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Post by ltrain38 on Mar 14, 2014 13:29:03 GMT -5
St. Louis seemed vulnerable, we missed an opportunity yesterday. Still, at this point, good luck to the Bonnies.
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Post by durenduren on Mar 14, 2014 13:29:09 GMT -5
Even Lunardi has this as a must win for St. Joseph's of PA. And I'm 100% certain if they do lose, he'll stick with that and not find a way to sneak them into a play-in or something like that. Even if they win, how far off the bubble do they move? I'd imagine not much, and would need to still watch for bid stealers. Read somewhere they're first out as of now?
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Post by calidelphia on Mar 14, 2014 13:54:10 GMT -5
"IF" overbrook wins tomorrow then loses to the Bonnies, VCU loses to richmond and Umass loses to GW, the A10 looks like it could get 6 teams in this year. 2 on the bubble and one conference winner. Amazing.
Right now hawks, and dayton both bubble teams, I think dayton should get in right now with the strong last few weeks of solid play (umass, St louis, richmond) Hawks not in right now (the home loss to us keeping them on the outside looking in), with a win in the next few hours they're in though.
Question is, does a st bonnies conference win mean that st joes or dayton get knocked of the bubble?
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Post by coachd on Mar 14, 2014 14:09:45 GMT -5
Yes, if the Bonnies win out.
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Post by calsufan on Mar 14, 2014 14:10:03 GMT -5
"IF" overbrook wins tomorrow then loses to the Bonnies, VCU loses to richmond and Umass loses to GW, the A10 looks like it could get 6 teams in this year. 2 on the bubble and one conference winner. Amazing. Right now hawks, and dayton both bubble teams, I think dayton should get in right now with the strong last few weeks of solid play (umass, St louis, richmond) Hawks not in right now (the home loss to us keeping them on the outside looking in), with a win in the next few hours they're in though. Question is, does a st bonnies conference win mean that st joes or dayton get knocked of the bubble? I think Dayton might be strong enough to withstand a loss to the Hawks even with the Bonnies winning today. I don't think the Hawks can take another loss regardless.
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 14, 2014 14:34:35 GMT -5
@jonrothstein: Potential bid-stealers to put on your radar: West Virginia, St. John's, La Salle, Maryland. 0-4, with each losing its first game. Nice piece of analysis...
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Post by gjc576 on Mar 14, 2014 14:37:52 GMT -5
@jonrothstein: Potential bid-stealers to put on your radar: West Virginia, St. John's, La Salle, Maryland. 0-4, with each losing its first game. Nice piece of analysis... that is hysterical. and he gets paid to do it. these guys know no more than we do.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 14, 2014 14:53:17 GMT -5
Flipside is "of course those are the potential bid stealers everyone knows that!!!". Longshot prediction by nature.
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 14, 2014 15:20:57 GMT -5
Should have could have been us. If G didn't go on that run last year I would say he wasn't capable of pulling off an upset. Really worried we have seen the high water mark from G. He is a good guy and has done the program proud and is a great guy and representative etc. I am saying strictly basketball wise. I hope I am Wrong but I have watched this team far to long to think otherwise. I hope St B wins it all.
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Post by cpico on Mar 14, 2014 15:40:37 GMT -5
St. Joe's was just given that game today against Dayton. Unbelievable no call on THE biggest play of the game.
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Post by golasalle on Mar 14, 2014 16:02:38 GMT -5
HI there, St. Bonnies just beat St. Louis with a game winner. Wait, what?? But Angry Al (among others) said the Bonnies suck so how could this happen???
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Post by 23won on Mar 14, 2014 17:09:44 GMT -5
St. Joe's was just given that game today against Dayton. Unbelievable no call on THE biggest play of the game. SLU had a pretty bad no call down the stretch too. Refs have been confounding to say the least.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 18:09:18 GMT -5
Question for the angryal society of trolls. Did St Louis have a terrible off-season??
Who thinks Bona can steal a bid now?
Has our loss yesterday been redeemed somewhat?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 18:11:06 GMT -5
Dayton has to sweat the next 3 nights out! St Joes is a lock now.
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Post by durenduren on Mar 14, 2014 19:53:20 GMT -5
Dayton has to sweat the next 3 nights out! St Joes is a lock now. I hope they get placed in the west bracket, have to travel to Spokane, Washington and promptly get blown out. But only because I'm butthurt that everyone told me it was supposed to be our year.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 14, 2014 21:28:33 GMT -5
I think Dayton is in, as long as not too many bids get stolen. They were inaalightly better position heading in to today. Probably wouldn't be great for them in the Bonnie's won though.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 14, 2014 22:17:49 GMT -5
I had no idea UMass hasn't been in the tournament since 1998. I thought they'd made it 3 or 4 times since I'd been following the A-10 since 2004. I guess they were good a bunch of times, but never quite got there.
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Post by Gnocchi on Mar 15, 2014 0:14:27 GMT -5
St. Joe's was just given that game today against Dayton. Unbelievable no call on THE biggest play of the game. SLU had a pretty bad no call down the stretch too. Refs have been confounding to say the least. Good chance that 2 horrendous non-calls changed the outcomes of both the Bonnies and Overbrook games. With the game tied, Jett drove the lane and got grabbed on the wrist from behind by Kloof, lost the ball and fell to the floor, leaving a 5 on 4 the other way for Wright to drain a 3. In the Overbrook game, Galloway's pushoff non-call was literally the worst I've ever seen. Refs were a complete farce and an embarrassment to the A-10. The dumbest cliche in basketball is that in the endgame refs should stay out of it and "let the players decide the game," as if ridiculous non-calls don't decide games. Ask SLU and Dayton about that. Stan Van Gundy, as usual, was right on top of the Overbrook non-call fiasco but in the post-game "analysis" Donnie Marshall came off as a complete lightweight by saying that the non-call didn't decide the game because Dayton had plenty of chances to make plays earlier in the game. NPOA...
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Post by golasalle on Mar 15, 2014 9:05:25 GMT -5
SLU had a pretty bad no call down the stretch too. Refs have been confounding to say the least. Good chance that 2 horrendous non-calls changed the outcomes of both the Bonnies and Overbrook games. With the game tied, Jett drove the lane and got grabbed on the wrist from behind by Kloof, lost the ball and fell to the floor, leaving a 5 on 4 the other way for Wright to drain a 3. In the Overbrook game, Galloway's pushoff non-call was literally the worst I've ever seen. Refs were a complete farce and an embarrassment to the A-10. The dumbest cliche in basketball is that in the endgame refs should stay out of it and "let the players decide the game," as if ridiculous non-calls don't decide games. Ask SLU and Dayton about that. Stan Van Gundy, as usual, was right on top of the Overbrook non-call fiasco but in the post-game "analysis" Donnie Marshall came off as a complete lightweight by saying that the non-call didn't decide the game because Dayton had plenty of chances to make plays earlier in the game. NPOA... Also, watching the evening games the in-studio analysts consistently used terms like "horrendous" or "ridiculous" about the non-call at the end of the St. Joe (PA)game. Martelli must have sold what is left of his soul for that one...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 9:22:15 GMT -5
I had no idea UMass hasn't been in the tournament since 1998. I thought they'd made it 3 or 4 times since I'd been following the A-10 since 2004. I guess they were good a bunch of times, but never quite got there. Yes, it seems like a way too long time for that program. Once in that span, they tied with Xavier one time for the regular season title, and used it to launch an NIT run. They usually fall flat in the conference tourney, we even knocked them out in 2005 Cincy. They also made the NIT's final four recently. But remember, the conf tourney was owned by Temple/Xavier for many years, and we were only a two/three bid conference most of those years.
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 16, 2014 12:13:05 GMT -5
St Joes getting the national publicity that LaSalle needs. I liked the opening of the game with Spike Lee and all the St Joes players. We really missed out on being a national household name. Needed our name in every bracket pool across America. People would say oh yeah I remember them.
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Post by blueandgold on Mar 16, 2014 14:08:21 GMT -5
Sick watching St Joes about to wrap up the A-10 title..
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 16, 2014 14:17:42 GMT -5
I still don't think they should get in. Just leave 'em out anyway.
Seriously though, you have to take your hat off to them. They've had a phenomenal year so far. This idea that suddenly Phil Martelli didn't know what he's doing was really off base.
I won't lie and say I'll be rooting for them to do well in the NCAA's, but to take anything away from them at this point is just delusional sour grapes.
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Post by thehawkisdead on Mar 16, 2014 14:17:55 GMT -5
Them winning makes our tournament futility even more frustrating. One trip to the semis, 12 years ago, is the best we've ever done. We've shit our pants so often - why? The loss to Fordham in 2006 is probably still the worst loss I've endured as an Explorer fan, and that's saying a lot.
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Post by ltrain38 on Mar 16, 2014 14:23:10 GMT -5
I still don't think they should get in. Just leave 'em out anyway. Seriously though, you have to take your hat off to them. They've had a phenomenal year so far. This idea that suddenly Phil Martelli didn't know what he's doing was really off base. I won't lie and say I'll be rooting for them to do well in the NCAA's, but to take anything away from them at this point is just delusional sour grapes. Obviously I'd much rather it was us, and expected in November that it would be. But other than Villanova, I get behind Philly teams in the tournament. I know you're not from the area, so maybe that's the difference. I also really want A10 teams to shove it in the face of everyone questioning our number of bids, just like we did last year.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 16, 2014 14:25:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that to me is an item for discussion that I bought up even before the year- they never play well in the Atlantic 10 Tournament. In the 10 years of G- 2 wins at the actual tournament site. 2005 over UMass in the opening round (big upset) and then 2008 over Duquesne in the first round in AC. They won a few games on Campus Sites when the A-10 went to that format the last few years in AC (I remember a big win over Bonaventure in I think 2011 in like Double OT that was both a brutal collapse, and a crazy comeback) and then I think they beat Richmond in 2012.
Now true, some of those years, they just weren't any good, but years they get Byes, years they are a higher seed, nothing. Can't get anything going. You can improve your lot in terms of postseason so much in these tournaments, and we never win, or ever seem to play particularly well. I think 2009 when they lost to SLU in Overtime in the 8-9 games was the last time I remember thinking they played good ball, just ran into a better team (If I remember correctly, that year there was like a 5 way tie for 3rd, and we finished last in the tiebreaker and ended up 8th, or something along those lines).
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 16, 2014 14:25:56 GMT -5
Congratulations to St Joes. I have to admit I rooted for St Joes. When it came down to it Martelli and his team gutted out that win. I went for Big 5 over VCU. Martelli was on the hot seat and u saw the emotion when they won it. Also so glad Duke lost. Glad to see Clark Kellogg saying TEAMS earn bids not conferences. He said VCU beat Viginia in Virginia. He said ACC non conference schedule is weak. Now it's time for LaSalle to step up next year. No excuses.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 16, 2014 14:29:32 GMT -5
I still don't think they should get in. Just leave 'em out anyway. Seriously though, you have to take your hat off to them. They've had a phenomenal year so far. This idea that suddenly Phil Martelli didn't know what he's doing was really off base. I won't lie and say I'll be rooting for them to do well in the NCAA's, but to take anything away from them at this point is just delusional sour grapes. Obviously I'd much rather it was us, and expected in November that it would be. But other than Villanova, I get behind Philly teams in the tournament. I know you're not from the area, so maybe that's the difference. I also really want A10 teams to shove it in the face of everyone questioning our number of bids, just like we did last year. I think it's a combination of things- not being from the area like you said (although I'll root for Villanova and Penn and Drexel) is certainly a factor, and then also growing up totally on pro sports where you didn't root for your division rivals in the playoffs are big factors. I still have to remind myself to root for the other A-10 teams in non-conference games and tournament play, it's just counter to the instincts I developed growing up. But with Temple and St. Joe's, I just can't. I don't want to see them do well, but at least I'm honest about it.
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Post by lwc4591 on Mar 16, 2014 14:33:27 GMT -5
Five teams get in tourny I expect only 5 or 6 wins between them. Unlike other's I am not very impressed with A10. Last season I believe A10 ended up with what 7 or 8 wins in tourny. I hope they win 8-9 games but I don't see it happening.
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Post by Kovy on Mar 16, 2014 14:33:41 GMT -5
Give Joe's credit, after we beat them they were on the outside looking in. They beat Dayton three times and VCU twice this season and now they get to watch the selection show with ease later today. Also flipping back and forth between this game and the Duke/Virginia game the atmosphere was a lot better at Barclays, not even close.
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