely will not play this year, from what I understand. Clearly he is eligible. Maybe he is redshirting that sparked confusion. Would make sense. It originally made no sense to me seeing how Alex Len was able to play immediately from the same Ukrainian team so why would Yevgen not be eligible? Plus why would La Salle post pictures of him and list him on the roster. Glad to hear he is eligible from a real source whether he plays this year or not. Maybe will get a glimpse of him in the exhibition game. I think this is going to be around the fourth time I've explained this and you just refuse to believe it. Let me try to simplify it for you. I was told in May and July by someone very close to the program that there was a 99.9% chance he would have to sit this season because of what I will explain further below. Forget Alex Len. You're comparing apples and oranges. Alex Len played on various Ukranian National teams just like Yevgen. But he never moved to the Czech Republic and played in a league against professionals. That is the difference. Because Yevgen played against pros (even though he was not paid), the NCAA will make him sit somewhere close to the same amount of games he played in that Czech league, which is basically a full season. Yevgen is qualified academically. He will be able to practice with the team. But he is not being redshirted. He will not play this year because the NCAA will not let him due to his participation last year in a Euro pro league. I was also told that there is a good chance the NCAA will only grant him 3 years of eligibility. And you might want to apologize to CVA with that backhanded "real source" comment. While I love the job that Josh and Andrew do covering the Explorers, they aren't always privy to info like this. CVA pretty much got this info right from the big horse's mouth.
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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 4, 2014 10:43:35 GMT -5
cva43 I apologize if you were offended with the real source comment. I simply meant some support for your statement. It was not a personal attack on your knowledge on the subject. It was never meant to be a backhanded comment. I just tend to not believe posts on a board without any support are not real sources no matter who it is coming from. Kjmac Pretty hypocritical for you to tell me to give CVA43 an apology for a backhanded comment when you just dished one out yourself by saying "this is going to be around the fourth time I've explained this and you just refuse to believe it. Let me try to simplify it for you." First, don't talk to anyone like they are a child. Secondly, I didn't ask for your opinion and you didn't have to give one. Finally, don't manipulate a comment I made to make it seem it was a personal attack. You were right I was a little mixed up on the teams was confusing the Ukrainian and Czech team. I got some clarification from a friend of mine. I know they played on the national team which doesn't affect his eligibility. It would be the Czech Republic GBA Sparta club he played several games which in any case does not equate to a full NCAA season long. It is a pro league however but that doesn't mean he ineligible for an entire season typical that isn't the case from what my friend suggested. The only issue comes when players are payed but in this case he was not paid. In that case a player could be permanently ineligible. Alex Len is a perfect example. He played on the same U16 and U18 Ukraine national team for couple years which as you stated before doesn't affect eligibility. In 2010-2011 he played for the Ukrainian Superleague which is a pro league for BC Dnipro. The NCAA ruled him eligible but would have to sit ten games. The same friend of mine noted a player on Arizona and Portland few years played on pro leagues and sat out a number of games neither lost eligibility for a full season. If you like to note one be my guest. I am just curious seeing how involved Josh is why would you think he wouldn't know. He is on top of every Philly player why would this player be any different? Wouldn't you think we would know via the media if Yevgen was ineligible typically we hear about NCAA rulings for players unless one hasn't been given yet which could very likely be the case. You may be right that he is ineligible. He played a several games for GBA Sparta Praha. All I stated before that it seems to me he will be somewhat eligible even if its only practice which is something. On the bright side it could be even more than just practicing. www.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/articles/marylands_alex_len_receives_ten_game_suspension_eligible_to_practice/7829971
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 14:21:14 GMT -5
Pretty hypocritical for you to tell me to give CVA43 an apology for a backhanded comment when you just dished one out yourself by saying "this is going to be around the fourth time I've explained this and you just refuse to believe it. Tell me what is not true about that statement. If you haven't realized it by now, on the rare occasions I get some "inside" info, I will post it here and quantify it if the person who told me says it's okay. I wouldn't post it if it was just a random rumor and try to pass it off as fact. As I said in every post about this, I got this info from someone very close to the program, that being the same person who told me that we'd play Virginia in the first round game at Barclay's. On the rare occasions I've gotten this type of info, this person has ALWAYS been right. I didn't ask for your opinion and you didn't have to give one. Finally, don't manipulate a comment I made to make it seem it was a personal attack. What? I have to ask you for permission to give my opinion? You sure don't have any problem spouting off about anything and everything. And I didn't manipulate anything. You're the one who wrote "Glad to hear he is eligible from a real source", in other words, implying that CVA's info isn't reliable. CVA has posted on the various La Salle boards long before you showed up (for at least the last 20+ years) and has always supplied good info because he personally knows a number of people close to the program. Re-read the last line of my post "CVA pretty much got this info right from the big horse's mouth" and maybe you can figure out who his source is on this one, then tell me if you still question it. It would be the Czech Republic GBA Sparta club he played several games which in any case does not equate to a full NCAA season long. It is a pro league however but that doesn't mean he ineligible for an entire season typical that isn't the case from what my friend suggested. Alex Len is a perfect example. He played on the same U16 and U18 Ukraine national team for couple years which as you stated before doesn't affect eligibility. In 2010-2011 he played for the Ukrainian Superleague which is a pro league for BC Dnipro. The NCAA ruled him eligible but would have to sit ten games. The same friend of mine noted a player on Arizona and Portland few years played on pro leagues and sat out a number of games neither lost eligibility for a full season. If you like to note one be my guest.. I take back what I said before. I now agree that Len is a perfect example. I forgot he had to sit ten games at Maryland. The NCAA typically makes these Euro players sit one game for every game they played in Europe at the pro level. The article you linked mentioned how he only played on that pro team for a short period of time, which was probably ten games. Yevgen played an entire season for the Czech pro team. Not sure how many games that was, but it was apparently close enough to 29-30 games for the NCAA to make him sit the entire season. Who knows, maybe it was only 25 games, but G sure isn't going to burn a full year of eligibility for the kid and have him play 5 games near the end of the season, especially with him probably only getting 3 years. I know there were a few Euro kids who sat a whole year but I don't have time to hunt them down. I do know that most of them who wanted to come play in the US decided to stay in Europe and go pro when they were told they would have to sit a year. There was a German guard who verballed to G around 5 years ago who didn't come for that very reason. CVA and Explorer88 can probably confirm that. I am just curious seeing how involved Josh is why would you think he wouldn't know. He is on top of every Philly player why would this player be any different. Wouldn't you think we would know via the media if Yevgen was ineligible typically we hear about NCAA rulings for players unless one hasn't been given yet which could very likely be the case. You may be right that he is ineligible. He played a several games for GBA Sparta Praha. All I stated before that it seems to me he will be somewhat eligible even if its only practice which is something. On the bright side it could be even more than just practicing. ? Believe it or not, there are some things the coaching staff chooses not to tell the media until they're ready to. Yevgen only arrived in the US on August 20th so I doubt if Josh had the access, time, or interest in interviewing him yet. Again, I was told in both May and July by someone very close to the program that he was 99.9% sure that Yevgen would have to sit this season. CVA apparently got confirmation (and his source is impeccable) recently that the NCAA ruled he can't play this year.
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Post by MisterD on Sept 4, 2014 15:25:48 GMT -5
Fellas, everyone is in pain over lasalle(dash)explorers.com but infighting here is only going to make things worse.
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Post by a10champion15 on Sept 4, 2014 15:28:42 GMT -5
Kjmac
I was going to post a full response your comment but there is not point whatsoever to trade pot shots. I just ask you stop stating that my comment to CVA was an attack on his credibility it was not, perhaps a poor choice in words but I never was a grammar whizz. I completely understand what you're saying. I value what people say on this board including you which is one reason why I joined the board and keep up with it. I have only been following the program for a little more than a decade now since I graduated. A lot of my family are alumni so I always been interested which has grown over the years. Everyone has some ties to the program and some are more reliable than others. I can say I get more details on the business side due to the people I know and how I am involved as opposed to the basketball program. I haven't pointed anyone in the wrong direction when it comes to La Salle projects or developments. I know the Virginia thing is a simple pot shot your taking at me but as I said before I heard it from a Rutgers connection and it made sense on paper. I made a mistake just like anyone else. Whatever the case is a hope for the kid success. Lets move on because it isn't a big deal.
One player I think we all are looking forward is Johnnie Shuler. Was hoping to see a quote from G about him but there is none. Hopefully he isn't redshirted but I would think that decision hasn't been made yet.
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Post by luhoopsfan on Sept 5, 2014 13:25:14 GMT -5
G mentioned in an interview this summer that the plan is to redshirt Johnnie but he is making that decisions VERY difficult already. I'm thinking no decision has been made and will not be made until late October.
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Post by lasallescreamer on Sept 5, 2014 19:52:41 GMT -5
Owe it to Z and JW to try and win and a better chance of winning is had when u have best players available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 13:20:26 GMT -5
kjmac and cva are very passionate and knowledgeable fans and have been for long time. I take everything they say to be good. Polling the writers for anecdotal evidence is not always a good idea because remember the NCAA is not always apparent or clean cut on matters of compliance, a lot of which takes place off the public record. Remember writers are often the ones that phone it in sometimes and make mistakes like "Tyreek Garland" or using the wrong stock photos. They are not always as close to the program as kjmac and cva, which I consider to be very credible sources because they don't speculate on what they do not know. It is not good form for those blog writers to speculate on complex international eligibility issues as they both have done.
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