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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 9, 2014 17:20:29 GMT -5
So, now that the regular season is over, (by the way, does anyone know how St. Joe's did today?) we have the full field for the A-10 tournament. NO bracket has been released yet, but I will link it once it officially comes out.
Here's what I got:
Wednesday night, George Mason (12) will play Fordham (13).
Thursday:
La Salle (8) v. St. BOnaventure (9), Noon. Winner plays St. Louis (1) on Friday at Noon.
Dayton (5) plays the winner of Mason-Fordham at 2:30 Winner plays St. Joe's (4) Friday at 2:30
Richmond (7) plays Duquesne (11) at 6:30. Winner plays VCU (2) on Friday at 6:30
UMass (6) plays URI (11) at 9:00. Winner plays George Washington (3) on Friday at 9:00
If I'm in fact right on that, man things are shaping up pretty nicely for VCU on their side of the bracket.
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Post by vasalos on Mar 10, 2014 6:03:31 GMT -5
People are already asking so I'll offer my thoughts on post season chances. Take it as you wish. I think La Salle has to win two games to have a chance at a 7/8 NIT seeding. Win one game and it will be incredibly close. La Salle has the headwind of numerous regular season champs going down in traditionally single bid conferences which is crowding the NIT bracket.
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 10, 2014 6:19:59 GMT -5
Amazing what one win can do to everybody's attitude. My son just asked me if we can go on Thursday if we beat St B. Anyone else planning on going? I have never been to an A 10 tourny game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 8:42:00 GMT -5
Amazing what one win can do to everybody's attitude. My son just asked me if we can go on Thursday if we beat St B. Anyone else planning on going? I have never been to an A 10 tourny game. The Bonnies are on Thurs and the St Louis game is Friday. Tournament is five days now instead of the traditional four. |
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Post by angryal on Mar 10, 2014 8:59:08 GMT -5
Even if La Salle beats St. Bonaventure, their "reward" is a game with St. Louis the next day. That's an awful lot to ask of a team that's been as wildly inconsistent as La Salle.
And please, NO invitation to the Not Invited Tournament. UGH!
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 9:08:07 GMT -5
Pretty sure we've got this in the bag.
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 9:09:54 GMT -5
With last year's close game luck (VCU, St. Louis, Mason), we're sitting 18-19 wins sweating out a 2nd round "must win", huh?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 9:14:21 GMT -5
People are already asking so I'll offer my thoughts on post season chances. Take it as you wish. I think La Salle has to win two games to have a chance at a 7/8 NIT seeding. Win one game and it will be incredibly close. La Salle has the headwind of numerous regular season champs going down in traditionally single bid conferences which is crowding the NIT bracket. So far, six out of seven regular season champions of one bid leagues have lost in their conference tournaments and have stolen NIT bids (Green Bay, Belmont, Vermont, Davidson, Florida Gulf Coast, and High Point). Wichita State was the only one to win their conference tournament. Not good news for La Salle. That leaves 13 more one bid leagues that haven't crowned a conference tournament champion yet. One (the MAAC) won't matter as either Iona or Manhattan are already a NIT lock should they lose in the final tonight. It looks like La Salle will need at least two wins in Brooklyn to have a shot at the NIT. Here's hoping they can do that and maybe even some more. There is not one unbeatable team in the field. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 10, 2014 9:19:15 GMT -5
Yeah I thought we needed 3 wins before the Mason game. Got 1 so far. Will need to beat Bonnie's first, which is far from a given. Team is coming off probably their worst loss and best win of the season this last week, so who knows.
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 10, 2014 9:21:04 GMT -5
Even if La Salle beats St. Bonaventure, their "reward" is a game with St. Louis the next day. That's an awful lot to ask of a team that's been as wildly inconsistent as La Salle.
And please, NO invitation to the Not Invited Tournament. UGH! You really wouldn't want to play in the NIT if we got the call? Why? That's a pansy maneuver when Duke or Kentucky do it, let alone us. |
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Post by golasalle on Mar 10, 2014 9:36:22 GMT -5
Even if La Salle beats St. Bonaventure, their "reward" is a game with St. Louis the next day. That's an awful lot to ask of a team that's been as wildly inconsistent as La Salle.
And please, NO invitation to the Not Invited Tournament. UGH! You really wouldn't want to play in the NIT if we got the call? Why? That's a pansy maneuver when Duke or Kentucky do it, let alone us. He just wants something to bitch about. The bonus would be that if we do get an NIT invite we won't have to hear from him because he obviously wouldn't care. |
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Post by calidelphia on Mar 10, 2014 10:39:57 GMT -5
With last year's close game luck (VCU, St. Louis, Mason), we're sitting 18-19 wins sweating out a 2nd round "must win", huh? add manhattan into that close game luck category and we are looking at 19 wins today. Get to 20 and i think we would be in considering the SOS of #34 this year. Get to 2 wins and we would be dancing for sure. Thats all hypothetical and does no one any good to speculate on though. Just sayin.. |
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 10:42:26 GMT -5
Does me a lot of good because for a second I pretend we're making the tourney.
(That said, I'll still keep Sunday open just in case. Easy train ride into Brooklyn if need be.)
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Post by lasalle89 on Mar 10, 2014 11:37:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I can only go this Thurs. Anyone going? Btw what time is our game this Thurs against St B?
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Post by a10champion15 on Mar 10, 2014 11:45:23 GMT -5
It looks like La Salle will need at least two wins in Brooklyn to have a shot at the NIT. Here's hoping they can do that and maybe even some more. There is not one unbeatable team in the field. High point may not get a call due to the conference, FGCU didn't win that conference mercer did, they aren't getting an NIT invite. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:05:23 GMT -5
It looks like La Salle will need at least two wins in Brooklyn to have a shot at the NIT. Here's hoping they can do that and maybe even some more. There is not one unbeatable team in the field. High point may not get a call due to the conference, FGCU didn't win that conference mercer did, they aren't getting an NIT invite. High Point and FCGU won the regular season titles for their conferences. Any team that wins their regular season conference title and loses in their conference tournament automatically gets a NIT bid. That rule was instituted by the NCAA/NIT starting with the 2004-5 season, which is a big reason Steve Smith's La Salle team did not make the NIT. Out of the seven conference tournaments that have been played already, six of them had someone other than the regular season champion win them, thus six NIT bids have been eaten up by those regular season champs, which is bad news for La Salle. This is nothing new. It's the ninth year since this has been in place. |
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 14:21:58 GMT -5
How big is the boat that I'm in: Would obviously accept an NIT bid if offered but won't really care if we get passed over? Last year spoiled me. Can't eat Philadelphia pizza once you've had NY pizza or some other tortured analogy.
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Post by fvp47 on Mar 10, 2014 14:43:44 GMT -5
I think your boat is small. Would gladly accept a NIT bid. That would be three years in a row going post season. If the only thing that satisfies you is to go to the NCAA every year, which would be terribly nice, I am afraid you will be disappointed alot.
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Post by golasalle on Mar 10, 2014 14:48:57 GMT -5
How big is the boat that I'm in: Would obviously accept an NIT bid if offered but won't really care if we get passed over? Last year spoiled me. Can't eat Philadelphia pizza once you've had NY pizza or some other tortured analogy. I would care if we got passed over but not be devastated. I would hate for this group of seniors who got the program back to the promised land go out with a fizzle. NIT is a consolation but I would like to see them get to play some more. By the way, there is some damn good Philly pie so you need to come up with a better analogy!  |
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 14:55:35 GMT -5
I think your boat is small. Would gladly accept a NIT bid. That would be three years in a row going post season. If the only thing that satisfies you is to go to the NCAA every year, which would be terribly nice, I am afraid you will be disappointed alot. Its kind of the opposite. I'm still so satisfied over last year that I don't think the NIT would get movement either way. I mean, I'd watch and a run would be cool, but if they pass us over, I'm not going to show much outrage. |
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Post by fvp47 on Mar 10, 2014 15:02:11 GMT -5
The point about going or not going to a post season tourney is not about your outrage or mine. It is however about how potential recruits and alum (who donate) see the program. Continued success breeds continued success.
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Post by mikesmd77 on Mar 10, 2014 15:15:37 GMT -5
I would STILL be excited for a potential NIT run. Being NIT Champions would add a great notch to an already outstanding career for guys like Duren and Mills. That said, need to win two to get in. And if we win two - well then, we are just two more from the NCAAs..
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Post by durenduren on Mar 10, 2014 15:27:30 GMT -5
The point about going or not going to a post season tourney is not about your outrage or mine. It is however about how potential recruits and alum (who donate) see the program. Continued success breeds continued success. This will end up being my biggest take-away a few months from now. It'd be nice to get those returning some post-season experience. This team long shed it's "special" potential, but it's about setting the stage in some capacity for future years. |
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Post by a10champion15 on Mar 10, 2014 15:52:05 GMT -5
High point may not get a call due to the conference, FGCU didn't win that conference mercer did, they aren't getting an NIT invite. High Point and FCGU won the regular season titles for their conferences. Any team that wins their regular season conference title and loses in their conference tournament automatically gets a NIT bid. That rule was instituted by the NCAA/NIT starting with the 2004-5 season, which is a big reason Steve Smith's La Salle team did not make the NIT. Out of the seven conference tournaments that have been played already, six of them had someone other than the regular season champion win them, thus six NIT bids have been eaten up by those regular season champs, which is bad news for La Salle. This is nothing new. It's the ninth year since this has been in place. My fault I actually thought Mercer won the conference title. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 10, 2014 15:54:08 GMT -5
I think your boat is small. Would gladly accept a NIT bid. That would be three years in a row going post season. If the only thing that satisfies you is to go to the NCAA every year, which would be terribly nice, I am afraid you will be disappointed alot. Its kind of the opposite. I'm still so satisfied over last year that I don't think the NIT would get movement either way. I mean, I'd watch and a run would be cool, but if they pass us over, I'm not going to show much outrage. I'm in your boat if you change NIT to CBI. If it's the NIT, I'd be, excited. The NCAA's in my opinion went out the door probably in early January when they lost to Miami (barring 4 wins in Brooklyn, which was always going to be on the table). So yeah had you told me in October we'd be hoping to sneak into the NIT, I'd be less than thrilled. But this is me now, after seeing the season unfold. An NIT bid would be great. The season is going to be fairly disappointing anyway, although I think an NIT trip to the Garden would probably tip it back into the positive side of the ledger. But making a 7 seed in the NIT and even losing in the 1st round would be something to salvage, and would've been the best season we had in 15 years up until 2 years ago. So yeah, I'd love to see it happen. But I don't think it's really even close right now. I think a win over St. Bonnie's would put them as the edge of the "out" periphery, and a win over SLU would probably put them close. So I can't really worry about it too much until I see what they do Thursday. |
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Post by MisterD on Mar 10, 2014 15:54:35 GMT -5
The point about going or not going to a post season tourney is not about your outrage or mine. It is however about how potential recruits and alum (who donate) see the program. Continued success breeds continued success. I guess. Maybe I'm undervaluing what the NIT means to ... everyone? I would STILL be excited for a potential NIT run. Being NIT Champions would add a great notch to an already outstanding career for guys like Duren and Mills. That said, need to win two to get in. And if we win two - well then, we are just two more from the NCAAs.. This point I like. If Duren wants to go, I want him to go. |
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Post by theneumann64 on Mar 10, 2014 15:55:29 GMT -5
Also, they only way I would feel like "OK, they DEFINITELY should be in now" would be if they won 3 games, got to the Final and lost. So I really won't feel any "outrage" unless they get that far and don't get in.
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Post by coachd on Mar 11, 2014 8:13:16 GMT -5
Piece of cake. We win 4 in 4 all the way to the Final 4. Bonnies on a neutral court should be a W if G plays the correct defense. We know we can beat a Saint Louis team that has hobbled to Brooklyn by losing 3 of 4. After that the last two games against Joe's or Dayton and then it is time to "shock-a-Smart" and VCU in the championship game on CBS. It can be done but will require total focus from the coaching staff and players. Defense must be priority as it is difficult to win if you are giving up 75 points.
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Post by coachd on Mar 11, 2014 8:18:02 GMT -5
We go as far as Duren and Wright take us with Mills and Zack and Garland providing the support.
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Post by a10champion15 on Mar 11, 2014 8:29:55 GMT -5
Nothing would make me happier if Dayton won against St Joes and we won the conference tourney knocking St Joes out of the NCAA tournament. I probably pee myself for a week.
However being more realistic I feel their is only one real scenario maybe 2 to win. Obviously beat the Bonnies and SLU. These games are going to be so difficult but coachd is right about something they arent the same team right now that won 19 in a row. I don't think we can beat St Joes again, however I think we can beat Dayton. If we play good D we can shut Dayton down and they are awful defensively. Also we have an advantage inside. Then two scenarios VCU gets upset by someone and doesn't make it to the finals. I am not sure who I rather play though GW, UMass maybe Richmond. We always struggle with UMass and yes we beat GW but damn are they good. Richmond most likely won't make it but hey this scenario for us is beyond unlikely. I think VCU will make it the championship and if we made it, that game would be very difficult after playing three games in three days.
Damn I am getting way to ahead of myself. Just want this week to be over so i can stop thinking about it.
KEEP THE FAITH!
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